Didn't Ayan Have Alternatives to Ripping Maya's Sleeves?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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In all this soup of accusations, counter-allegations, evidence and ruthless mockery, there's one thing that we should all be pondering upon:
Ayan didn't intend to rape Maya, true (I know, I know; let's all just assume that his intentions were clean for arguments' sake).

Maya, as described by Saanjh in her audio-visual flashback, cleverly put the keys in her clothes to stop Ayan from reaching them. And Ayan lunged for the keys; deliberately (Yes, DELIBERATELY) ripping apart Maya's clothes in the process. He did it not once, not twice, but three times.

The above mentioned bit of information brings me to the hot-button issue:

"Was Ayan indeed justified in ripping off Maya's clothes to look for the keys?"

In my opinion, NO. Because you DO NOT go around stripping women of their bits of clothing unless you have absolutely no alternative to it.



I'd raised this point in another thread yesterday, and my comments received counters in the form of:

'Even Maya had alternatives to hide the keys somewhere else or call the cops? Why did she not do so?'

Yes, a very pertinent question indeed. Maya could've done a bunch of things instead of just slipping it into her blouse in front of Ayan. But maybe she did the hiding bit on an impulse (because she did not expect Ayan to come, did not expect him to barge in or whatever). There could be a gazillion reasons for Maya not hiding the keys earlier. But heck, that's not the point.


The point is, we-- all of us here (including some Maya fans) agree that Maya is a person who's in fact criminally insane. She committed a host of crimes; the most prominent ones being unlawful sedation and confinement. What she did was MOST DEFINITELY criminal, we get that. And if she's framing Ayan for rape, she deserves to be behind bars for at least three years.

Do we agree till this point?

Yep, we do. Every single one of us.

Now, let's look at Ayan. ONLY Ayan. Was he, in HIS PLACE, justified to rip Maya's clothes deliberately? Did he not have any other alternative to it?

While answering the question, let's keep two very important points in mind:

1. Maya's clothes DID NOT tear in a scuffle; so answers like, 'What if a female commits a crime and I tear her clothes in an attempt to fight her' would be automatically rendered invalid. Ayan tore them DELIBERATELY (unless proved otherwise)

2. Ayan had a range of other alternatives to tearing Maya's clothes. It was not as if tearing Maya's clothes to get the keys, was the ONLY OPTION.


Again, as a reminder, don't use Maya to justify Ayan's actions, because it's already been said that she's committed crimes and deserves punishment. The question is SOLELY on Ayan's actions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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"Was Ayan indeed justified in ripping off Maya's clothes to look for the keys?"

if he did that he deserves to be punished for it.But we dont know what is the truth.What we are shown until now is mayas sach but what is real truth we dont know yet.I believe cctv footage will play an important role in solving this case or it might be ayaan shouting in the middle of court drama that he is guilty of this crime which will shock everybody.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Idk hw cm so many co-incidence happened one after another
If maya didnt expect Ayaan to come there why d heck she locked Arjun in room????
Second how and Why samay appears wd police who informed him about a crimescene created in Maya's house is he too stalking her wd camera

Why no one asking How come samay landed up there all of a sudden??

coming to Ayaan i dnt back up him if he torn her clothes for whtever rsn it is
bt if its she who torn it and name it after him then girl pls time nikal ke marr jao
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Posted: 8 years ago
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If only Ayaan had the skill levels of Saanjh, he wouldn't have invited himself into such a terrible position!

Saanjh knows exactly how to needle Maya for a desired response!

Poor Ayaan got shock of his life, when Maya revealed her 'naked truths' !

Why so much of trouble, if only you know the correct strategy, in hindsight, he must be ruing now!

Like his brother, he is also a dumbo & did not know how to get keys from Maya & now suffering for rush of blood!

In this show, only girls are really smart, they exactly know what will work with whom!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yeah well I made a similar post so just going to copy paste it


Ayaan is completely innocent and he did not do anything.

As Saanjh put it

"He was only searching for the keys inside Maya's clothes by tearing them apart."
That is right, it is completely acceptable to tear someone's clothes and search through her body if you want something LOL LOL LOL
That is not at all sexual assault. Imagine girls a boy comes tears your clothes and grabs what he needs in those tatters, it is acceptable right!!

"Maya kicked him and he fell over her, hence the compromising position "
Maya kicked the poor boy, so he ended on top of her. He could not get up at all, although it was he who was holding Maya's hands vigorously in that position, Maya was the one who did not let him get up, like W*F!!

"Anyone in his place would have done the same, that is tore every inch of her dress till nude and take the key from now non existent blouse as now it is in bits n pieces"
This one was masterpiece Clap Clap LOL
So you all have learned your lesson right, if you deny giving a man what he is asking for, he has every right to tear your dress apart, and that of course is not under the pretext of sexual abuse, at most physical assault LOL so even if he tears your dress to shreds don't you dare think it is sexual assault and in no manner it is attempt to rape, so what if he was going to take the keys from your blouse and garments!!

Yes ladies and gentlemen, our Bhola bhala Ayaan munna is innocent, sab Maya ki chaal hai.
It was absolutely necessary for him to get into a dangal with her to get the keys out of her blouse himself, even if the door could have been broken in half the strength he used in this kushti match!!
He could absolutely not break that door before saying "Main tumhari aisi haalat karunga ki aaankh utha ke bhi nahi dekh paogi!!!" And then tear her dress to get the key from inside her garments, i repeat INSIDE HER GARMENTS!

And Saanjh se mahaan aur sachcha toh koi hai hi nahi isiliye woh doosron ko galat aur sahi par lecture Karti hai!
How dare Maya say that she is pregnant when she is not.
Although Saanjh just now told the media that she and Arjun are just good friends hiding her unrequited love and the Holi dance and the almost kiss sequence!!
But that really doesn't matter coz Saanjh herself is sachchai ki devi, what if she asked the eyewitness not to come in the court so that she can degrade Maya.

All this is absolutely fair, afterall ek Ayaan bhola aur ek yeh Saanjh bholi, both of them can do absolutely no WRONG!

So Ayaan is innocent and Saanjh is pure soul, Mahaan devi ka swaroop
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I made a point in satire that Ayaan need not have resorted to go physical with Maya for meeting his objective, if only he knew that Maya would oblige him when she got frustrated to brink!
Like she did in court to surprise everyone!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ayan should be punished for manhandling maya n trespassing in her property.
When i saw the episode it fits the story of saanjh. Ayan clearly did not have interest to rape maya.

At the door when maya says " i will die but not allow u to take u ur brother"
He says i will punish you with something worse than death than pushes her away ( he doesn't drag her to rape her)

When samay intervened he says chod do muje , ussne mere bhai ko bandh kia hai. His outstretched hands i guess point at keys

See this pic first key is there n than there is no key



NOW if ayan wanted to rip maya 's clothes to get key still he is wrong n should be punished for abuse n maya for instigation n staging rape.


But are we sure ayan ripped cloths on purpose? It was not by accident during struggle? May be maya planned to trap ayan in physical assault but when her sleeves were torn it struck in her head i can charge him for attempt to rape ? More effective way to separate arjun from ayan!

Didnot maya say lies so confidently in court about fake pregnancy?
We saw she lied to media n than forcing arjun to have relationship. But in court she put blame on faulty kit.

Than she tells about fake abortion to taunt saanjh n divert her attention but again fails. If saanjh had more solid evidence than her stripping drama would have failed too n maya was already triggered to show beyhadh side. She would have tried her best to make her day dream a reality.



This are screen shot of how sleeve were torn in sequence






First when he corners maya near table she runs he tries to stop her with his left hand . He cannot grip her hand sleeve is torn accidently .






2nd tym too he tries to stop maya but sleeve is torn.


Another screen shot were it clear ayan move maya oneside to search key. He searching key fallen on ground



ayan is not holding maya 'shand in compromising position he is pushing ground to get up

Now after watching this

I know saanjh is not making up any story n her story matches the circumstances n tymline of event.


Ayan did not intend to sexually abuse maya.


The way he handled maya to get key was wrong when there is legal way to release his brother. So he can be punished for this.


We are not certain that ayan planned to get keys by stripping maya or just scarring her. Cause he was shocked n denied rightthere when maya accused him infront of samay.


We are also not confident that ayan has torn cloths on purpose or accident. To me it look accidently.


But we are almost certain that maya staged this incident.

Edited by SaurabhKiRadha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Bechara Ayaan had no other way.
Didn't you hear what Saanjh had said in court? "Ek taraf uska Bhai bandha hua kamre main lock tha aur dusri taraf yeh paagal aurat, bechara Ayaan kya karta? Uski jagah koi bhi hota toh yahi karta jo Ayaan ne kiya"

So according to Saanjh devi Ripping clothes to get Keys is OK. Mad Maya is making false allegations. And yes tearing Maya's leggings was also done to get the Keys. Bechara Ayaan might have thought that those keys had slipped on Maya's leggings.


And yes those dialogues spoken by Ayaan were all right! Because it definitely hinted on him wanting the keys. He only said that he will give Maya a punishment worst then death. He only said that he will leave Maya in such a state that she won't be able to face the world. See its so clear that Ayaan only wanted the Keys from Maya.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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That 'punishment worse than death' dialogue is going to come back and bite him in the ass real hard.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Even if the makers prove otherwise how can they reverse the words that Ayaan has uttered. Even that is a threat and is a crime. So In any angle, Ayaan's act cannot be justified.

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