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shruthiravi thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska and Maya burns help. So does that mean both Saanjh and Maya are needed to save duffer. Both in their positions. Because Saanjh got Arjun ko bacha and Maya got Help.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi, too much variability. Too little initial data
- Dusky must save Duffer from Maya. Dusky will save Duffer from Maya now. But to save Duffer from Maya, Maya herself can only. Or burn Duffer or save
- Dusky must save Duffer from Samay. Maybe it's in the future. Maya must save Duffer from Samay. Only Maya can deal with Samay when she finds out the truth. But here, and Maya too is in the position of the one who needs to be rescued
- VM asks for help. Dusky will save Duffer. But the help will be needed VM. Maya will be able to save. But Maya burned the aid or Maya will save
- VM asks Dusky to save Duffer. Maybe the time will come when VM will ask Maya to save Duffer. Maya refuses, burns?

Or alternatively, VM asks Dusky to save Duffer. Dusky will save Duffer. But saved Duffer after the salvation will burn

Or Maya will not be there. Or Maya will watch this from the outside

Or after Dusky has saved everyone. All the saved will burn. Or Maya burn everyone

The variation is too great
One thing is certain - Duffer will never going save anyone. Duffer will never save anyone. Duffer is absolutely pathologically catastrophically useless😆😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The variation is too great
One thing is certain - Duffer will never going save anyone. Duffer will never save anyone. Duffer is absolutely pathologically catastrophically useless😆😆😆

👏 Thank DEAR 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
05/05/17
The variable loses patience. The equation stands at the dead point

VM starts using the brain. Wow. And VM acts again and again and again. "I'm so genuine, I'm so honest, I'm frank, I don't know how to pretend, if I could, then I would pretend to be a good Saas, and all loves, but I can't"
Yes, so that the son, whose accept and love is supposedly sought and thirsted for 15 years, was happy that there was peace and quiet in the house, in son's life, the VM could not behave at least just humanly, and this to the person who brought this son to her feet
But now, when she need to pretend to destroy the marriage of this son, in order to destroy the one that brought this son to her feet, so now it's easy. Straight rewards for pretending to work already
How be a human - so could not. How to be a hypocrite and a traitor to her own son as well - so very much can

Ganesha ... Ganesha ... Well, you entraps Maya baby... Deceives Maya baby...
"In good times, everyone supports you, in bad times no one ..."
"How is your pain?" What's wrong with whiner Duffer, what hurt? Head? Stomach? "My pain will pass, if someone will recover" - it's you who are sick, whiner Duffer!

Samay loses control. Samaya is losing patience. But agrees to be engaged with Dusky

Someone, placate hands whiner Duffer! Really want to break this hands for a long time! And repeatedly!
"Who will not let your love lose?" Who? What? Why? Where? What difference does it make to you? You just yesterday shouted "Give me a divorce! Let me go! Die!" So go ahead, whiner Duffer! Look behind the curtain, and grab your divorce, riksha, train, freedom, and roll on all four sides of the world! Get lost in hell!

"Love is fire. If you love, you will cope"
Everything is very simple. Everything is very easy

Maya, you know that answer. You know the main problem. He just doesn't love. He isn't able to love
Then why so much struggle? You even know when you had to surrender and send everything to the devil. But so much time you struggled with these windmills. You've been tired for a long time. But it's not in your nature to give up. And even now, the last battle must be epic, even if it is doomed long before it began. To die, so with music, yes, Maya baby?

The family of Mathur today excelled again. Adequacy has left this family for a long time. "Where I, there will always need you, Duffer" - who told fairy-tales there that Dusky let Duffer go? What is moving forward? A very selfish little girl who never lost anything in her life, who never knew a refusal, wants a damn toy! Dumn toy, which dare be not her!

Prekap and Jhanvi. Oh, mother of the millenium burn!

Samay, be careful! I need a game! Shah and Mate to whiner Duffer! No chance! Not the penultimate! Neither the last! None! Don't you dare, this whiner Duffer is given a chance, only due to the fact that his possessiveness will wake up! We don't need a little boy to remember that a toy can be taken away!

She must disappear imperceptibly. Other hands should not be visible. You are a variable, Samay, not an element, don't forget about it!
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Posted: 8 years ago
As usual good post...agree with VM and Mathur part but I jux don't want any1 to be with Maya, again a tussle,again a struggle,let her be alone for sometime,let her fight all alone and raise all alone..I badly want Jhanvi to be in wheel chair or back stab maya..Maya is becoming over confident,she need a fall and an abrupt end to back to reality...I want to see that Maya who is possessiong lot of goodness in her..but from sday episoide I ve understood 3rd phase is all about revenge or beyhadh nafrat of Maya...sday lot of dialogues,most of the dialogues contradicts..nothing was able to be inferred ..
Duffer way back will never be easy,it's Maya revenge..
I ve seriously started wondering what is that last chance Maya was referring too??.duffer almost restraining himself from soaring Maya temper,lets see he breaks Maya trust or samay made it look like...


Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Samay is the variable, I want to see where he puts himself in the equation because that is what matters. a+ib is what is happening now, variable has to create condition and variable has to move away to see the effect of its place on the equation 😆😆. I am more interested when the variable moves away and the new equation comes to being. Dont know till what time I will have to wait. Mostly till end of May for sure. I dont see anything drastically improving till the end of IPL
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sunithi, after the last episode, I no longer have sympathy for the Mathur family - no matter what Samay will did, it's carte blanche in his hands. They deserve to fall into the mud. To the bottom
Jhanvi will be in the company of white-holy cloaks, can she be anywhere else? Do you know how hypocrites differ? Hypocrites are properly placed
Well, I think that Maya isn't self-confident. She's fighting. But in it impending doom is shouting. She is tired. Maya realized this before the leap. Yes, she's fighting. She will fight desperately, recklessly, until her last breath. But when fighter fights desperately, to the last breath, more often than not it means that he knows - this is his last fight. The lost battle in the originally lost war
And somewhere, it seems to me, Maya baby wants to lose. Illusions are too obvious. Exhaustion is too great
No, please, what kindness to the devil? In Maya kindness was for the whole world and a couple of universes in addition for too long. All this must die definitively. A frightened little girl who could not save mother of the millennium, and could not leave mother of the millennium, must perish. Then there must come a time for the second, in which locked up strength and anger, which they called bad&mad. They both must fall into the abyss. They must face. The catalyst and the inhibitor must be found in herself. Where they are and always was
Revenge isn't a difficult path for Duffer to return. This is an easy way. One of the most easiest
Revenge is just Duffer's reckoning for what he did to Maya's life from the moment he broke into it from his foot without asking permission
Do you know which way will be really difficult for Duffer?
If Maya finally finds herself. Will become complete full. Understand that she doesn't depend on anyone. And... And lose memory. Completely. And then Samay can really take away Maya. Tell Maya that she is an orphan. That she has a company. That he is her husband/friend. And here for Duffer there will be a difficult way
When all the doors, windows and window leaf and vent of the freebie are closed. No phobias. No fears. No Ashwin, on which he can drive in Maya's life. No Jhanvi, who can pour into Maya's ears "give Duffer a chance". Nothing. But there is Samay, who will take the tires. Close the doors. And prove that Duffer doesn't deserve even the slightest trust, which he doesn't deserve absolutely total. That Duffer is unworthy useless total unable to anything person at all. When Duffer has to face a real mistrust. And not with his whining. When his words will not be heard. When he will must fight, earn and prove. When there will be no freebies at all
This point is interesting. What it should be for the last chance. On the one hand, it was about the truth. But in the last episode, the speech was clearly about another. About betrayal
Frankly, without distinction, Duffer himself will lose, lose this last chance, or the army of white-holy cloaks or Samai will help him. He didn't deserve all the previous chances, so let him get out of Maya's life as faster as it possible. And Samay must close all the doors, windows, window leaf and the vent of the freebies, and even others possibilities too

@shruthiravi, the stagnation of this equation is very much tiring. How the variable will work. Really influence. I, too, are interested in much more. As well as what and how the effect this variable will have on the imaginary variable. Well, the new equation was for me an foretaste dessert. But expectations, perhaps, have decreased considerably. If to the end of May. I hope they will not drag it all further away
Edited by Laska - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@laska there are 3 characters in the show which make me agonize so much

1) Arjun :
"Main Maya se pyaar karta hoon, woh bimar hai aur main uski dawa hoon " "agar pagalpan theek kiya toh pyaar kam ho jaayega "
And this is exactly why you wanted divorce from her, right! And you also arranged for someone to beat you up so that she cries, and when she cried you started to enjoy it! That is obviously because you love her!!

"Maine Maya pe kabhi haath nahi uthaya"
Absolutely true, bas thodi der pehle thodha sa gala daba rahe the and the dialogue was " jab saans aana band hoti hai toh aankhon ke saamne andhera chaa jaata hai"
Later accompanied by "main tumhara haath tod doonga"

He says that he loves Maya but I am in no mood to believe him.
Wasn't he the one who promised Maya, "I would never lie to you" but kept breaking that promise again and again??

And I really want to know how exactly has he planned to be medicine for Maya or is he waiting her to miraculously get cured?

2) Vandana:
I don't even want to talk about her but if I must, wasn't she not at all good at pretending, then how is she playing detective detective?

And remember "Maya beemar nahi buri hai"
Dialogue from that person who was taunting Maya for bleeding her foot, threw Maya's clothes out of washing machine, told her not to comeback in her house, called her dayan for getting Arjun arrested when she was the one who reopened the case and what not!!
Agreed Maya is severely mentally ill, maybe even evil, but for someone as evil and inhumane as you, you have no right to comment on anyone's burai!!
It is so interesting to note that Vandana has an innate talent, zarurat ke hisaab se alag alag role nibha sakti hai. Mandir mein bhagwan banke Maya ko dhamka sakti hai, police station mein she can become durvasa rishi and curse her stepson, ghar mein detective ban sakti hai, even a psychiatrist who can tell that Maya is not bimar, she is buri!!
All I want to ask is, if you just saw someone mercilessly beating herself up with belt, would you not try to make her consult a professional help?? Do you need more proof that she is beemar.
More than anything, think logically. She loves Arjun!! Only a severely mad person can do that. Even Arjun knows that the secret to Maya's Beyhadh pyaar is her paglapan and he is duffer still he is aware of that!

Yes Maya is absolutely wrong in her actions, but nothing makes me sympathetic with this woman who feels it is okay to treat someone like trash if you feel like it! Maya deserves punishment, well so do you!

3) Jahnvi:
Jhanvi I hate you the most. You can easily win the title of "worst mom ever"

You can be supportive of Vandana??! She was the woman who said "Maya ki maa yahan nahi aayegi, yeh Maya ka pagalkhan nahi hai" Guess who was the pagal in the pagalkhana? YOU! And she used to say "Yeh sab Maya aur uski Maa ki chaal hai" "Maya ki maa ab teri maa se zyada zaroori ho gayi" etc
But of course, you would help her, wouldn't you.

And you feel so sorry for your dear Arjun and even for yourself. Who cares if Maya is all wounded in the battle of life, you and your Arjun want fresh air to breathe. And it must be so painful for you to be paralysed, after all you can't go in parties, where you find Ashwin and eat sweets with him.

But most of all, I don't understand is how can you not protect your child against a beast Ashwin??
A lot of people are speculating that maybe Maya was lying about Ashwin. Fine, hypothetically, she is lying.
But when Ashwin came to her house on her birthday, scared the shit out of Maya, gave her a traumatising experience, what did you do. You accepted a gift (sari) from him, which was only 2 days after this incidence saying "woh badal gaye hain Maya ". And that pagal Maya burns the sari, how dare she! Who cares if the Sari was from the tormentor, who was torturing and scaring Maya only 2 days ago, Maya had no right to burn it. She should have fallen on the feet of thy great mother and rejoiced in her love story, where her Mom's lovers is actually her abuser!

And then Jhanvi gets annoyed and leaves to enjoy herself in the beach, even calls an employee of her daughter for her enjoyment, whereas Maya is committing suicide as "Baap ne chod kar takleef di, beti saath reh kar takleef de rahi hai"

Jhanvi I HATE you and I want you to suffer the most. You deserve all the pain in the world!!
Edited by manya_roy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
manya_roy, yes. These characters really lead to frenzy. In them, indigenous hypocrisy
- The first one is Duffer. Oh, how much he was showered with gratitude that he does not leave a bad&mad Maya baby
I would like to give him the award of the husband of the millennium. He should rightfully take his place right next to Jhanvi and VM

He claims he loves Maya. No, you, guy, can hang this rubbish on the ears of VM, Jhanvi and Maya (somebody remove the Stockholm syndrome from Maya's head, she really suffers of it)

He says that he does not know anything except how to love Maya
Nope, he just doesn't know how to love Maya absolutely. He doesn't know how to love, because he doesn't love

His love is expressed in that he lies her a million times a day
His love is expressed in the fact that he likes to hurt Maya. He really enjoying it off
His love is expressed in the fact that he condescendingly stays with her
In that, which shakes her psyche from day to day literally with an electric shock
In that which he drives her to suicide
In that he betrays Maya (betrayal isn't only an intimate relationship with someone else, this concept is much broader)
In that he raises his hand to Maya

Every time Duffer says that he doesn't raise his hand to Maya, I want to push him in the wall with a force and yell right in his tight, deaf ears. "You raise your hand, jerk! You raise! With words! With deeds! With actions! And With your hands too! Raise! Now, go and kill yourself right to the wall, ostensibly a man! Burn in hell with this, jerk!"
Yes, maybe he will not tear Maya's dress. But in the fact that one day he will not break Maya's bones, I have no certainty. Rather, there is a certainty that he will break
And somewhere, it seems to me that Maya also has this feeling. It's a feeling that he will beat her. She crosses it. She grabs the strap and hits herself. It's easier that way. It's easier. It's easier to be mad, which beats herself, than to check, does he not break the hand? It is easier to block out the way to this "mistake" (as Maya understands this crookedly) than reality will hit in face - he will completely become Ashvin, totally. She doesn't give him this chance. Maya says "Today you can hurt me as much as you want. I accept all the pain that he gives"
It makes me wonder - did he beat her, literally? Did it happen once? Or, feeling the danger, the right answer (he is coming to her aggressively. Grabs her hands. By hairs. Shakes with strength) did she take it?
In fact, Duffer beats Maya by Maya's hands

He is waiting for her death. Waits for her to die so that he remains with all the bonuses with luxury, but the innocent victim of a bad&mad wife. He already has a tearful story about his difficult life. He already try issued it on VM, and BINGO it's works. He wants to heal Maya, yeah. Aggravating her condition day by day

And I want him to suffer no less than Jhanvi. He bears the same responsibility for the state of Maya now as Jhanvi

- Coming to the VM. Her definition of bad and good. Sick people and bad people. I would very much like the whole world to point a finger at her. To her whole life came to the surface. Not only her attitude to Maya. Her past. Her teary story

I have no problem with the fact that she doesn't love Maya. That she doesn't like Maya. That Maya is wrong for her. All this is understandable, acceptable, and so on, from the position "she is a mother, she worries about her son"
Her mother breaks instantly when she can't bless Maya standing in front of her on her knees
It isn't the human and humanity that breaks here, the mother is breaking here! The mother can't turn away from the child who fell to his knees. If she's a mother. A mother can't turn her back on any child, not just her own. A mother will never believe a child torturer, even if the child is bad. A mother will never believe someone who dared to hurt someone who is weaker physically, psychologically, morally and emotionally. This is the maternal instinct, that instinct, which kills all the signs, omens, predictions, horoscopes - everything. A mother has incredible power, but only if she is a mother
The power of the VM in curses. In signs. Omens. Superstitions. She literally with her own hands day by day painstakingly embodied the terrible predictions of the pundit in life. And now she does the same thing. She brings this picture to perfection, completely turning into reality what could have happened, and maybe not
Remember, she asked what to do to stop the wedding? She never asked, didn't think, and didn't want to do something that would change these predictions for the better
Mother raises. Mother educates. Mother directs. Mother supports. Mother gives life. Mother creates
VM destroys. VM takes life. Both sons of the VM can raise their hand against the girl - this is enough to talk about how she raised her sons
But, among other things, VM is also not a human, because there is no humanity in her either

- Jhanvi
Knowing that VM tortured Maya in Sharma's house, Jhanvi supports VM. Knowing that Ayan attacked Maya, Jhanvi supports Ayan. Knowing that Duffer is the worst nightmare as husband, Jhanvi supports Duffer
Yes, she is the worst mother that can ever be

This scene with the sari - "Go and Die" And Maya goes
Duffer - "Go and die" And Maya goes
They both know that Maya is emotional. Both know that she will do it. And still they both say.
And then they both say, "What have you done? How could you? I love you! I love you very much! You're my life! My heart!"
And this cycle is repeated countless times
If they in this way loves Maya, I swear, hatred on their side would be a manifestation of far more mercy and humanity
Jhanvi and Duffer are Maya's curse. Literally suspended death sentence. As if the condemned sentenced to a million deaths and perverted sadistic minds every day come up with new death penalty

And I want these two to suffer the most. Both. And if for them CVs left some way back, then I want it to be incredibly vicious fanatically sadistic complex. Not just an accept their mistakes. Not just sorry. No. That it was a hell of a road of fire, lava, so that both of them would burn in hell forever
Although if put everything beyond the brackets, then Jhanvi and Duffer deserve to see Maya healthy normal good sane happy without them. Because Maya is not well not normal bad&mad unhappy because of them
Let Maya take someone else to heaven. Colorize someone else's life
This option is even more to my liking
Edited by Laska - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@manya Maya may be evil or whatsover, but the great Vandana Mata has no right to make judgement on her. I am absolutely clear on that.

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