Too many loopholes in the flashback track

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Posted: 5 years ago
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1) MJ started playing with Maanvi and indulged in fake affair with her and destroy her life only because she returned his flowers? 😳Flowers return karne ke liye kaun itna ghatiya khel khelta hai? Instead they should have shown Manvi slapping him or accusing him of being a flirt or something like that.

2) Why is Maanvi's family not given importance in the track? She lives with her family, indulges in an affair with her boss and her family has no idea about it? Yeh kaise ho sakta hai?

3) Maanvi wanted to quit her job because she realized she was doing wrong in having an affair with a married man and her boyfriend is not divorcing his wife because he has responsibility towards his family. But when MJ tells her that he is going to leave everything for her and Antara will take away all his business if he divorces her, instead of still breaking up with him, she continues her affair with MJ. 🤔Here I find Maanvi too at fault because she knew what she is doing is wrong yet she had become so blind in his love that she continues her affair with MJ even though she had no idea if MJ will ever divorce his wife and marry her or not.

I will wait for the next episode to see what else he does with her and how he kills her family. Probably that's when her murdering Rishi and attempting to drown Antara might be justified.

But I must say that somewhere it was Maanvi's fault too. She knew she was doing wrong yet she continues to do so in her blind love. Though the biggest culprit is MJ himself and I am not gonna deny that.

There are way too many loopholes in this flashback track.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Yes, maanvi is at fault and she has been stupid to trust a creep like MJ. She should have left the premises as soon as she was done with the shift. She should not have gone to MJ's cabin and told him that she is leaving.

Edited by vatika_r - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I expect there to be something more in story even mj mom and antara was not shown what wrong they did is yet to be shown, and maya family what happen with them, And whatever they show fb killing rishi can't be justified he was innocent and was not involve with his father in any act
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Her murdering Rishi will never be justified no matter how horrendous her past is. That's one thing. Regarding MJ's reason to fake love with her, it's not about returning flowers per se but about hurting his male ego that makes such men believe that they can own any woman they lay their eyes on.. Manvi had been verbally rejecting his advances saying she is not that kinda girl which must have irked him too..As far as her family is concerned, all I can think of is that Manvi acted foolish in hiding her growing feelings and affair from her parents, particularly her mother..Had she been more open about her feelings, she could have been properly guided but such things are not unheard of.. Just goes to show how important it is for parents to instill that much confidence in their children so that they feel free to discuss anything with them when they are in any sort of doubt. The bottomline is that yes Manvi has been extremely foolish and short sighted..she entered into a forbidden relationship, without giving thoughts about the repercussion, solely guided by her feelings and emotions that were taken for a ride. She is very much at fault as she herself has admitted when writing her story when mentioning exactly at what point she let her guards down and started getting comfortable around MJ. But she did not deserve to be abused physically, mentally and emotionally in the way she was. MJ should have let her go if he was not ready to take responsibility of his actions..that itself would have been a punishment for Manvi's mistake. But what he did with her was monstrous and he deserves to be taught a lesson.

Edited by MistyDawn - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I don't think he played the game for returning those flowers. His game started right when Amir was giving her appointment letters in the office and he saw her for the first time, MJ was already stalking her the whole day. Who knows he got her appointed to play this game only.

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Originally posted by: Rightful_Life

1) MJ started playing with Maanvi and indulged in fake affair with her and destroy her life only because she returned his flowers? 😳Flowers return karne ke liye kaun itna ghatiya khel khelta hai? Instead they should have shown Manvi slapping him or accusing him of being a flirt or something like that.

2) Why is Maanvi's family not given importance in the track? She lives with her family, indulges in an affair with her boss and her family has no idea about it? Yeh kaise ho sakta hai?

3) Maanvi wanted to quit her job because she realized she was doing wrong in having an affair with a married man and her boyfriend is not divorcing his wife because he has responsibility towards his family. But when MJ tells her that he is going to leave everything for her and Antara will take away all his business if he divorces her, instead of still breaking up with him, she continues her affair with MJ. 🤔Here I find Maanvi too at fault because she knew what she is doing is wrong yet she had become so blind in his love that she continues her affair with MJ even though she had no idea if MJ will ever divorce his wife and marry her or not.

I will wait for the next episode to see what else he does with her and how he kills her family. Probably that's when her murdering Rishi and attempting to drown Antara might be justified.

But I must say that somewhere it was Maanvi's fault too. She knew she was doing wrong yet she continues to do so in her blind love. Though the biggest culprit is MJ himself and I am not gonna deny that.

There are way too many loopholes in this flashback track.


My, my. I opened the EXACT SAME thread, with minor variations; read it here:


https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/beyhadh-2/5151122/something-feels-odd-about-the-flashbacks

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Posted: 5 years ago
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It is hard to comprehend human depravity while being morally righteous, decent people. Audiences have to to remember that Beyhadh shows the different versions of extreme personalities and behaviour so it won't be entirely plausible. However, what they showed here is probably more realistic than what they have shown in other ITV serials. Additionally, it is easy to question manvi repeatedly but have we really walked in her shoes? I would have done things differently and probably never gotten into this mess, but girls like Manvi still exist in this world. sadly.


Originally posted by: Rightful_Life

1) MJ started playing with Maanvi and indulged in fake affair with her and destroy her life only because she returned his flowers? 😳Flowers return karne ke liye kaun itna ghatiya khel khelta hai? Instead they should have shown Manvi slapping him or accusing him of being a flirt or something like that.

Like I said, it is hard to understand the depraved human psyche because we are good, and we only associate ourselves with good people. Laxmi Agarwal's attacker tossed acid in her face because she verbally refused his marriage proposal repeatedly. after stalking and harassing her, he threw acid on her while his friend and his girlfriend supported. Men, especially in our culture have very fragile egos due to ingrained patriarchy and toxic masculinity. To really understand how fragile their egos can be, we need to talk to women who were abused by men. The entire world is at MJ's feet, so his ego couldn't tolerate this chhoti aukaad wali ladki returning the flowers.


2) Why is Maanvi's family not given importance in the track? She lives with her family, indulges in an affair with her boss and her family has no idea about it? Yeh kaise ho sakta hai?

Because Manvi Knew she was wrong. Had she told her parents, they would give her the right advice to leave him. A delusional manvi will counter that MJ is not "uss type ka admi, and he "really loves her." If naive 21 year olds were open with their parents and shared everything with them, they would not get into the problems they do. Manvi thought her parents won't understand and perhaps did not want to scare them. When I was that age, I hid a lot of things from my parents and regretted it later. As Maya said, it was her naivety and "kamzori" that got her into this mess.


3) Maanvi wanted to quit her job because she realized she was doing wrong in having an affair with a married man and her boyfriend is not divorcing his wife because he has responsibility towards his family. But when MJ tells her that he is going to leave everything for her and Antara will take away all his business if he divorces her, instead of still breaking up with him, she continues her affair with MJ. 🤔Here I find Maanvi too at fault because she knew what she is doing is wrong yet she had become so blind in his love that she continues her affair with MJ even though she had no idea if MJ will ever divorce his wife and marry her or not.

Of course Manvi was at fault. The viewers agree manvi was at fault, and even maya admits she was too idealistic and naive. Believe it or not, plenty of women fall for the wrong man and continuously give them chances. Her first instinct was right but she thought with her heart, not with her brain. MJ is a seasoned manipulator and Manvi was the fixer. she was stupid, did not back away and paid a price too heavy.


I will wait for the next episode to see what else he does with her and how he kills her family. Probably that's when her murdering Rishi and attempting to drown Antara might be justified.

But I must say that somewhere it was Maanvi's fault too. She knew she was doing wrong yet she continues to do so in her blind love. Though the biggest culprit is MJ himself and I am not gonna deny that.


She was wrong yes, and she screwed up. This mistake cost her entire life. although the questioning and finger pointing at her is incredibly frustrating. Given what a predator MJ is, Manvi's withdrawal would make him even more obsessed because he is a chauvinistc pig, who likes to see women at his feet.

There are way too many loopholes in this flashback track.



Edited by pomegranate - 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Her murdering Rishi will never be justified no matter how horrendous her past is. That's one thing. Regarding MJ's reason to fake love with her, it's not about returning flowers per se but about hurting his male ego that makes such men believe that they can own any woman they lay their eyes on.. Manvi had been verbally rejecting his advances saying she is not that kinda girl which must have irked him too..As far as her family is concerned, all I can think of is that Manvi acted foolish in hiding her growing feelings and affair from her parents, particularly her mother..Had she been more open about her feelings, she could have been properly guided but such things are not unheard of.. Just goes to show how important it is for parents to instill that much confidence in their children so that they feel free to discuss anything with them when they are in any sort of doubt. The bottomline is that yes Manvi has been extremely foolish and short sighted..she entered into a forbidden relationship, without giving thoughts about the repercussion, solely guided by her feelings and emotions that were taken for a ride. She is very much at fault as she herself has admitted when writing her story when mentioning exactly at what point she let her guards down and started getting comfortable around MJ. But she did not deserve to be abused physically, mentally and emotionally in the way she was. MJ should have let her go if he was not ready to take responsibility of his actions..that itself would have been a punishment for Manvi's mistake. But what he did with her was monstrous and he deserves to be taught a lesson.

well said, also MJ is a control freak man who always wants to prove his point right. Even in the case of rudra he wanted to prove his point right to rudra that the girl is not suitable for him.. Probably he had made his mind to make rudra marry his bf sudhir's daughter ananya.

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