What is Mangala so scared of? DTN pg 27 - Page 19

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Posted: 9 years ago
Lol...
now mangala is termed as kidnapper?
Can anypne please define what kidnapping is?
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

Mangala has gone bad now and I am not justifying her acts anymore. But you were talking about last 11 years in your previous post, stating that Anandi suffered while Mangala enjoyed. That is why I said it is incorrect.


In those last 11 years (from what was shown), Mangala never purposefully kept Anandi's daughter or harmed her.

Let's not mix the two; i.e. M's behaviour before revelation and after revelation.




She saved the girl and in those 11 years . Even though she claims she loved the girl she could hardly do anything to save the girl from beating , from starvation.

You will say she had limitation , she saved her many times. But we have also seen her suffering many times too. She was tied on the tree top . Sitting in the house and worrying for the girl dont serve any purpose. Where was this stomping, jumping that time which we see now?

Then agree she couldnt do everything what a mother should do. I dont fault her there.

I agree just the way Kamli , Chagni took care of the girl, she too did it in whatever way she could.

But why did she lied to that girl and given her the feeling of unwantedness that she was found in the garbage bin knowing that the kid was so upset because of this. Physical torture didnt matter to her . But this feeling hurt her badly.

It was a two way traffic. She saved her loved her in turn she got to satisfy her motherly feelings which is the greatest treasure in the world. So it is also not correct that she had only gave , gave , gave. But we saw she got, got , got too

Nothing wrong in that too. But only wrong is the truth hidden from the girl and giving her the feeling of unwantedness has been done purposely so that the girl only loves her, no one else. There comes the selfishness, when she knew she has a mother and N was kidnapped by her family members she still hurt her.

I am not telling it is her responsibility to search her mother. But it was her responsibility to tell her the truth so that she is not hurt.

That same purpose which was seen that time vaguely became crystal clear when she got the threat of the real mother.

She understood her love is not enough to keep her.


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Posted: 9 years ago
As per oxford dictionary, Kidnapping is - Abduct (someone) and hold them captive, typically to obtain a ransom:


First, akhiraj did not kidnap anandi's daughter. He snatched her daughter away in front of her eyes to teach her a lesson for ruining his son's marriage.

The girl was taken not to ask for any ransom from anandi, but to be killed... for anandi, her deaughter is dead.

Those who are asking what right does mangala have over anandi's daughter, could kindly explain to us with what right anandi claims that her daughter is still alive?

With what right does anandi think that Mangala MUST feel obliged to reunite her daughter with her... this she was complaining to dr.anant that as a Maa how can mangala not understand her feelings.

Please tell us why mangala should be under anandi's obligations ?


Edited by Shinya - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: prepal


You got it right about Anandi not having abandoned her daughter. And also it is not necessary that love is bound by biological relationship. It is true that Mangala looked after Nimboli and she did indeed look after her lovingly for all those years. But what transpired after that is is what was wrong.

She knows who Nimbolis mother and her family is and she knows the entire truth of how Nimboli was lost to her. But then she willfully kept the truth from Nimboli and has even planted a story about an unkind mother who abandoned her. That does not amount to love, but cruelty and possesiveness in the weirdest way which says "I will keep you whatever the cost and Damn your feelings. You better love me because I looked after you."

As for the serial not showing Anandi searching desparately for her daughter, there were mentions about the search but the story was more focussed on the Jhalra issue. And what could have been shown? Anandi running around in the forest and nearby villages? The fact that the case was not closed is proof enough.


I will reply to your last para. All other paras are already answered in this thread.

After the leap, there were no mentions about anandi searching for her daughter. Once police called her to say a girl was found in some orphanage and she went.

Did she use her brains to wonder why her daughter who she knew was married to the abductor's son will reach an orphanage? .. no she didnt... that shows she was hardly keen to know where exactly her daughter was.

But there are enough incidents showing mangala taking care of nimboli, fighting with harki and akhiraj over the child, protecting the chid from their beating, talking to her and listening to her.

It is not enough just giving the child food, the child must be listened to whatever he/she has to say, which mangala did.

The fact that child also felt protective towards teesa and that she followed her when she went to meet vidhayak shows that she was raised with love and care by teesa.

And yes, instead of starting a school and learning karate and then teaching karate, had she gone house to house, she would have found harki or akhiraj.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: fast trak



You have nailed the point you want to say. Mangala isn't claiming rights because she saved but because she took care. Exactly what I wanted to say by giving Anandi madhura example. Anandi cannot claim motherly rights over madhura.
She has an attachment for the girl but ever since the real mother has arrived on the scene that attachment has become an obsession. Not just obsession she is harming the child in more ways than one.

No one paid Mangala for taking care of the child she did it out of her own free will but she never overdid anything there. In what way was what she did for Nimboli different or superior to what kamli or chagni did for her? I could've even given some brownie points to her if the child called her maa since the beginning bug that has started only after she ran away from Anandi and it was forced by mangala to call her that.

Anandi only gave her two slaps. Not enough! After whatever she's doing she deserves more than slaps. Maybe jail! She's a child abuser. If she was in the western world she would be certainly jailed.


Repeating the wrong thing over and over will not make it right... so I wont waste my time over it.


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita




She saved the girl and in those 11 years . Even though she claims she loved the girl she could hardly do anything to save the girl from beating , from starving.

You will say she had limitation , she saved her many times. But we have also seen her suffering many times too. She was tied on the tree top . Sitting in the house and worrying for the girl dont serve any purpose. Where was this stomping, jumping that time which we see now?

Then agree she couldnt do everything what a mother should do. I dont fault her there.

I agree just the way Kamli , Chagni took care of the girl, she too did it in whatever way she could.

But why did she lied to that girl and given her the feeling of unwantedness that she was found in the garbage bin knowing that the kid was so upset because of this. Physical torture didnt matter to her . But this feeling hurt her badly.

It was a two way traffic. She saved her loved her in turn she got to satisfy her motherly feelings which is the greatest treasure in the world. So it is also not correct that she had only gave , gave , gave. But we saw she got, got , got too

Nothing wrong in that too. But only wrong is the truth hidden from the girl and giving her the feeling of unwantedness has been done purposely so that the girl only loves her, no one else. There comes the selfishness, when she knew she has a mother and N was kidnapped by her family members she still hurt her.

I am not telling it is her responsibility to search her mother. But it was her responsibility to tell her the truth so that she is not hurt.

That same purpose which was seen that time vaguely became crystal clear when she got the threat of the real mother.

She understood her love is not enough to keep her.



Sorry, no offense, but I lost the point of discussion and have got confused with your above post (in relation to what we we were discussing since pg 21)

Your initial post suggested that Anandi lost so much over 11 years but Mangala gained a lot. To which I said M didn't cash on A's loss.

The final post is saying what did M do that other well wishers didn't. Well, I have listed all that she did for N on page 21 , of this thread, so I won't list again.

In your final post you have also said why she didn't tell N the truth. Not sure how that point is connected to the original point, i.e. Anandi's loss equating to Mangala's gain.


Edited by Missesha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: SPuja


We all know M was made negative to make some sympathy for Anandi. But why did Anandi hid the truth? The root cause is Anandi - for the suffering of both Nimboli and Shivam.




Awww , you know the truth? Why she was made negative? Same old thing

But few of us knew the truth from the beginning that she had that in her. I guess we understand the writer.

Anandi dont need M to gain sympathy. She would have gained enough sympathy without M

Kamli and Chagni were also there.

But why cant you discuss M without bringing Anandi.

We know she is the root couse , actually everything in this serial
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Posted: 9 years ago
Anandi always need a negative person to gain sympathy.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha


Sorry, no offense, but I lost the point of discussion and have got confused with your above post (in relation to what we we were discussing since pg 21)

Your initial post suggested that Anandi lost so much over 11 years but Mangala gained a lot. To which I said M didn't cash on A's loss.

The final post is saying what did M do that other well wishers didn't. Well, I have listed all that she did for N on page 21 , of this thread, so I won't list again.

In your final post you have also said why she didn't tell N the truth. Not sure how that point is connected to the original point, i.e. Anandi's loss equating to Mangala's gain.




I am not interested in going thru the list what M did in 11 years for N. because I have also seen it.

But by hiding this truth itself says she did everything only for herself, to gain . So that the girl only clings to her. She only satisfied her motherly instinct.

Actually what she did is nothing in comparison to what she got, I mean the love from that girl.

I would have said she didnt cash on A's loss if she would have shared her whole heartedly with A. If she didnt run away. if she had told her the truth. If she had been truthful to the little girl and truthful to herself.

She cashed on A's loss as well we evilness of Harki, Akhi and Kundan

Edited by hisusmita - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: SPuja


@bold - when did she said that?



She told this to Chagni

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