Jagya's role in the twins' life - Page 10

Originally posted by: aparnauma

People who could never look beyond Anandi and Jagya's status as exes have no problems if Anandi's son is attached to Jagya😛

Originally posted by: aparnauma

For the CVs Anandi and her relationship with Singhs come way above everything else.

And that is why this show has suffered because it re-emphasized kacchi umar ke pakke rhiste.

So the message of a single mother raising her children with the help of her family they would only use Singhs for that.

And thats where this show loses Anandi - single woman, child bride etc- none of her roles are solely hers. They are facilitated by a rich support system.

To show case that every relationship of Anandi will be taken away just to show how much Singhs care for her.

Singhs' on their own were very interesting characters too..alot of their own bonds were sacrificed to showcase the mahaan Anandi...when it started and even now..Singhs' were the crux family and core of this show. Somewhere BV meandered into mediocrity when they followed the textbook of making it all about one character and making her the focal moral right.

Shekhar family characters were never developed the way Singhs characters were so from the time they entered till the time they exited Shekhar family members remained as Shiv's family with no identity of their own

Precisely why I never liked the idea of Shiv..Shekhars' were unnecessary when they first came- they took away the much needed alone time for Anandi and the rush for her 2nd marriage took away from her character. Shiv was just that a blank white character..who had no shades , no nuances. Hence the Shekhars' failed to strike a cord because they just seemed to be inserted to re-create another BH type setup. And they never could click except for the romantic pair.

Shiv and Singhs relationship was developed with a lot of care as well and they ensured that Shiv and Dsa scenes or Shiv Sumi Bhairon scenes were well written and a lot of thought had gone into it so much so that Shiv looked so much better with BH wasis than he ever did with Shekhar family

Ofcourse, because Anandi was staying wth Singhs' like people call her BH's daughter ..as second marriage goes which family won't re-check on the guy.Singhs' were the hook for the show along with Anandi-people wanted to see them..and this is why they are there.

Coming back to the topic if J became part of Shivam's life instead of Mahi or Vivek it was because CVs made Singhs as Anandi's family and to make the move acceptable they used Daddu the most loveable of Shekhar after Shiv so that people can accept Anandi moving over to Jaitser to stay with Dsa.

And does it even matter? How do we even know Mahi or Vivek or anyone had the correct sensibilities or raising a kid. They were 2-bit characters and we are compering them with a character that has been there since day 1?

It's a daily show -characters that don't click are chopped off.

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Their theme is Child marriage and through Singhs and Anandi they want to showcase how a tradition bound society can move forward if the change comes from within and not just because of laws and punishments.

Strongly disagree. Bal vivaah is not a "tradition" - it's a criminal offence and should never been encouraged or promoted the way BV did and continues to do so. You cannot sell it's "evolution" because the basic thought is all wrong.

Child marriage should have been condemned and this show should have focused on it's 2 independent characters/victims-Anandi and Jagya separately .But because they shied away from showing a flawed Anandi and because they just never had the balls to call out child marriage strongly..they ended up making it all seem "normal".

What use would Shekhars have in a story that focuses on social evils which are prevalent in rural society and how they suppress women in rural communities?

LOL ..irony..all they reduced women was serving tea and food or scheming away.

When Anandi the character was designed to address issues that trouble rural women why would they keep her in Udaipur?

Token Social service - most of the time she s played for internal family dynamics.

Anandi's education happened in rural

setting they made her face all the problems that women in rural settings face

Never happened- they packed her off for romance with a new guy , the moment she seemed to have some career.

They built her character from begining till the time Shiv died and she moved back to Jaitser.

The whole Shiv arc kind of made her independent journey redundant..he was brought too soon.

The move to Udaipur and the urban family setting was to give Anandi a broader perspective

Which she never got. She was seen to do same things there , another BH. I never saw her go through a transition between rural-urban

Dsa reflects the change in mindset of the rural community and Anandi is the instrument of change they invested a lot in this relationship between the two women with all the other people in their lives facilitating this relationship.Because they show case these two women as symbols of change in society.

Sadly - the face of change Anandi stands hollow.

Dsa could keep Anandi her grandson's ex wife because she had complete faith in the purity of the intentions of the girl/woman who had been the DIL of the family once.She knew that Anandi would never do anything that would put Jagya Ganga's relationship at risk Anandi knew that she would never look at Jagya other than as a friend both have faiith in themselves. That's why they can live as one family and not care for the narrow minded society think

Wow, purity of a woman? So no daughter pyaar for Anandi..it's only because she thinks Anandi has "pure" intentions she keeps her there.

What Dsa knows about Anandi is insignificant- Jagya-Ganga, marriage is about them..their comfort levels, their dynamics and ease should be all aobut them..no 3rd person should take a call. This doesn't mean they suspect Anandi's purity but there is an awkwardness given the history, involvement and kids-if they never had any insecurities then i would call them a "verb" too and not as humane characters. Funny how only Anandi, Jagya's intentions are thought of and not how awkward it can be for Ganga.

It is not about Jagya-Anandi not controlling their hormones- thats for reducing it just about sex or intimacy.

It's about these two characters never living outside each other\'s shadows. Even if they live at one place they still seem to be so focused on each other's lives- there is no privacy or boundaries in how they lead the lives.

It is a rural set up- the social message going here could be- look ,child marriage turned out to be a blessing for Anandi.

Anandi could never step outside BH or the bahu-mode.

People who could never look beyond Anandi and Jagya's status as exes have no problems if Anandi's son is attached to Jagya😛

Fact- Anandi and Jagya are exes because OF CHILD MARRIAGE- hence people are disgusted the way cvs have managed to subtly glorify the evil practice and overlooked Jagya as a victim too.

Fact , they both have made annoyingly too many interference in each other's personal lives

Fact- Anandi brought her kid in BV, making Jagya - the fatherly figure.

Originally posted by: SPuja

A few phrases we see so frequently - she has not given place of her mother to anyone and he has not given place of his father to any one. But then when a child knows that he/she has a mother/father who is not living with them - naturally he/she will not see anyone else as mother/father. But this does not mean that the mother figure or the father figure is any less.

Whatever M has become now - it can't be denied that she is the reason Nimboli is alive now - she is the person Nimboli looks up to as parent. If she wanted to meet her real mother - it was to ask why she dumped her. And whatever the condition that led J to be near Shivam - but it can't be denied that he is the father figure for Shivam. The scene where Shivam was lost and J went there tell all.

Anandi's children are lucky that they received parental love from people other than their parents also. It does not belittle Anandi or Shiv as parent in any way. Anandi's parenting has been questioned because of her own actions and not because her children got parental love from any other person also.

Originally posted by: Missesha

The same could be said the other way round too 😃. The people who have no problems with Anandi living with her ex -spouse, and are ever ready to justify her status as beti, have so much problem if Anandi's son loves and is loved by the Son of BH 😉😆

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Mannu is close to his aunt Anandi just like Shivam is close to uncle Jagya this happened because Anandi and Shivam live in the same house.

Originally posted by: Missesha

J is respected because the kind of compassion he shows for Shivam, even though he had to play this role due to circumstances.

J could have very well chosen to remain only cordial with Shivam and barely bonded with him. But that was not the case. He loved and cared for this boy because is a selfless loving person.

One cannot say mahi and Vivek would have done the same. It is not everyone's prodigy to be able to love someone's child as his own.

By the same virtue and reciprocation, Shivam looks upon J as a father figure, a only go-to male person, a person who fills the void of a father in his life, and a person on whom he can rely completely, but without side-lining his own father's place from his life.