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Posted: 11 years ago
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@TM superb post👏
Just on a different tangent, I feel today, the parents have equated parenting to just fulfilling every desire and need of the child...see everyone is working..nobody has the time for being there for every moment of the child - so they either hire nannys or grandparents take care of them

Parents are busy running around to achieve the goals...and just hand over Iphones/ Ipads/ laptops to kids instead of playing with them or listening to their fun encounters or taking them out to play in gardens...and that is really sad

Kids dont get love and affection from their parents, all they get is fancy gadgets and pocket money
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ithas



Very well said. Thank you for giving me the idea about earning pocket money. My daughter is 5+ yrs old & I would definetly love to implement this idea of yours when Shez big enough for pocket money.

Another point of yours...if one parent scolds, the other one being silent. My husband & myself follow this & I must say its very important. Kids shouldn't take Parents for granted.

All the best for u'r sweet little girl. Hope she comes out with flying colors from MIT.


I agree. Good topic and post Annika.

I believe parents should present a united front to kids. Kids depend on dividing and ruling, I.e. if mum doesn't agree let me ask dad. We need to be a step ahead.

Shekhars, from arents, grandparents, siblings even latest addition, Babhi Anandi have all failed Saanchi. Every time Saanchi spoke badly to someone, they should have stopped her right there and made her apologise. Their excuse of bachpanna only gave signals to Saanchi, that, hey I'm the princess, I just need to bat my eyelashes to get what I want. Shekhars need a rude awakening. NOT everyone will dote or indulge your laadli. Ira should know this better than anyone because she does not tolerate what she considers transgressions by Anandi so how can she expect others to tolerate her daughters transgressions.
Edited by Picasso9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you for responses. 😊

@Truthseeker

You are right about different connotations of Laad-pyaar. My uncle and his wife may have seemed detached, solemn and almost like army generals by the family. But in long run their upbringing did only good to their sons. They ensured their sons did everything themselves. Today their sons are skilled in all things from driving to cooking! They ensured their sons were made responsible for every action they did. They were scolded for faults, never given extra comforts and not even extra "love" when they'd be sick. Today the boys are self reliant and know not to panic or blame others in trouble, but to look for solutions. Recently there was an untimely demise of a relative in our family. Everyone else was shaken. Only these guys were balanced and were able to handle not only funeral proceedings but also the grieving family. It was all due to the maturity and emotional stability they had. I knew they were also in pain. But unlike us, they knew how to manage it. We all either cried or suppressed it. They faced it but didn't let their sanity be affected.

Now I recall, how those boys would be the only ones who never complained in case of food, no fuss over what to eat or how food tasted, no fuss about travelling by bus or train, general or AC! Whatever that was available, they'd make use of it without fretting.

So yes, their parents gave them real "laad" preparing them for life and real world.

Otherwise parents only fulfil demands of kids, cover their mistakes or throw money to buy their mistakes or themselves go to apologise for kids' mistakes or don't think kids have made mistakes at all. Parents would either do things themselves or employ servants instead of letting kids do anything.

As in this serial, Shekhars were not bothered if Sanchi had not even taken a glass of water by herself! And DS would be bothered about how taxed her laadesar must even if he was overworked studying before exams! 😲

EDIT : I agree with you on Bhairon! However wise he might have been! But he has never sat with Jagya and had a heart to heart talk with him to learn more about him and to make him also learn about his father. No talk about life or responsibilities. Bhairon only protested and fell silent. Or supported and fell silent. But no conversation - which is necessary for parents to engage in regularly with kids!
Edited by Skepblun - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You know it feels funny how people say Saanchi lives a life of princess because living princess's life is not so easy...they are actually protected and bounded with so many rules...on how to behave and whom to make friends with and whom to talk to...the only part of princess is she doesn't have to do any work but apart form that even they have tough life...so let's not tease princesses by saying Saanchi is like a princess 😆...Saanchi is not bounded by anything...Shekhars did brought her up...they just told her to exist and to keep her loud mouth shut filled it with her demands...it like a dog is demanding food eaten by his master during dinner time so much that in the end the master gives him the food instead of ordering and taking the trouble to teach him to not beg like this at dinning table or in front of anyone
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Truthseeker


Wow nice. I used to earn my pocket money by ironing clothes(mine)😳! I was an expensive worker though😆


It is not the question whether you are expensive or not, it the fact that you knew you earned it by working and knew its value. Your parents could have given you that even without you working but with that working experience, even when you go out, you don't depend on some one to iron your cloths so that you can get ready. You will be self sufficient by end of the day. That is what we have to teach the kids.

Jaya
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Skep brilliant post. I am so glad to be back on this forum.
I think most Indian families struggle to find the right balance of parenting, scratch that every parent struggles in achieving that, just us Indians with our way of life find it even more difficult.

Once while discussing something similar with a friend , there came a point -is this love actually selfish, they love or give "laad" just so the child feel indebted and remain with them and abide with their wishes. It might be a sub-conscious thing but the expectations a parent comes to expect from a child increases day by day. Is this why parents get shocked when a child wishes to take a profession of not their choice. Why is it we immediately question his/her respect or love for the parents. What has laad or love got to do with life choices.

I personally feel, more than love give respect to your child. Advice, admonish , trust and understand him more. Though to expect no laad or love is difficult and unnecessary, just make sure of the boundaries and it doesn't turn into a blind obsession.

In case of Sanchi or even a Jagat, there is a giant lack of communication. With such kids parents tend to believe that their parenting is only limited to providing their every want and they take upbringing, as just an eventuality. They are unable to tell the child about the difference between a right and a wrong. And this has nothing to do with education , as proven by Shekhars.

Raising a child is very individualistic , I feel both disciplined and a more relaxed upbringing can equally be a good way of parenting , if parents are flexible, forthcoming and communicative when it comes to their children.

I dont know if it was laad or love but I had a pretty sheltered life in a sense , I was not really made to do certain household works but my parents and mostly my grandparents inspite of all the pampering made sure I knew where I was wrong, they let me have an opinion and more importantly I was encouraged to voice and debate about it. I credit my Grandma most for it ,as she made sure I had a good definition of right and wrong. Thankfully, it still stays with me. Same with my Dad, he always says, that he will advice me on everything but final decision is always going to be mine. They trust me enough to let me make my own mistakes, but they make sure i learn from them and realize it on my own.

I feel there is no ideal parenting , its a learning process which both parents and children should understand , there has to be a healthy respectful relationship.

Bhairon for all his sensibility lacks that communicating chip and so does Alok . They should have had sat their children down from a young age and told them where they are going wrong and how they should set it right.

Again, Brilliant post, Skep!







Edited by charminggenie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A brilliant post and a wonderful discussion by all. Posts like these make coming to IF worthwhile.👏👏👏

Edited by gun_k - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Anjani

Thank you. 😊 I agree that there is no ideal way of parenting. But I do know that there are certain things which are a no no. The way DS used to thrash or try to bribe Jagya's school masters when they punished him or feigned illness to divert attention whenever Jagya was scolded, covered up his mistakes etc. was wrong. This - you need not study, you need not bother about teachers or elders, you need not bother about money, you need noth bother about law - I'll stick up for you, all wealth is yours, we'll cover your mistakes - is BLUNDER.

Even now, Singhs did not make Jagya responsible for his actions. Only Bhairon asked him about Gauri. Others were happy to have him back. And DS was foolish enough to try to get Anandi back in his life despite her wedding fixed with Shiv.

Sanchi's family has never made her take responsibility for anything she does. Even now they want to rush to Jetsar and apologise for her blunders. They are so blinded that she makes excuses and they readily buy them.
She breaks things, she's rude and she lies at the drop of a hat, but they dismiss it as her nature instead of correcting her.

I agree parents give overdose of love thinking their child would grow up to be indebted to them. But that is not necessarily true. Kids mostly take advantage of it and bring trouble. Very few manage their conduct well due to gratitude they feel for parents' love.

Sometimes parents also give overdose of love because they themselves got rudeness all their life so they don't want their child to suffer the same. But just because it is your only son/daughter or you don't want suffering, doesn't mean you do not even ensure basic discipline and do not put your foot down when something is decidedly wrong. I don't say parents should keep thrashing kids all the time. But they have to be firm in making clear what behaviours shall not be condoned or tolerated.

We see even mothers of rapists defending them like crazy and wailing, Mera beta aisa kabhi nahi kar sakta! - accusing even the victim itself for framing him! This is all blatant blindness in attachment and "love" for kids! He whole world is wrong but my kid can't be wrong or whatever he does is a false accusation or bachpana reeks of absolute failure as parents!

I also think people pride themselves a lot over what they are as parents. So it hurts their own ego to accept their kid was wrong - which is evident in how Ira goes mad when she's told Sanchi was lying! Just as it took ages for DS to realise her ways were wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@TM - Well said about laad being the trap.
Regarding Sanchi and Jagya they are so many similarities in the way they were brought up which led them to growing up as weak and spineless individuals who had this sense of entitlement.They couldn't take it if something is denied to them.They were never taught how to handle a no.
That's why they went to pieces when things were denied to them.They plunge into unimaginble depths to get what they want because they cannot bear it if it has been denied to them.

That's what happened to Jagya when he was young it was just throwing tantrums and sulking when things did not go his way and as he grew older when he did not get his way he trampled over everybody to get what he wanted.And it took an extreme turn when he was denied of life with Anandi he plunged unimaginable depths to try and get back what he has thrown away.

Only when life kicked him so hard and he was left all alone in the world that he has managed to learn a few lessons in life the most important one being that he cannot have all that he wished for.

Same this happening with Sanchi she just cannot handle a no.She goes to pieces if she hears that and here she knows that Jagya doesn't love her but she still managed to get him to agree for a marriage and she is trying to do everything to keep him tied to her because she cannot bear to let go of him.

I don't think her parents will be able to do anything for her now.Because Jagya is gone and they won't be able to get him back for her.Knowing the kind of people thye are they will put the blame on Anandi and wash their hands off the matter.

It is high time that Sanchi learnt her lessons in life.It will be good if she sees Jagya walking in with Ganga and realise that she cannot have him.And most likely she will plunge into a major depression and trouble everyone else in her family.It would be so much better if they let Sanchi handle all this by herself and all the lessons that they could not teach their daughter life would teach her.But unfortunately they won't be able to disown Sanchi as Singhs disowned Jagya so they have to put up with her.That is the price they have to pay for their faulty upbringing.

There is nothing wrong in pampering ones children provided they make the children aware that there may be situations where they as their parents despite all their love for them may not be able to help them and give them what they want.And they should learn to handle those situations by themsleves
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hiral_Halwa

@TM superb post👏

Just on a different tangent, I feel today, the parents have equated parenting to just fulfilling every desire and need of the child...see everyone is working..nobody has the time for being there for every moment of the child - so they either hire nannys or grandparents take care of them

Parents are busy running around to achieve the goals...and just hand over Iphones/ Ipads/ laptops to kids instead of playing with them or listening to their fun encounters or taking them out to play in gardens...and that is really sad

Kids dont get love and affection from their parents, all they get is fancy gadgets and pocket money

This is very true.One of my colleagues said that since she can't find time to spend with him she tries to make for it by giving into his wishes and whims and tries to get everything he asks for her.She said that she did all those thing to lessen her guilt feelings over her inability to give him all the attention he requires.

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