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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Who asked the Singhs to give Ganga Shelter in their house?


Did she ask for it?

They insisted on giving her shelter esp J and DS becaue they wanted to wipe their past deeds by helping Ganga.

Did they not know that Rat is after her life when they gave her shelter?Did the expect Rat to run away with his tail between his legs when they took Ganga in ?

It was the Singh's foolishness that is the root cause.Not Ganga.


@bold, yes they knew that Rat is after her life when they gave her shelter. Singhs were foolish if they thought that Rat cannot do anything to them and even now when he has taken hostage their family members, they are instigating him with their false bravery. Elders in family should have thought of solution of this Rat menace after attack of Jagya. Instead they were busy celebrating his birthday and then marriage proposal. Only once Sumi talked sense, but Bhairo did not listen to her. By the way this is creatives pet tactic to drag- anybody who talks sensible is not heard- like Bhairo during Sanchi rishta and sumi with reference to sending away Ganga.

Ganga is also at fault. She knows Rat well. When it was known that Rat is behind attack on Jag, she could have thought of some alternative, she could have informed elders about how mean Rat is, she could have thought of saving her saviours by moving to some undisclosed location. But no, she was cry baby because her dactar sa is marrying someone else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32
Puja,

No matter what we talk, we are victim bashers now. I mean we never said bad words for ganga or any other character but analyzing the situation in our way. if peeps cant agree with it the best way is to respond why they think they disagree. But sarcasm is not explaining things.


Please members lets tone down our sarcasm. If we want our forum clean then we have to voice our opinions with less sarcasm and make people feel LESS offended. You love that character its ok but we all have different tastes. we have to respect each others view until and unless peeps are taking a way to bash a person or character. Anyways its a request so if you dont feel upto it i wont comment on that anymore.
Edited by Chytra - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: SPuja

No, the root of all problems is not Ganga. The root of problems is not thinking rationally. Giving shelter to a tortured lady, who has not one in this world is a noble act. But after recognising the threat this act poses (i.e. after attack on Jagya), Singh family as well as Ganga should have thought to solve this problem. They should have known that Ganga is not safe here because Rat knows she is here, and because of this, the whole family is in danger. But Singhs never think anything can happen to them and Ganga was busy with her love for Jagya, of all the people in Jaitsar, only she was aware of how mean Rat can be, then why she continue to weep over seeing Jagya with other woman and not thought about what she will do if Rat came here. Haveli is not a fort that she can hide here safely. Especially with what she felt in temple (men in monkey cap following her), she should have informed DS/Bhairo about this. Most ridiculous thing about this Ganga track is, she confides only in Jagya, he is shown as the (only) benefactor of Ganga, whereas the elders in family should have been involved in her welfare.


I have thought of VO of this track - "Bina vichare jo kare, So pachhe pachhtay."


True...shez too busy dreaming her life wid Dactar Saab...n becoming d bindni of haveli...😆

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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Why is Ganga the root of all problems?


Ganga was living her life and planning and plotting to leave Rat at the right moment and she succeeded also.But because of Jagya's interference she was captured by Rat.

Because he felt guilty about it he offered advice and help.

It was Jagya and DS who brought Ganga to their home made promises to help her and get her baby back, get Ratan out of her life and help her stand on her own two feet.

Helping a person like Ganga behind whom Ratan and his men are after means bringing problems to themselves and they knew all this when they decided to help Ganga.

One more thing Ganga never asked for their help it is the Singhs who offered the help and shelter.
She being a sensible person took their help.

How can it be Ganga the root of the problem?It is the Singhs who did not think properly or planned properly when they brought her into their house to help her.

Since it is the who offered help if they ditch her now it will look bad on their part.



Lol i think u forgot dat DS & Jagya dint go to her house n offered her to come to deir haveli...wen jagya offered her help den she denied...jagya ws nt forcing her to come wid him...it was she u eloped frm her house n came to jaitsar to take help...Singh were happily enjoying their Makar sankranti... even jagya had forgotten her...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chytra

Both ganga and singhs are equal in what they are suffering right now.

Even after knowing ratan is behind singhs coz they are helping her, Ganga didn't even for a second thought about it. I find it really shocking. A woman who lived with an animal for many years failed to know him? Even after knowing its him, she never thought of talking to singhs about it.

out of the box sumitra advice to send her to a hostel was a good solution. that way she can stay out of problems and taunts. If you need to help someone you need not necessarily keep them in your house. Sumitra was the only one who is fearful about this fate. She is the only one who is talking about protection and guards. Well her behaviour with mannu is OTT.

Rest of the Singhs, i donno what made them make her sit in their house and get their son almost killed. Sumi was right to change at that point. But ganga was not the one to be accussed here as well. It is singhs mistake that they didnt plan anything for themselves.none of them paid attention.

Coz of all their failure to reason, Gehna is suffering ultimately when she needs care the most. instead of care all she can feel is fear, all coz no one gave a thought of what next. To protect weaker section is our moral responsibility but it is never at the price of getting your family into harms way.


Xactly...dats wat i am sayin...To protect weaker section is our moral responsibility but it is never at the price of getting your family into harms way.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: ilove..sidyusha

Ganga is not a root of all problems. she is a victim

Ratan singh - the evil is root of all problems😡.😡




Hahahaha n who is Ratan Singh??? Ganga's Husband...den who is the Root????
ultimately Ganga
...😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: katy:love


Hahahaha n who is Ratan Singh??? Ganga's Husband...den who is the Root????
ultimately Ganga
...😃


Ganga was married off to Rat and never ever treated nicely by him. She was abused n raped by him. She was beaten, burnt and eventually rejected by him when he got a new wife.

Ganga is his victim. She is not Ratan's benefactor - she is not reponsible for Ratan. She has run away from him coz he was going to kill her. So how is Ganga responsible ?

Do you mean to say - she shud have continued to stay there till he murdered her and then Ratan would never have come to threaten the Haveli ?

Does her life has more or less value than Gehnas ? Does your or my life have equal value ? Who decides this ?

Rat thought her good for nothing and her kid as manhoos till his new wife had a daughter. All of a sudden, he wants his lovely son ? And how about his daughter ? Will you be ok if he now calls that girl manhoos ? Will you be ok if he now kills that baby daughter and that new wife ?

Is a husband -wife relation so sacrosanct that wife and husband have to live together and die together and others have to stay away even if one is killing the other ?

Edited by ApoorvaFan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: flutterby

🤣 again a prob of victim bashing... and her abuser gets away with it... 😆

first thing, TM... ur title... reads as ol problems... as much as we love american short terms, they are highly misleading... it actually reads as old problems... and not all problems... so u actually mean to say... ganga is responsible for jagya anandi divorce.. and gauri coming into their lives?? 😲 all their old problems?? 😲 😕


second... if ganga had gone to an anaath ashram... ratan would have gone there as well... wouldnt u have been worried for the anaathashram people's safety as well?? tsk tsk... so saad na??

ganga is a maid, yes... coz the singhs made her into one... asking her to do all the household chores... haanth bataao... now who is selfish here?? not seeing the other angle, r we??

the singhs knew fully well... the risk of ratan singh... who asked them to give shelter to ganga in the first place?? ganga herself?? naaa baba...

but because of the same ganga, jagya's life was saved as well... he was beaten black and blue... that was unfortunate... but zinda toh hai na banda?? thats what matters, ultimately... 😃

f Singh's r risking deir lyf fo d sake of dat ganga,,den y cant she do d same??? Cant she surrender herself to Ratan singh to save the Singh family who did so much fo her...instead of helpin dem shez hidin...hatsoff Ganga...dsnt matr if Dadisa askd her to hid...she cud hv come out to help 'em..

she is going away for nurse training isnt she?? how would she have known ratan would come BEFORE SHE WENT.. and who was supposed to capture ratan in the first place... how come they arent blamed for * ol problems* 😕

if ganga cnt give her son to his father who loves him so much
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wow!!! bravo!! what a perception... mannu's father LOVES HIM?? he used to call him manhoos... it was only after he realised that his second wife was carrying a girl... did he show his 'anokha love' to mannu... 🤢

ya, right... sumitra cant be expected... 🥱 to risk her son's life... but i believe bhairon too is jagya's father?? how come he doesnt behave like sumitra??? how come he tries to drive sense into Sumitra all the time?? 😳

think in both ways guys...n pls stop justifyng ganga blindly...shez mean...shez stakin so many lives @ risk...here her safety matrs d most dats y shez hidin...
Neithr ganga nor sanchi deserves to b d D-I-L of singh family...
i thought in both ways... but this post is just one way thinking... ganga is mean?? have u confused her with a character called Saachi?? tsk tsk...

then who shd be the D-I-L?? u and me?? 😉


as much as we love american short terms, they are highly misleading... it actually reads as old problems... and not all problems...


i love american shorts...😃 it will b reeli nice if u read it as ALL problems n not OLD problms...as far as i see d replies i dun think ne1 was confused wid d Title other dan u...😊


second... if ganga had gone to an anaath ashram... ratan would have gone there as well... wouldnt u have been worried for the anaathashram people's safety as well?? tsk tsk... so saad na??

Ratan wud surely hv gone dere...bt ganga wont b hidin like shez here...so dere Ratan wud easily hv got Ganga widout hurtng ne1..
In haveli he dint come n started shooting every1...hez askin fo his wife n son...he has given dem so much of chances to surrender ganga to him...I dun think Anath ashram me aisa hoga k Ganga ko bachane k liye sare log apni jaan daav pr lagayenge...😛



ganga is a maid, yes... coz the singhs made her into one... asking her to do all the household chores... haanth bataao... now who is selfish here?? not seeing the other angle, r we??

shelter b diya help b kiya n mehman nawazi b kare...uske bachhe k liye ek nurse laye...uske room me khana pahochaye...lol tab to aur nai jayegi haveli chhod kr...😆😆



the singhs knew fully well... the risk of ratan singh... who asked them to give shelter to ganga in the first place?? ganga herself?? naaa baba...

dey offered her helped bt wo usse utha kar haveli nai laye...she came to jaitsar on her own...jagya to bhool b gaya tha...



but because of the same ganga, jagya's life was saved as well... he was beaten black and blue... that was unfortunate... but zinda toh hai na banda?? thats what matters, ultimately... 😃

but because of same ganga, jagya was beaten black n blue...ab uski wajah se koi itna maar khaye to uski jaan bachani to banti h na boss...😉
jitna maara tha...wat if wo marr jata??? tab kya krti Ganga madam.???? n yup she saved his lyf bcoz she knew so many thngs abt nursing n dat was bcoz of whom?? jagya na??? so jagya saved his own life...😆😆😆😆😆 usse nurse bana kr...chalo kuch to fayda hua...


she is going away for nurse training isnt she?? how would she have known ratan would come BEFORE SHE WENT.. and who was supposed to capture ratan in the first place... how come they arent blamed for * ol problems* 😕


hmm as far as i rememba she wanted to leave asap fo nurse training juz aftr wen jagya n sanchi's marriage got fixed...she ws feeling jealous...she thot she cant bear the pain...apne ankhon k saamne dactar saab ko kisi aur ka hote kaise dekh skti thi...dats y she wanted to leave haveli...not coz she ws concerned abt Singh's safety...isnt it????


wow!!! bravo!! what a perception... mannu's father LOVES HIM?? he used to call him manhoos... it was only after he realised that his second wife was carrying a girl... did he show his 'anokha love' to mannu... 🤢


but remember reeli well...weneva his 2nd wife ws complaining against Mannu he used too say "maare chhore k bare me kuch na bolegi" so ab jb usko pata h uska ek akela waaris mannu h to obvio wo usse bht pyaaar krega...


i thought in both ways... but this post is just one way thinking... ganga is mean?? have u confused her with a character called Saachi?? tsk tsk...

then who shd be the D-I-L?? u and me?? 😉

lol Saanchi is vry insensible bt wateva logic she gives to sumitra against ganga is absolutely correct...😛 kabhi kabhi insensible log b sahi baat kar jate h...but neways i hate saanchi more dan Ganga 😡...m glad jagya will call off his wedding 👏👏👏👏
n which torture is more dangerous??? emotional or physical????
coz saanchi will torture singhs emotionally n ganga physically ( i mean his hubby will b comin back n back n attack n attack)...😕😕😕😕

n fo D-I-L gauri is perfect...if DS n Jagya cant have a change of heart...y cant CVs show that Gauri is also havin a new heart ❤️ 😆😆😆😆😆


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thank you Hooked for saying exactly what I was thinking. Bravo!!

I wonder if those who are so against Ganga, would readily give up their own child when faced with the same circumstanceS.

BTW, wasn't it rich of Shiv and Anandi to want to help the Dhobi woman who was being abused by her husband, but all these months did nothing like directling Ganga or guiding Singhs to direct Ganga to the right NGO's that could help her with her domestic situation. They were still in Jaitser in their sarpanch and collector capacity when Ganga and Mannu were rescued. Surely they could have put or delegated the placing of proper processes into motion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: katy:love



Hahahaha n who is Ratan Singh??? Ganga's Husband...den who is the Root????
ultimately Ganga
...😃

Wow!!!...how many likes u got for this post TM???...
u mean to say that people who beat their wives, murder them or rape them r not the root cause or problem..but people who r the victims of such cases r the problem???...i have never seen such immature post ever in IF...and posting this so proudly, starting with a "ha ha ha ha" and ending with a big smile!!...congo...👏

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