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Posted: 12 years ago
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It truly is strange. LalSingh told him Sumi is missing him so much that she is getting sick and it didn't bother J enough to even call and ask either at home or LalSingh to see if she is doing better.

But Shiv said - Anandi worried about your parents and ignored her parents for the sake of your parents and you abandoned them - and that somehow made sense to J ?

What does Anandi have to say about ehrself when her own mom missed her so much that she died ? Anandi had to bother about her in-laws so much that she ignored her own folks and did not even visit once to check on them. But Jagya has been gone for about a week and there has been tears and storming out and crying on Shiv and asking him to find J and going back and apologising and now making J feel guilty enough to go back.

They are J's family - let him do what he wants. Who is she to show J a mirror ? I hate feeling this way but Ms. Anandi is being glorified way too much. If she cares that is love, if she ignores that is duty ? And J has no rights over his own parents ?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks for the update..

There goes AnSh, the divine couple to enlighten Jagya, the usual miscreant. The singhs live in a combined family where they can take care of each other with or without anandi's or Jagya's help. I don't understand why she goes on and on about Jagya taking care of his parents as if they are too old and abandoned. And collector Saab, please don't lose your charm by dancing to anandi's tunes. She doesn't make sense many times.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This track which involved Jagya leaving home and hiding himself in a small village in the name of Prayascith is obvious now that it is meant for him to meet Ganga and set stage for the next step.
If he stayed in Jaitser he would not have come across Ganga. Now only he knows about the plight of Ganga and only he is the only person to whom she could turn to.Obviously her attachment to him will be understandable and acceptable after he manges to rescue her. It will also make it more realistic for the viewers and practical for him to conduct the rescue act from Haveli rather than from Laxmibag village where he is alone. CVs must be commended for this move.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks for the WU Payal...
The episode was too good... loved the way shiv asked Jagya's permission before he can talk... and only after he acknowledged he spoke...
Good to see atleast somebody showing him the mirror... Shiv spoke what we were saying... He is Escapist... who don't know how to face any situation... And Ansh have not interfered in Jagya's matters from the time of engagement till now... Its only when Jagya was in Jail and now that they spoke... Both due to the concern for DS and family...
This is Jagya's redemption track agreed... in the process DS is also heading towards depression due to Jagya... and anything happens to DS, again he will be blamed... As Ansh are concerned about family they did this...
There is a saying "If you don't have your own brains, use someone else" that is what Jagya did... He took decisions which turned his life upside down so now he thought of listening to them...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

This track which involved Jagya leaving home and hiding himself in a small village in the name of Prayascith is obvious now that it is meant for him to meet Ganga and set stage for the next step.

If he stayed in Jaitser he would not have come across Ganga. Now only he knows about the plight of Ganga and only he is the only person to whom she could turn to.Obviously her attachment to him will be understandable and acceptable after he manges to rescue her. It will also make it more realistic for the viewers and practical for him to conduct the rescue act from Haveli rather than from Laxmibag village where he is alone. CVs must be commended for this move.


Glad we agree on this completely. Yes - J may be in a position to offer more help to Ganga from his home place. 😊

Still unsure though, about why the CV's thought it was necessary to vilify him for going away and glorify them for his come back. They could have achieved this without Ansh interference. J could have thought on his own that - I can't do anything for her from here. Let me go back and arrange some help with some women's organization.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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payal..y r u crying!!
u got a fab epi!!😆


j got verbal slaps...😆

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Glad we agree on this completely. Yes - J may be in a position to offer more help to Ganga from his home place. 😊

Still unsure though, about why the CV's thought it was necessary to vilify him for going away and glorify them for his come back. They could have achieved this without Ansh interference. J could have thought on his own that - I can't do anything for her from here. Let me go back and arrange some help with some women's organization.

He thought he was doing prayaschith by staying away from home and his loved ones.I think many people believe that it is a way of doing prayascith for your wrong doings.May be the CVs wanted to show that it is not the right way.
Anandi had pointed out to him many times about his selfishness and tried to show him the error of his ways.But was he ever receptive?
Shiv had taken a class for him after he was thrown in for drunken and disorderly behaviour
Many a times he was shown the mirror but he refused to recognise himself because he was in a denial mode.
Now the time has reached where he realised he was wrong and he wanted to make amends for that but he did not seem to know how to go about achieving this objective.
This time when Shiv asked him why he left home he got FBs of AnSh wedding that's when he realised that it is the pain that he is running away from.
And when Shiv pointed out how A handled the pain it felt right for him so he accepted what Shiv had said and agreed to go back with them.
He is going back with them because what they said made sense to him.I don't see any glorification of AnSh here.For me it seems like J had seen sense and he accepts the truth even if it comes from his rival.I can only see a mature Jagya here.
This was the same Jagya a few months ago who wanted to take revenge against Shiv because he ticked him off for his drunk and disorderly behavior and had him thrown inside,

I see this as step forward for Jagya and I will be disappointed if he moves backwards.I am sure we will see lot of tears being shed by Jagya in the future because it will be painful but through this pain I hope to see a stronger J coming out.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahi12

I must say I am seriously disappointed because I do feel cvs once again successfully ruined another good track for Jagaya The track could have been very good and produced awesome results if they would have added one thing into it Jagaya keeping a connection with his family via telephone or even giving frequent visits to his house .Giving happiness to a family doesn't mean 24/7 glued to them No parent in the world worries for his / her child until they know they are safe and sound and are on the way to become a better person .They can bear all separation everything in an hope to see their child a successful person on his/ her terms , making them proud of him , one day a strong person on whose shoulder they can lean on in their old age .Here the question is not of Jagaya's penance only but he really needs to become a man on his merits just on his own terms something which his parents would be highly proud of so in my opinion . he was on the right path to redeeming himself This journey of his would have exposed him to the actual truths of life and also make him realize the worth/value of all that he had in the past. At the end of his journey the Jagaya standing in front of Singhs would have been more responsible and a reformed person who will truly be capable of taking care of his family. I am not asking cvs to spend years on this track but few months instead of just few days won't have cost them much in between they could have very well shown Jagaya interacting with the Singhs on a regular basis and at the same time stay independently for some more time.

Singhs were basically worried about his safety which he could have very well conveyed. Infact he could also meet them occasionally and put their concern to rest and it was also not forever track so why cvs finished it off in such a hurry?They could show Jagaya doing so much in this track in laxmibaagh village which he could make it the actual laxmibaagh and if finished off then why it has to be AnSh to deliver him lecture? why not someone from family come forward and take pride in the work he is doing and take him back home with them ?.it didn't make sense to me Shiv making him realize what place he holds for his family and down his fear he is not worth of his family It should be the work of his parents not Shiv.well seriously who is Shiv to deliver these sort of lectures to him His love story and his admiration in eyes of Anandi will always come on jagaya's costseriously why ruining this guy's redemption track and why ruining the family's reunion each time with Shiv 's interference

I am sorry but I do think AnSh are unnecessarily enforced in this track they were not required to deliver their lecture to Jagaya and make him come back home through their emotional lectures someone from Bhairo , Sumitra or DS should have been here that would have made much more sense Here all AnSh doesnt matter Jagaya is an important part of show why not let him do one work on his own he cant even start his penance in his way some others lectures are always required i don't think so these are forced

Anyways what can we say to cvs they have their own mind 🥱they like to do what came into their head Probably they thought track we have started but we really have to write a lot for it so why not save our time now I don't know when they will make Jagaya leave again and again AnSh will make him come back and Singhs will be very grateful to Shiv and Anandi will say Thank you collector Sahab and their love increases Not convinced at all


Thankful to cvs in one matter they used the tiny miny common sense and made Jagaya say he will pay visits to these poor places now they make him go or not at least we can assume and also glad he didn't forgot about Ganga and will give his helpline number to the servant

Precap one more family reunion hope this is last one and forever can I hope now it will be Jagaya who himself will bring cheer to his family regarding himself without any AnSh interference anywhere .AnSh can please live their own life and Jagaya his .I think its useless to hope this from cvs.🤢


sorry for my rant out but a very unnecessary episode for me ..Disappointed and same repetition of precap in a new situation after return from jail saga🥱

excellent post Mahi ..i agree with you completely thats why i am disappointed with episode as well cvs can always shines faults in whatever path Jagaya chooses and others deliver their gyaan and make him change his ways ...what Penance for a person he cannot chose his path for penance ? what was wrong in this way only cvs could add his interaction with his family why he couldn't converse with them via phone he was having problems with facing them meeting their eyes but on phone what was wrong he was worried for them so call them he tried once slowly would have produced other guts too but seriously what was wrong on way for self discovery ?even they could n't show much in his and Ganga's track in the village ..they could have shown him winning Ganga's trust in village to this extent at least when she calls him for help it looks realistic but no..what could have been a brilliant track that cvs finished it off in short cut with AnSh lecture to him come back what lecture that was forcing look at Anandi he said i'll back ..look at her expressions nahi abhi chlao😕shiv had to drag her out of there🥱cvs really didn't do fair here ..i must say .very very disappointed
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aparna, I will have to agree with you. Since J was already on the guilt mode it was easy for him to see a different side of the story – which Shiv highlighted.

He left home so that he could make his wrongs right, but I guess he didn't know how to go about achieving his objectives thereafter. Hence his step to go back to family and bringing happiness for everyone including himself is favorable.

Personally I did not want AnSh to convince him to go back, because I wanted J to be a decision maker here (earn his merits). But I guess this decision is still in J's favour and Shiv too. It will allow Anandi to focus on her personal life.

As a viewer, I was happy with J's decision to leave home, because if he hadn't he would got everything so easily. It would feel as if 'it doesn't matter how many mistakes he makes, he still gets all comforts in life.' But here the story is different. J chose a hard path for himself and the family respects his decision, but since they all need each other he is going back to family on AnSh insistence. Which is a win-win for everyone as of now.

I am still counting on today's episode. When J returns home today, I want him to have a heart –to heart convo with his family about his guilt, thoughts and reason behind that step. Something for which is family is respectful of his decision. I just don't want it to be another glorious moment for AnSh while Jagya just has to say sorry.

I hope CVs won't let me down in my expectation regarding Jagya.

And I truly hope going further, at least for a reasonable amount of time J and AnSh don't cross path. Not even in the name of goodness. Let the three have disconnected lives for a while.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Plus even after he said - give me half an hour to pack up - she looked at him like he was planning to run away.

What is she - his mother ? He said he'll meet them, let it go at that. If he wants to run away he can run away any time, did she plan on keeping him handcuffed for ever ?

Anandi assumes too much importance in being the 'daughter' of the house. She has other roles to play too. 2 of them being the recently acquired ones - a wife and a daughter-in-law. Maybe she can convert some of her extra love towards those areas. Itna saara pyaar on the Singhs - will suffocate them and drown Jagya for sure. 👎🏼

For the Singhs sake - she shud just leave them alone for a while. Let them bond again with J and be a family. Hope Shiv or ChhotiMa can explain the merit of that to her sometime.
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