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Posted: 12 years ago
#61
Jagya did a great job of confusing and waylaying Shiv. He seemed like the big bad wolf who asked sweet little red riding hood where she was going and went ahead to gobble up her (here Shiv's) happiness !

No matter how humane he is or how caring - given Jagya's past and Anandi's hurts and their recent promises of best friends and even more - the humsafar pledge he took whichshe very cutely accepted - he dishonored all those by not even confiding all this in her.

How can anyone be allowed to do that ? No matter what your doubts and how convincing a third person's logic is - YOU HAVE to TRUST your OWN !!!

Shiv had no business doing this "setting his love free" without consulting his love. J is nothing but a proven con man.

Hope Anandi will finally realize she needs to do something more than bow her head and touch everyone's feet for blessings. If she really wants Shiv - she will need to stake her claim and fight for her man.

Anandi needs to let Shiv and his family know that she is comitted and there is no going back.

All confusions are sown in silence and privacy - thats why you need to air out everything and weed your flower beds in the day.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Yes, ideally things didn't need to come to this point...but the writers want to set this up for high drama in a way of showing Anandi finally standing up for herself and making her choice LOUD and CLEAR for everyone to see and hear...so there is no room for ambiguity anymore...and I think writing-wise they did do a pretty convincing job today...I could understand why Shiv was forced to re-think...

Anandi DOES need this final closure...having these random things of Jagya's lying around and tending to a sick Jagya like this WILL leave room open for misunderstandings no matter how good hearted a person Shiv is...he's not even accusing her of cheating him...he's giving her that OPEN chance to make up her mind...letting her go completely so that she can finally make that LEAP...


@bold: So true. Totally agree with this. Anandi's emotions towards Shiv have never been shown till now . All her feelings are bottled up inside. There were so many situations where they could have shown her feelings. But, they setup everything for a huge drama. The thing that upset me the most was to get Anandi to confess they made Shiv go through a heartbreak.💔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: andv

Thanks for the update Payal.

What an episode or should I say what a monologue from J? His emotions, realizations and feelings keep changing with passing time. Just some time back he was harping on his realization that A was only his childhood friend and his true love was G and now he has been struck by this new realization that A was always the love of his life 😕. He is simply an opportunist and he cannot bear to see A happy with some one else. This is not love but sheer jealousy. Anyway J did not behave any differently from what I had expected from him, coz now nothing that he does surprises me.

Coming to Shiv, I will not completely blame him for believing what J had to say to him sply due to the way J put forth his thoughts and added the DS angle to it. On the other hand A did not get into the relationship wholehearted. She also made this very clear in her expressions and body language at the initial stages. She even told Shiv that if it was left to her she would not have agreed to the wedding all her life. All these go against S being assured that A is willingly entering this relationship.

Having said this I am disappointed with the fact that Shiv declared his decision of calling off the wedding without consulting anyone including A or his family. Yes he might have fallen for J's sermon but what stopped him from thinking from A's relationship with him? that is totally separate from what J and A shared. Presently she has come a long long way from where she started and is accepting S slowly and steadily. She might have not confessed that she loves him but she accepted his love for her. If nothing else, they are best of friends. Why couldn't he confide in this friend of his and try to see her side of the story? Why make assumptions about her feelings without even talking to her? Yes as J said, she might be principled and not want to cause injustice to any one but why does S forget that she is a very honest person and if he confided in her she would have revealed her true feelings. This is why I am disappointed in S coz he just overlooked this quality in his best friend.

Any way lets see how the story unfolds tomorrow.


If he discussed with A she would have reassured him that her future is with him like she had told him before.But in the light of J' s so called revelations he can never be sure whether it is out of sense of duty she is sticking with him despite loving J or her she is staying with him out of genuine desire to move on in life. He wants her to have choice.That can happen only if he calls off the wedding.If he discussed with her she would not allow this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: payalibm

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Thanks for update. Have full sympathy with you for torture u had undergone (watching J for almost entire episode)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smriti81


These googlies CVs keep throwing at us have me worried at times. 😡Taking care of her ex's laundry is part of A's job description as a resident of the haveli??? Considering that she now knows that both J & DS want her back as J's beendhni should she not keep a clear distance from anything to do with J. Have these guys not heard of making a clean break from rotten relationships!!!

Exactly, if A fails to keep her distances with J and does 't even air her feelings to Shiv clearly, then ofcourse Shiv is not wrong in falling for J's trap.
A has left enough evidences for S to think she may be happy with J. Also knowing how principled A is, it is easy for Shiv to believe that A will not back out on her own, so he chose to back out for her happiness.
And J has smartly taken advantage of loop holes in AnSh relationship to present his case.
I am so looking forward for A to speak up today or in coming episodes.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Arreyaar and aparna: I agree to both of you with all the points you have mentioned. Please don't remind me of the time when A rushed into the engagement and then put up a sad face in spite of S giving her an option of taking her time, that did not make any sense to me. The worst of them all was her catering to a supposedly sick J. I had taken a break from the show during that time coz it was unbearable. All these things are going against her for which she is solely responsible.

Coming to the point that I was trying to state: as I mentioned earlier, I do not blame S for giving into J's talk. When I say J's talk it is not what he said about the A S relationship but it was also about A still in love with him. He showed proof for the same too.

The facts:

1. A doesn't love Shiv (or may be has started loving him) and is slowly but steadily accepting him. This is not unknown to Shiv at all and he has been patient and receptive. Infact she has become far more receptive to Shiv and his feelings for her in the recent past. So yes she has left her past behind her.
2. She has very clearly told him that J is her past and S her future, which in itself says a lot about J's role in her life.
3. She doesn't express her feelings openly (which again I don't think is the right thing to do sply in the initial stages of your relationship), but that's how she is. She did mention this to S as well.

Please don't get me wrong, A has also done her bit to either create a reason for misunderstanding (although unintentional) or not done enough to prevent or clarify anything.

Lets of a minute remove A's feelings for S out of the picture and only talk about her feelings for J which J is trying to score brownie points on. She has moved on and will never want to go back to him. The old stuff in the suitcase was not kept in the store room by A. She had locked the suitcase and had asked Makhan to throw it away. It was DS who kept it in the store room. This is a major misunderstanding which S could have clarified IF he spoke to A. All this problem is happening only because of that suitcase for which A is not responsible.

If he asked A weather she still loves J and what's his place in her life, he would have surely got an honest answer. S has only asked her where he (S) stands in her life, not J's place in her life. Don't you think she would have honestly answered it? S very well knows how to dress his words in order to not hurt her feelings at the same time. This question was never valid till now since J was not in the picture. Now that he is back and wants to get into her life, this question does arise. He needs to know why A refused to go back to J on DS insistence from A's mouth and not from J's perspective. She will be honest about it.

The most important reason for the conversation is that S cannot make a decision on his own and reveal it in front of the family. Although his intentions were purely noble his method was incorrect. It involves the life of A too and the least he could do is discuss this with her and make a decision together rather than reveal it in front of both the families taking her completely by surprise. Like you have mentioned, this might have just been done to increase the drama and also a way for A to take a stand and voice her opinion. Unfortunately in an attempt to do so they just make their characters behave contrary to their nature.



Edited by andv - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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heartbreak can make a good man do insane things.. n to top it all if u feel u r a roadblock in ur beloved's life... its becomes a heart wrenching feeling..
n when heart is heavy over head.. then sometimes... even a sensible person can do drastic things ..

same is case with shiv... he could not bear the pain .. n felt that this is his sacrifice for love .. so just went ahead with it ...

cant blame him
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: andv

@Arreyaar and aparna:
The facts:

1. A doesn't love Shiv (or may be has started loving him) and is slowly but steadily accepting him. This is not unknown to Shiv at all and he has been patient and receptive. Infact she has become far more receptive to Shiv and his feelings for her in the recent past. So yes she has left her past behind her.
2. She has very clearly told him that J is her past and S her future, which in itself says a lot about J's role in her life.
3. She doesn't express her feelings openly (which again I don't think is the right thing to do sply in the initial stages of your relationship), but that's how she is. She did mention this to S as well.

Please don't get me wrong, A has also done her bit to either create a reason for misunderstanding (although unintentional) or not done enough to prevent or clarify anything.

Lets of a minute remove A's feelings for S out of the picture and only talk about her feelings for J which J is trying to score brownie points on. She has moved on and will never want to go back to him. The old stuff in the suitcase was not kept in the store room by A. She had locked the suitcase and had asked Makhan to throw it away. It was DS who kept it in the store room. This is a major misunderstanding which S could have clarified IF he spoke to A. All this problem is happening only because of that suitcase for which A is not responsible.

If he asked A weather she still loves J and what's his place in her life, he would have surely got an honest answer. S has only asked her where he (S) stands in her life, not J's place in her life. Don't you think she would have honestly answered it? S very well knows how to dress his words in order to not hurt her feelings at the same time. This question was never valid till now since J was not in the picture. Now that he is back and wants to get into her life, this question does arise. He needs to know why A refused to go back to J on DS insistence from A's mouth and not from J's perspective. She will be honest about it.

The most important reason for the conversation is that S cannot make a decision on his own and reveal it in front of the family. Although his intentions were purely noble his method was incorrect. It involves the life of A too and the least he could do is discuss this with her and make a decision together rather than reveal it in front of both the families taking her completely by surprise. Like you have mentioned, this might have just been done to increase the drama and also a way for A to take a stand and voice her opinion. Unfortunately in an attempt to do so they just make their characters behave contrary to their nature.



Anita-
He was very emotional during the encounter but afterwards he came and spent time thinking about it.
He didn't think she was lying to him about wanting to be with him.He just saw her as compromising with life resigned to he fate.To him right from the way she proposed to him till the time of engagement when she hesitated before putting the ring on his finger everything screamed reluctance to get into a relationship with him.All their relationship post their engagement looked like she was adjusting to a life that she has been forced into.
In his internal dialogue he felt he saw honesty in J's eyes which he has not seen before.That's why he took J's word.J also said if you love her free her.So he setting her free.

If S refused the marriage A will be free of the promise that she made to her mother.So it will set her free in those terms also.

So he was using his heart and mind which were synchronous with each other


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Posted: 12 years ago
#69
look at the bright side..now anandi will finally confess to what she feels abt shive in front of the whole wide world and also what a sleazebag jagya is...God, he repulses me..am actually hay for gauri tht she moved off from his life..even she deserved better frankly..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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heading was very very very appropriate

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