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Posted: 15 years ago
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...........actually the whole thing of fake pregnancy is so confusing.......
what did DV & Maata g think.....that A had a one night stand in meerut?
......soon after Radhey death? .....and Bhashan queen gave in??......

.......ok so maybe DV is so insecure in love & with the sword of A leaving him
hanging on his head .......he is afraid of any & everything....so fell for this silly jaal thrown by puny....
........but so unlike DV.....and then of course the panchayat thing ......
........Cvs need to do some damage control.......and spin this another way



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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Sin - fantastic topic 👏 👏

DV started of as one helluva selfish character. He got what he wanted by charm, fear, manipulation, or force (wat's the hindi saying saam-daam, dhand, bhed). And nobody and nothing could touch him.

But, Amoli slowly n surely became his Achilles' heel...at first it was lust, but the more she fought the greater grew his obsession to the point where he prioritizes her and his need for her above everything else... in the beginning, he didn't want his passion intervening wit his personal/family life...later he didn't give a damn...so, he sacrificed first Chandana ka future then later Urmilla n radhe, his most loyal gadhe, to his obsession...marriage to Amoli made him secure on the level that he thinks that she is legally his & can't be anybody else's now...so, the battle is purely btwn himself n Amoli and btwn them, he is willing to sacrifice himself for her (be it poison or jail or letting go spend life alone). The only person who can come btwn them is Amoli ka willpower not even his shadow na...

At the first mahapanchayat, he was distracted with the impact his actions may have on Amoli and kinda indifferent except to ensure that he retained his power. So, he let the woman's husband set her punishment... In the second instance, as he admitted to his mother - he choose the option that protected his junoon/obssession/chahaat... the one thing he cannot loose...

In the 3rd instance, I think he was blindsighted by Puny n namak- haram Dhaani. He would have picked up on Dhaani's imminent betrayal on the phone had Amoli's presence (entering the room) not distracted him. The thought of her pregnant by someone else was also weighing on him whether he wanted to admit or not. Also, Amoli herself eroded his power at the panchyat by having them stone him at the last one... So, his power before the panch was muted by her.... Had they truly started throwing then he would have fought them on a physical level by himself like a sher protecting cub because he distractedly fell into Puneet-Dhani ka chakraview... (Personally think CVs made mistake becoz they want him for now to retain the softy image...if janwar comes out then bye bye Amoliji)

Later at the mansion, he was in full force (power back) becoz 1) He or rather Amoli was in the right n 2)He has time to punish them at leisure now whilst he did not have that luxury in the moment at mahapanchayat.

As for mataji n DV - they hav oddd relationship where she sets down the law wit him n he defies it if it doesn't suit him...they r kinda turn a blind eye to each other's misdeeds outta respect/love

His acceptance of her baby was a smart move to ensure she did not leave him for the baby daddy

Also, note he tortured Puny in private not before Amoli, who prefers his softer side
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Posted: 15 years ago
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P.S. ..if ghade return then DV will have quandry (Amoli or her respect/attraction for "reformed" DV). If he opts for the later then he will gamble on her growing softness for him 😈 If he opts for the former then we will have Mr. Devil a la Bairi Piya in full force (my preference) 😈 😈 😈
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Originally posted by: oh-wow

.....back from the pakora session........

.......no no they won't butcher the character......re.panchayat session........you will find out later on that Amoli was never ever in danger.........he had her well covered .......by some means.....i don't know
what......and he was aware of all the angles.....behaved the way he did for a bigger gameplan
.......just my thoughts....

....remember we all thought Amoli sent him to jail when she came from meerut.....
and he gave those mindblowing dialogues.....but it was a ploy

......back to Radhey from the Dead- i don't think he will even let the panchayat debate it
........he will take command and set her free......completely knowing that she doesn't want her
freedom anymore......what a DEVIL.....and hence Bairi Piya..

.......Radhey dead or alive was defanged and not a threat ,,but Amoli has to know that....

.....i too loved that scene when he slits puny's arm....Amoli aag hai.....and then later
on the style with which he gets down from the car to punch the jailor....just so loved it.



I hope this happens man....him having Amoli covered...that would be something that would put me in peace reagarding his character.....otherwise its just doesnt fit ....u know what i mean na 😕
About Amoli sending Dv to jail.....i knew he was too powerful to be in jail......😆i actually had arguments with my sister about this....she thought that he was in jail for real...and i was like he cant be...he is too smart for that😆....infact the whole Ronnie thing...we argued about that tooo.....i believed from the beginning that, that Devil acting as Mr romeo (my name for Ronnie) and she opposed the notion😆...and i was rt......but rt now h should have acted when Amolis life was in danger......he just cant...CANNOT...risk her life for any reason.......i know i m being extremely vehment about this....hope Cvs prove me wrong....i would love it😆 would love ur predictions to come true😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Sin - i didn't buy the Ronnie thing becoz they were never in the same frame together especially not after that dynamite scene where he tells her that he will come at her in an unexpected way as he goes wit the police... uffff that was an amazing episode 👏

And he knows that Amoli lyks his "Ronny" Romeo (love this tag) persona, so he is being "Ronny" these dayz 😉 The way he flirts wit her, but makes her the one in the "wrong" n himself the "victim" 😆 😆 😆
Edited by AnjanaToronto - 15 years ago
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Hey all i know its a bit 2 l8 but was a bit busy...shopping n all 😛 it really is such a sunny day here in London 😃
Hi Pri...not at all...m trying to keep this disvussion alive till the episode airs...or evenafter that 😃...i m glad u had a nice warm day...ughh it was gloomy again here.
Maheen or sin wot u do prefer?? umm a very intriguing post indeed
u may call me anything u like....as of rt now i m liking Sin more....it goes with my fascination with the Devil😆😈 i m glad u liked th post
N afta reading all d responses i have a few thoughts dey may seem a bit random but well here goes...........
I agree wiv u all on some parts n disagree on some
Ist panchayat: i think DV was just tryin 2 keep villagers in control making sure he pleases d masses so he is looked upon as God n feared. But he very cleverly manipulated d situation so that if eva he is questioned (which no1 has d guts 2 do so but.....😆) he can say he let d hubby of d woman decide n is not involved.
But do u guys remember d way he was lookin up at Amoli n she was lookin at him during dat entire scene.........he was definitely not happy coz Amoli wasnt happy wiv d whole business.......he was picturing her burnin so was unhappy n also wen d woman dies he did feel bad as his body language showed...........all coz of Amoli 😆
Agreed...he was trying to keep his power...more like he never leaves any opportunity to increase his power....there is of course no doubt that he was disturbed by the implications....but not enough to stop him in his intentions😉...and like he himself said that.....ke he always leaves a loophole or wiggle room for himself to get out of....so thats y his decision to let the man decide to punish his wife.
so the act of his may hav seemed devilish n he was 1 at that tym but he didnt want 2 b 1 ...........does that even make sense???
Kinda 😆...one Dvian to another😉
Now 2nd panchayat : He shows how much he can bow down 2 d woman who he evidently h8s (read Madhura) coz of his beloved Amoli. He agrees 2 madhura coz he cannot bear 2 c Amoli die so once again coz of Amoli DV subsides his hatred n devilness but not destroying it
i say that coz at that point Amoli was his junoon n he didint wanna lose her so agrees 2 madura but wen he said 2 her at d foot of d stairs dat dis tym u hav won d battle of relationships or sumtin lyk dat u can c how much he had 2 crush his devilness n power 2 say those lines so DV still in his initial character brief
valid point.....he is of course in his character.....its a huge blow to his ego to be deafeted but....no matter how much angry he is....he never looses sight of his goal....and he knows when to pick and choose his battles.....and y fight and loose on aomeone else terms...when u can call it a temporary truce and fight on ur own terms😃
But dis last panchayat: 😡 has really disappointed me....... whether or not he had Amoli covered how cud he take on such a big risk??? I felt he is losin his character...... d guy who used Dipsy as a boxing bag beatin him black blue purple red n wot not 😆 when he slapped Amoli n who hit that jailor so much just for holdin her hand n cut of Puneets arm 4 attempt 2 rape or beat Radhe blue black purple etc wen eva he came close 2 Amoli ........do u remember dat nutcracker scene i really thought ke bas ab radhe ke fingers to gayi......... he out ov all peeps listened 2 d death announcement so silently
all of us man...i think its the CVs fault to show Devil so helpless...he is extremely formidable...he cant be cowed and seen helpless like that😕
Wot happened 2 his strong conniving mind he cud hav done so much..........2 Puneet esp.......... ok agreed he has reformed n is a saint who is truly n purely in love wiv Amoli but he still retains d old devil DV doesn't he ? n we all know dat devil can resurface wen eva he wants ...........also he didnt hav 2 becum d hardcore devil again but glimpses of it 2 show dat he not a bheegi billi wud hav been enuf
If he is tryin 2 show 2 amoli dat he aint d old DV n has changed ...but even she knows dat woteva he did was 4 her n his love 4 her rite? Amoli's presence really drains her hubbies be it radhe or DV 😆
so should we name the Bhashaan queen Parasite now.....sucking the life force outta whoevr sh is married too 😆
Has he becum so helpless in front of d panchayat n Amoli n Puneet of all peeps coz even afta wen he goes 2 c him 2 taunt him i lyked his old style but Puneet needs action words aint gonna do anytin
I think he takin a break n we saw glimpses of original thakur in fri epi n hopefully will c more afta d entry of Radhe 😍
Now as 4 Radhe he can make DV stay good n let her decide n make Amoli slowly realise how much she does love him n how badly she judged Radhe
Or
Radhe can attempt but not succeed ovcourse in making Amoli his again or take revenge n both can make full blown Evil-Devil DV 2 keep wot it ritefully his 😉 or there is the possibility that he doesnt let radhe take Amoli but does not turn Devil stays as he is
So 4 Radhe im not sure how DV will handle d situation it will depend on Radhe's intention n obviously CVs intentions
😉
I am all for Evil-Devil 2....actually waiting with bated breath 😆.......and seriously it was so much easier to speculate what the old evil Devil would have done...but this Bheegi Billi is ughh...so confusing 😕....if he was his old self...(still hoping he retains that *quality* 😆) he would never ever let Amoli go...nomatter what the cost...and keep her with him by hook or by crook.😈...BTW loved reading ur opnions....keep writting😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ohh Anj thats was such a brilliant scene....i think i have seen that one like 30 times...its so grt....shows Devious Deewana devil at its best...i just loved loved it.....the madness in his eyes was amazing....Sharad deserved an award for that performance👏👏..
😆 she is eating it up, isnt she?.....😆 the Mr Romeo avatar....it is so much easier for her to accept him as Ronnie...no matter how much she denies it....i guess as Mr Romeo...Devil is less challenging to her....challenging her morals and self-righteous beliefs....i guess its easier to fall or agree to marry Ronnie then the Devil himself...😆😆...okay i cant really explain what i m talking about...but seems like Devil is performing a social experiment on her😆......apply different theories and see whioch works...😆....if she like Mr Romeo...he will be Mr Romeo, the flirty sassy guy😆...otherwise fool proof Gadhey is always there na....he can always pretend to bhi Gadhey her protective instincts will come into play....but loved how u put it...that he presents as if she is the one who is doing wrong to him....thats even fab👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sin,

No doubt about it...he has been experimenting wit her from day one 🤣🤣 - money, fear, power, trickery,.... only formula that worked was Ronnie, so he has returned to it 😆 😆



N Ronnie had 'morality'market cornered wit his pseudo-liberal bhasans n she totally ate it up... likewise these days he has her in the 'wrong' 😆 😆
Edited by AnjanaToronto - 15 years ago
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HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY Mahiiiiiiiii Janiiiiiiiiiiiiiii............................

hi Deebs😃
though late but since ths discussion is abt my darlin dv so i definately cant stay quiet and let it go like tht.......... so wud try my best 2 post my views abt all the reponses 2 ur posts.
dont worry...its never too late.....any opinion about the Devil is always awesome to read so do keep thm coming 😃

1. Darlingggggggg again i wud insist him nt 2 called as bheegi billi plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............ He is Shair jooooooo salakhon k peeche chala jaye tu b shair hi rahe gaaaaaaa................. All his suffering is and has been due 2 amoli................. remember when he bowed 2 madhura, when she put amoli on the line.............. dv criedddddd and did tell maaata g tht he became helpless when tht behuda aurat ( madhura ) put amoli on the line.......... He was a true devil then but still cried and accepted tht he became helpless.

Ohh Deeds honey....dont mind us calling Devil bheegi billi...we lurveee him....but we cant stand this butchering of his character...its not us...its the CVs....they made him into the Jello man...thats why the title Bheegi Billi 😆 waisey i have another suggestion...i m pretty sure u wont like it...magr pir bhi i will let u decide...😆😆...how about Tinker Bell???......acha haina?😆😉....Jk
oh we all accept that Devil do pick and choose to fight his battles...but it is v hard for him to swallow his pride...hence that scene ofhim crying and confessing.....thats y we love him so much that he can go beyond any lengths imaginable for Amoli.😃
2. The women burning scene shud b viewed clearlyyyy as he was completelyyyy confused and didnt want 2 let the women burn at all. Villagers did realize his hesitation so threatened him regarding his kursi and sharap over the village............ he was definatelyyyyyyy helpless and when he had a glance at amoli........... he became further scared of ths punishment. His fear and hesitation in actually burning the girl was clearly visible from his face and he then let it b the decision of the husband.............. He was a true devil then ............. still hesitated.................
i actually think that he didnt really cared about that woman at all...he just cared about his power in front of the villagers and his image in front of Amoli...as i have stated in my previous post...i of course agree with u that he was kinda disturbed for Amoli's sake...he cant ever let that happen to Amoli...which is v much in his character.

3. Rememebr when amoli was marrried 2 radhey and dv made an entry and then left in the end posing as if he has been defeated by bhashan queen...................... he did pose as being helpless. Soooooo he can b wht he want and whenever he wants.

that is the part that gives me so much hope...that he can be what he wants to be and whenever he wants to be....i ❤️ this thought😃 but over there he already had a plan...and i kinda guessed it too...i mean those shady fake sasural waley (Amoli's) were enough to warn me that its Devils chaal😆
4. When he was at the verge of getting wht he wanted ( the rape scene ) he left her and became helpless.......... he was actuallyyyyy pleading her 2 fulfill her promise tht she made regarding her submission 2 him ..................... he was helpless............. i believe controlling amoli with tht little piece of sharpened glass wasnt a big deal for our dv but still he left................... he became helpless.....................
i actually have a different opinion about that scene....Devil was not helpless at all...he was in Love...however twisted it was..it is true love...so true love will never allow u to force ur self upon ur loved one....once again here Amoli was only threatened by herself....could have gone away from him.....forever (death) and he cant let that happen...it was the Death threat that actually made him think....her safety came first....he cannot jeoperdize her safety ever...not even for his own self....taht is exactly my point here....walking away from Amoli that day was not the act of Bheegi Billi...rather it requires a huge amount of will power and self control which he did...only a Devious Devil like him could have done it...and i was extremely glad for that😃...on a random note....i didnt ever think that Devil could force himself upon a woman...thats not his style......he doesnt want a physical win...he wants utter total control...over her mind, body and soul....is she surrenders herself to him of her own accord...dont u think that would be an extremely heady victory for the Devil.....that he can charm a woman out of her wits...thats what he wants and thats why he is one of his kind😃

SO darlingssssssssss ! there r numberless moments when he has been handicapped butttttttt all these situations involve amoli one way or another................... He has been transformed so obviouslyyyyyyyyyyy level of helplessness wud differ.

No matter how many times he has been shown hadicapped as u put it....he has always put Amoli's safety beyond anything....and he is willing to die or kill for her.....using every resource he got...so that 28th July scene just doesnt fit....coz he always looses from Amoli or for Amoli...but never lets anything harm her.....and during that scene she was sentenced to death and Dv just stood there...desperate...not able to do anything...out of character dont u think so???

Last but nt the least???????. If u luv sumone ???? luv 2 the core. So I luv him and luv all his avataarsssssssssssss???????? He will turn into anyyyyyyyy according 2 the situation so plzzzzzzzzzz hav faith in him .

oh we love him 2 honey...never doubt that...thats why were here storming up a discussion...its just i will call a cat a cat if it acts like one and call it a mouse when it acts like a mouse...doesnt mean that i m denying that its a cat....rather the mannerism is so out of character that i m forced to question it....i hope explained it well.....sorry its extremely jumbled in my mind😳

Now??????. Cuming 2 ur question regarding the new entrant????

Hmmmmmmmmmmm ??? ! yar I believe tht he will let her goooooo bcoz he does accept tht amoli luves radhey ??? Ths way amoli will fall for him 2 the core and yeappppppp he will b into his aggressive self when Mr Gadhey ( if he is the new entrant ) will try 2 b physical or handy with now nt so comfortable with him amoli?.. V will c blastssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ???..

Aisa mera dil bolaaaaaaaaaaaaa

cool...u think so...i just dont think he will ever let her go.....never ever...not for any reason...actually i want him to never let her go😆😈
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Originally posted by: jagrutid

hiya there love the topic and thank for using "mr softy" in your topic title feel like i contributed abit with the name😛😉. But i think your words are kind of what is going through all are minds. im beginning to think that the creatives have left a bit of a loop whole when it comes to dvs character. its like his character contradicts himself. i.e in the panchayat he was helpless but when the panch party came to apologize he was all harsh with them same with dadi ma or his mother - he said nothing to her when she went and spillt the beans to amoli yet in fridays episode he was fuming at her ghar ki issat comment.
i'm kind of loosing perception of dv now..i cant see weather he is thakur dv..power, stature, dominance or just amoli's lover..well wana be lover?? -- i don't seem to understand the idea?? are they trying to show that there is a mix of dv like a side which is thakur dv..dominant and a side which is only amolis digvijay? or has he totally gone soft in love?? changed and left the thakurpan for good. ?? too much thinking about it really and Ive not really left you with an answer just more questions /😉

Hi jags...loved reading ur opinion...I loved that name Mr softy...the first time i read it i was laughing so much...thanks for that awesome name😃😆
hmm i think thats what all of us are thinking...hence this post...i m really confused too...i just cant guess what his next move will be....about him yelling at the panch party...*meh* nothing of the sorts as old Devil would hav done...would have made them pay triple lagaan or something...but nothing....him and his maata ji are like thunderheads will keep colliding and making noise....but Devil is like a force of nature...unstoppable...so Maata ji will only add fuel to the fire and be an empty nothing much......i always thought she kinda symbolized his subdued Moral side...or super ego...so no matter whenever she wakes up...he crushes her beneath his feet....does that make sense???😕
I m loosing DV perception too.....i mean i was sooo sure that he would kick panchayats a$$ and prolly kill Puny....at least brutally torcher him...break out the nutcracker...magr nahi😕....BTW those are the same questions going through my mind as well......confusion conference😕

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