Nazar v/s Nazariyaan : Ram and Priya [* Pages: 1,8,9,11] - Page 9

Originally posted by: SEA05

That makes a lot of sense, dear. We have come to the moment when we will see how, due to one single, but very important push, with the help of Krish, a long-term stone of pain and uncertainty will collapse

I was going through the connection between Ramayana and Mahabharata and came across multiple interesting reads. There are characters who appear both in Ramayana and Mahabharata ... I hope CVs play their cards smartly

If the authors can tie everything together neatly, it will be a really big job.

Originally posted by: tirchinazar

You deserve all compliments dear. You, Doc and Ritz are the best things that happened to me due to BALH2 ❤️

You bet! I am so happy that I returned to IF and found you three. I look forward to coming here and talking and discussing and having fun at the same time. We share so many common interests. We should keep in touch after the show is over and by then we should find a way to do so. Don't you think so?

"Bhed and Bhediya"

In the episode, Krish explained to Ram that everyone has an enemy, and they are always lurking around whether you are aware of them or not. In the same episode, we saw Mahendra Sood attempt to kidnap his own daughter unsuccessfully, but at the same time, we got a peek at his consciousness. We witnessed Krish being MS’s subconscious. Their dialogues were mirror images of each other.

Krish: "Dushman sab ke hote hain, woh dikhayi nehin dete lekin woh hote zaroor hai."

MS: "Ek bhediya (wolf) bhi jinda bacha toh bhede (sheep) apna jaan nehin bacha payenge."

When I heard these dialogues, the first thing that came to my mind was ‘wolf in a sheep’s clothing.’ Of course, if any wolf is alive, it will kill the sheep. So, I started my search for all the lurking wolves in plain sight. Wolf, is a hunter, a predator, is attached to a negative connotation.

In the same way, sheep, prey, an innocent animal whose predator always hunts, is attached to a positive connotation. That’s it! That is what we see. So, I concluded to have a quest for a ‘wolf in a sheep’s clothing’ or wolves in sheep’s clothing. But where will I start? I was looking at the blank wall.

I started with names; let me write all the characters’ names, and with the help of so many wonderful IF friends (I hope I can call you that), I finished the name, number, and their meanings. I found the wolves, but then there was still something missing. One puzzle that is not fitting in the whole story is how the prey and predators are linked. So why do we see Krish and Akki with Nandini? How can they be in the same group?

Even though I posted the answer on this EDT, my heart was not satisfied. Then I asked you to give me the full details of the names; I started the calculations and grouping again. What I found was mind-boggling. Wait, I find Ram in a double number (44) which is a powerful healer. I found Sandy also in the number 44. I found Shashi in the number 44. That was a big reveal to me. But, yes, there is always a but; like Leo Tolstoy wrote in Anna Karenina, why is 'Aditya Shekhawat' grouped with Shubham and Sahil Babbar? Adi, Ram’s confidante, cannot be a wolf. How? Why? He is not in sheep’s clothing. He is our Valmiki and this is already established. He always narrates Ram’s story, and he is Ram’s pillar.

Am I missing something was my thought process? Then I went back to the dialogues again. I knew it was bothering me from the first time I heard it. I also messaged Tirchi that very day when I heard it. I mentioned on the forum that a wolf is a sheep’s clothing metaphor, but why am I not confident about it? Why is it not fitting in our story?

This is what I wrote to @Tirchi that day.

"Did you notice MS's language? He said if the wolf is alive then the sheep will not be able to save themselves. Does he want to save the wolf or kill the wolf? So, who is wolf and who is sheep?"

After writing to her, I forgot about it. But it haunted me, and you all know me by now and my stubbornness. I am a pure Taurean. I am a bull. Why would MS say that all sheep will be dead if any wolf is alive? Aren’t the wolves alive? Shashi, Varun, Nandini, Vedika, MS, Sanjeev? What am I missing here?

I was missing the essential factor, Nazar vs. Nazariyaan.

There is NO 'a wolf in a sheep's clothing" metaphor here. We were looking at it all wrong.

I asked for help from you all again. Please give me all the fairy tales, moral stories, fables, whatever you can. You all showered me with stories either through DM or by posting them on the forum. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. ❤️ You all are a darling. This is how teamwork is supposed to be. We all have cracked this code. Do you want to know now?

The "Bhed-Bhediya" story goes like this. [I will post the tenth standard link at the bottom.]

In a forest, when the wolves figured out that the sheep outnumbered them, they were depressed that the sheep would take over the land and they would lose their authority. Then, one day, one depressed wolf was sitting near the meadow, and then an old jackal ran into him. Jackal, as we know, is very sly, but they are also very intelligent. Even though he knew the answer, the jackal asked the wolf why he was depressed. The wolf told him his reason, and the jackal offered his help. He proposed a plan to the wolf to win the election run by sheep, and they take authority over everyone. The jackal asked the wolf to meet the next day.

The next day, the jackal brings with him three more jackals. He colored one jackal yellow, another jackal blue, and the last one green. He mentioned that the yellow jackal is very knowledgeable, the blue jackal is a journalist, and the yellow jackal is religious. He also changed the wolf’s look by making him soberer. He told the wolf not to speak in front of the sheep. These three jackals will do all the campaigning. Then the jackals started campaigning, and the old jackal convinced the sheep that the wolves had changed. The three colored jackals, with their tricks and knowledge, convinced the sheep to vote for the wolf. As we can predict, the wolves won the election. After winning the election, the wolf declared their first bill on behalf of all wolves. They will have a lamb for breakfast, a sheep for lunch, and half a sheep for dinner.

What do the jackal get here, you ask? All the jackal wanted was the bones from the left-over food the wolves would devour.

Now, who is the wolf, and who is the sheep in our story? Nazar vs. Nazariyaan.

Let’s look at MS’s dialogue again.

Did you notice MS's language? He said if the wolf is alive then the sheep will not be able to save themselves. Does he want to save the wolf or kill the wolf? So, who is the wolf, and who is the sheep?

We know the wolves are alive so why would he kidnap a sheep, Pri? What if we are looking at it all wrong? The whole story above started with the control over a forest. In BALH 2, the entire story starts with the control over a LAND.

The sheep outnumbered the wolves. VOILA. The wolves we are thinking are not the wolves and the sheep we are thinking are not the sheep. This is a revenge story.

If even one wolf is saved, then no sheep will be alive. One wolf went to the jackal for help. Jackal got 3 other jackals to help the wolf.

Yellow jackal – knowledgeable

Blue jackal – journalist

Green jackal - religious

Remember this dialogue of Kunal – “yeh jung hum jeet gaye.” “yeh battle tha, war nehin.”

Then in the Shivratri puja, the pundit said to Sandy – “Meeraji, aap ki choti beti toh bahut vidwan hai.”

Then last but not least, Ram told Krish – “Chalo milte hai, iss baar teri muh dikhayi ho hi jaye” and “Mere dad ke case mein tum meri madat kaise karoge? Journalist ban kar ya private investigator ban kar.”

So, who is who?

'The Wolf' is Ram Kapoor

4 jackals

Old Jackal – Mahendra Sood

Yellow Jackal - Sandy

Blue jackal – Krish

Green Jackal – Meera maa

The sheep involved in the murder: Goliath is the one who was killed [probably Kumar/Babbar]

7 Sheep – Nandini, Vedika, Neeraj, Shashi, Varun, Mama, Mami

5 pack of wolves - Adi, Bri, Kunal, Vik, Pri

Sheep > Wolves

Yesterday, Pri started handling the campaigning, I mean investigating, and Ram was made SILENT; He was advised not to speak to the sheep at the dining table. Do you see it now? 😊

And we have David (Ram) and Goliath's story. [and Ram is also a shepherd like David, and that’s why I said David defeated Goliath; hence Ram is also David.]

745: 7 sheep, 4 jackals, 5 wolves

13.5: Ishaan as established.

We are still thinking about 55.185.

I was shaking last evening when I finally realized it. I couldn’t type a single line.

P.S I am sorry for the grammar mistakes as I didn't proofread them, and I will edit them after some time.

https://boyshighschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Class-10_Hindi_Worksheet1.pdf

Sea,

I forgot to tag you. Please read the above post.

Thanks for tagging me, it's so exciting!

If, together with your thoughts, we came to wolves and jackals, then we see that both jackals and wolves, even if they are in some teams, are still all different. And sheep too.

This can mix things up and start moving our heroes from one team to another, either sincerely or with purpose.

Nandini can become a wolf, even a jackal can become a wolf (Mira ma, in which the toothy protector of the right will finally wake up), and wolves pretending to be sheep in order to save another wolf (Ram's friends may one day go against falsely to save him). This may be needed if Shashi and MS stage another attack. Or even not so: if they think of it, one of our wolves will find out and pretend to be a traitor in order to kill the death plan.

At the same time, the wisest wolf is Priya, who will watch the young wolf - Ram (it's not about age, you understand) and others, so as not to attack, but to clear the forest (land) in one main step, stop revenge. As a forest orderly (in our country, this is what they call wolves, knowing what their nature is).

The distant sound of the waves reaching their ears. Theirs, Ram and Priya.

‘Are your eyes closed, Pri-a?’

‘Yes.’

‘What do you hear?’

‘I hear the sound of the waves; what about you?’

‘I hear the albatrosses.’

‘Albatrosses?’

‘Why, all of a sudden?’

‘Not sudden. They are here.’

‘Who?’

‘My parents.’

‘Your parents? Albatrosses?’ ‘Why albatrosses? What is so special about them?’

‘Because no one can love like them.’

‘Do they? I thought we are. Can we be like them?’

‘Why not? After all, we have their blessings. The way they fought for each other, sacrificed their love for families, they truly mated for life.’

‘Yes, they did, indeed.’

It has been forty years since the albatrosses are separated—a tragic love story in a socio-divisive patriarchal society. A wealthy scion falls in love with a middle-class girl, and the families disregard their affectionate relationship. A story of revenge, a story of Machiavellian tactics; a story of betrayal; a story of a brother and a sister.

At the party, we see Akki and Ram in blue and Pri in black. When we saw Akki in blue, we realized he played VK and Pri as Ram’s mom. Pri comes dressed not in the party theme, so Akki gives her a sequined scarf. When she put it on her, Akki said – “Didi, aap itna chamak rahi ho naa, mujhe kuch dikhaye nehin de raha hai. You’re looking like a shining star. Jiju needs a black glass because you’re shining so much.”

Just then, she saw Ram, and she went to meet him. Looking at her pretty face, he couldn’t help but be playful. He started searching for the dark glasses not to blind his eyes. He said – “Hum sab toh ain bain lag rahe hai, taare hote hai naa sky mein, aur tum, asli wala chand jis par koi daag naa ho.”

The party started with the song – “Tamma Tamma loge.” The lyrics of the song are fascinating. The new version fits with BALH 2 perfectly. Let’s break it. RR is the past with the reverse Ramayan, and FR is the future or present with the forward Ramayan. Ram and Priya and the current generation are correcting the previous generation's mistakes.

Tu premi main premi

Tu razi main razi

Phir kya daddy kya amma

Ek bas tu hi pyar ke kabil

Sara jahan hai nikamma

Past (RR): Ram's parents are in love, but their families disagree with their relationship. His parents decided to rebel and fight for their love. But fate had other agendas.

Correction in the present (FR): In the same way, Shivi and Akki were in love, and they rebelled against their families to be together.

Woh badal gaya

Past (RR): Ram’s paternal grandmother discarded the proposal for the marriage. You may ask, why not nani? Here are the pieces of evidence:

1. When Ram and Pri were in the parking lot arguing over the other night, Krish knocked on the window. Then we hear Ram – “main haath nehin chod raha, bas” and see Pri release her hand from Ram’s clutches.

2. Ram - “Lekin meri mom ki kisi cheez se tumhein takleef ho Priya yeh mujhe manzoor nehin. Yeh kangan toh tumhein utarne honge Priya, mujhse jyaada ziddi nehin ho tum.”

3. Today, when Nandini was accusing Pri for taking away her son, she said – “Ram aap ka hi rahega.”

Did you notice she didn't say Mr. Kapoor? She said Ram is your son and will always be. You and your family will always come before me. I will not take anything from this family. That’s when Ram’s mom decided to part ways with Ram’s dad.

Correction in the present (FR): This time Akki put forward a condition of Pri’s marriage before his. The false alarm of Shivi’s pregnancy drove Ram and Pri’s wedding. Shivi and Akki were married this time with the blessings of both families.

Bin bajati hui naagin

Past (RR): As we have witnessed in the present, how Nandini planted Anjali and Vedika to break Ram and Pri’s marriage, Ram’s dadi also planted a golden deer into the life of Ram’s parents. Evidence:

1. We go to the episode where Nandini advised Shubu to befriend Akki. “Akki ko apne best friend banao, uss se nazdikiya badhao taki waqt aane par Akki tumhari baat sune, tumhari side le, uss ki nahi jo tumhare bhai ke behenke rishte ko todna chaati thi. Samjhe.”

Here, Ram’s dadi tells Nandini to befriend Ram’s dad so that he will listen to her and not VK or Ram’s mom when the time comes. You may ask who Nandini’s brother’s sister is? Read on.

2. Shivi called both Nandini and Shubu ‘cheaters.’

3. In the present, after the death of VK, Shashi and Vedika married. This was corrected in the present; hence, Sahil couldn’t marry Ram’s mom, sister of VK in the past.

4. In the dining table scene, Krish told Ram – “Mr. Kapoor aap mere shield hai agar Priya mujhpe attack karegi toh?” Just then, the camera pans at Shikki. This indicates Kumar and Ram’s dad were friends, and Kumar wanted his sister to marry Ram’s dad.

Hence, Nandini and Kumar MUST be cousins, and I have other dialogues which indicate Kumar is related to Nandini.

Correction in the present (FR): When Nandini and Shubham couldn’t break Raya’s and Shikki’s marriage, they planted golden deer / Surpanakha in the form of Anjali to Akshay. When that turned futile, Nandini brought in Vedika to fulfill their ploy. The second time also, it was unsuccessful. Hence, what couldn’t happen last time, was corrected this time.

Jale jo usko aur jalaon

Nacho chama cham chamma

Past (RR): In the past, the golden deer or Nandini or the snake successfully separated the love birds. The jealousy was purposefully planned last time also, and they separated Ram’s parents.

Correction in the present (FR): Neither Neeraj nor Vedika could separate Ram-Priya or Shivi-Akki. This time even though it was planned, they could never be successful.

Upar chade ya neeche utre

Past (RR): Last time Ram's dad was killed and either he is in a grave in that land or sent up. (could be cremated too) Ask me why? We cite the Bhed-Bhediya story: After the wolves take over the forest, they want a child/ lamb for breakfast, an adult/sheep for lunch, and half sheep for dinner. This implies the child – Ram was taken into custody by VK, Ram’s dad was killed and put in a grave in the land or cremated, and his mom is alive and in a vegetative state. [Our doubt is MS is keeping an eye on her; he could be working with dadi or has some instructions from dadi. We do need proof to confirm this doubt.]

Evidence: I will go with Shivi – “aap yeh gade murde ukhar rahe ho,” and Pri – “pairon tale zameen khishak jayenge.”

Correction in the present (FR): So far, we have seen nothing much happen but there is an attack coming for both Raya and Shikki.

If we follow the present, Ram’s parents eloped and married last time. When she was pregnant with Ram, Sahil Babbar wanted to marry her, but that didn’t materialize. Hence, in the present, Shashi married Vedika snatching her from Ram. It was the correction this generation took care of.

Now comes the Krish’s dialogue – “Uss haadse ki sacchi kahani kisi na kisi NISHANI pe toh zaroor chupi hogi." We have many nishanis here – Ram himself, kangan, dadi, Ram’s dad’s dead body, Ram’s mom.

I see dadi orchestrated to separate Ram’s parents, and mostly Nandini is guilty here with her and Kumar. VK could be Ravan here as he can kill Ram's dad for ruining his sister's life, but I have no proof. But the main killer is Kumar, as he was killed by Sahil Babbar using Ram’s car. Don’t forget we are in Ramayan here with Ram killing Ravan. Albeit unknowingly.

What happened to Ram’s mom? Before I come to that, let’s talk about Solar Eclipse.

Since both Ram and Akki are blue, we have the past play here. But, as I explained earlier on page 76,

join all the words - shining star, moon, star, dark glasses. Ring a bell? What do we see?

When we join all this, we a very BIG event happening in the universe - a "Solar Eclipse."

Sun is the brightest star in our solar system. So, when the moon covers the sun, we need a filter and dark glasses to see the diamond ring. That was the message yesterday! There was a GRAHAN that led to the Diamond Ring.

So what are they signifying? They signify that Ram is the scion of his paternal lineage and his biological mother is the key to that lock. The diamond ring is why Nandini is sticking to Ram all these years, and this is also why she wants her children to have a share in ALL of Ram's property before they get to the truth about Ram's lineage.

SP confirmed to me that there was a Surya Grahan in the Ramayana on the day between Surpanakha's disfigurement and the Golden deer/abduction incident.

So, we will see similar to the RR, all the above tracks followed by vanvas track in FR. Ram, Pri, and the wolves will walk away from KM giving a small share to Nandini and the kids.

After the news of the murder of Ram’s dad, his mom, unlike Pri this time, went alone for justice to Delhi/Varanasi. Yes, we had – “Ekla Cholo Re.” She walked alone. Do you know why? Because she is one brave lady. Here is the evidence:

Ram: “Abhi bhi dekho naa, maa ke diye hue kangan tumhein dard de rahe hai, par tum woh dard dikhaogi nehin bas muskurake seh jaogi.”

Ram: "Tum stubborn ho, ziddi ho tum Priya. Iss bat ke liye zid nehin, yeh kangan tumhein nuksaan pahuncha raha hai, Priya. I can see it."

Pri: "Aap ko sach mein lagta hai maa ke kangan mujhe nuksaan pahuncha sakta hai?"

Ram’s dad didn’t want his mom to get hurt, but she fought for both of them. One of the Krauncha birds was killed, so the female bird walked alone for justice.

If they pay no heed to your call walk on your own.

Walk alone, walk alone, walk alone, walk all alone.

No one listened to her when she wanted justice for her husband and son; she fought alone.

Evidence: “Sabut jhoot nehin bolte, lekin insaan jhoot bolte hai.”

If none speaks, o wretched one,

If all turn their face away and cower in silence—

Then open out your heart

dear one, speak out your mind, voice alone.

Evidence: "Pehle utho, phir chalo, aur bhagte raho."

If everyone spurns, o wretched one

If all leave you in the lurch in wilderness

Then trample the trail of thorns

With your blood-stained feet alone, on your own.

Evidence: We saw how Pri was hurt by the nail when kidnapped. “Raashta bahut lamba hai, abhi nehin rukna.”

If no one holds up a light, o wretched one

And bolts the doors in dark, stormy night

Then in the lightning fire of pain

Kindle your own heart and keep it burning bright alone.

Evidence: “Ladai bahut lambi hai, abhi thakna nehin hai, abhi rukna nehin hai.” Keep burning the FIGHT for justice in your heart. Ram’s mom is still fighting the war. She is the KEY to the Diamond Ring.

Meera maa to Nandini during the thunderstorm – “Priya manti nehin hain lekin main iss baat ko maanti hoon ki jab bhi kuch aacha hone wala ho toh bahut tej baarish hoti hai.”

That was the whole story so far.

“Tonight shall be the very beginning.'

'Was it?'

'It shall be. For me.'

'My beginning was the albatrosses.'

'That is a good beginning; I am glad it is yours. Tonight shall be mine.'

'Ought we to have different ones?'

'Different beginnings? I think we must.'

'Will there be more of them?'

'A great many more. Are your eyes closed?'

'Yes. Are yours?'

'Yes. Though it's so dark it hardly makes a difference.'

'I feel—more than myself.'

'I feel—as though a new chamber of my heart has opened.'

'Listen.'

'What is it?'

'The rain.”

― Eleanor Catton, The Luminaries

This work is a collective work of ours. I couldn’t put too much dialogue evidence, so the post remains short. Ask Tirchi, Ritika, Doc, or SP if you have queries. I’ll be off for the night; I will reply tomorrow.

Enjoy Ekla Cholo Re. I have chosen this video to show how Ram’s mom might have fought alone for justice. One brave lady!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yvS6yzjT10

Honey, your lineup is amazing as always. With him, I was even more convinced that Ram was not just stuck in Priya, for him she is the best woman, precisely as a woman and as someone who is a kind of copy of his mother - a woman who was strong and always fought to the last drop.

Nandini and others can do anything, but Ram and Priya will not repeat the fate of their parents. Because in my homeland they always say: "Children are superior to their parents, they must be better than them"

Originally posted by: SEA05

Honey, your lineup is amazing as always. With him, I was even more convinced that Ram was not just stuck in Priya, for him she is the best woman, precisely as a woman and as someone who is a kind of copy of his mother - a woman who was strong and always fought to the last drop.

Nandini and others can do anything, but Ram and Priya will not repeat the fate of their parents. Because in my homeland they always say: "Children are superior to their parents, they must be better than them"

Thank you! I was so blessed to know such a wonderful soul like you. ❤️

Thank you, this is completely mutual, and I don’t leave you anywhere) I am not the brains of Neeraj, I always stay with those who are dear to me, even if we are separated by something)