Was Bheeshm right in making Pandu or Dhritrashtra the king

Do you all feel that Bheeshm was right in making inefficient Pandu and blind/emotional Dhritrashtra as the king

Shouldn't he have made actually the more efficient and Dharmic Vidur the king??

Wasn't it an injustice to the throne he always promised to get the best for

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Do you all feel that Bheeshm was right in making inefficient Pandu and blind/emotional Dhritrashtra as the king

Shouldn't he have made actually the more efficient and Dharmic Vidur the king??

Wasn't it an injustice to the throne he always promised to get the best for

Vidur was not the son of a Queen. Hence he could not have become King. Besides, Pandu was elder to him.

Dhrit, Pandu and then Vidur.

If you ask, yes it's unfair that a Dasiputra cannot be a king despite being able. But these are political rules of monarchy I guess. So he could not have been made king.

Besides Bhishma was not the only one who was taking these decisions. Satyavati was present. Anything was done with Kripacharya's views and in the Dwapar Yug society, none would accept the son of a Dasi as their king due to prevalence of caste and class discrimination.

Actually vidhur was himself not interested to become king though he was wise man and great mentor . He was more interest in religious that is why when Mahabharata start vidhur get irritated and said do what ever all u want I don't care I am going to forest

And it is due to circumstances due to shakuni politics Drishatra become king

Pandu was king initially as vidhur said a king can't see can't run kingdom so that is why inpite of being elder drithrastra was not made king in first place because he was blind instead pandu was made king

But after curse of rishi pandu went to forest with two wives and here hastinapur pur was devoid for king . So shakuni manipulate until pandu come let's make drithrastra proxy king and drithrastra was made proxy king

If pandu was alive then it would be pandu king for long time but since pandu died hence drithrastra become real king of hastinapur

Pandu was not inefficient. He was actually the most efficient King after King Shantanu and made many politically progressive decisions. The only reason he went on vanvaas was to repent killing Sage Kandama, and also due to his curse. Otherwise, had he kept ruling he'd have taken Hastinapur in a very different direction, in a positive way.

Pandu wasn't an inefficient ruler. He was pale and weak at the time of his birth but excelled in archery and was worthy of being the emperor.

Vidura couldn't be the ruler because he was a Dasi Putra. Moreover, the former was better suited for the role of a chief minister he assumed because a ruler must also possess muscle power and battlefield skills.

I'm exactly sure but I have seen Dhritrashta talk about how he blamed his mother for closing her eyes before his birth so I didn't think that he was an apt king given that at times he would get emotional about his blindness & how it would affect the kingdom. Gandhaari accepted him as her husband as she said she's marrying him because he didn't base her of her physical beauty but Shakuni & their father questioned "Why not Pandu?" So I just feel that his inability to see somewhat hindered the decisions he made before he was a king & after he was a king.

Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

Pandu was not inefficient. He was actually the most efficient King after King Shantanu and made many politically progressive decisions. The only reason he went on vanvaas was to repent killing Sage Kandama, and also due to his curse. Otherwise, had he kept ruling he'd have taken Hastinapur in a very different direction, in a positive way.

He was the most efficient kings after Shantanu and before Yudhishtir because others were more incompetent.

Undoubtedly he had great understanding and political knowledge, but it can not be denied that he was physically weak. Those days the kings were not only the head of state but also the commander in chief and he was incompetent in this front.

Vidur on the other hand was both physically competent, filled with political knowledge, great strategist and Dharmic. So I will still say he was better suited for throne than Pandu. Pandu was the second best option back then

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Pandu wasn't an inefficient ruler. He was pale and weak at the time of his birth but excelled in archery and was worthy of being the emperor.

Vidura couldn't be the ruler because he was a Dasi Putra. Moreover, the former was better suited for the role of a chief minister he assumed because a ruler must also possess muscle power and battlefield skills.

The last line is where he lost to Vidur. Pandu might have been a great archer, but he was physically weak, Vidur on the other hand had physical strength too. He was equal to (if not better than) Pandu in all the other points and definitely had more Physical strength than Pandu. He definitely scored higher than Pandu in overall scoring.

Vidur being a Dasi Putra and hence not eligible seems not correct to me, because in the very next generation, Yudhishtir made Yuyutsu a Dasi Putra the ruler of Indraprasth.

Originally posted by: Meena_J

I'm exactly sure but I have seen Dhritrashta talk about how he blamed his mother for closing her eyes before his birth so I didn't think that he was an apt king given that at times he would get emotional about his blindness & how it would affect the kingdom. Gandhaari accepted him as her husband as she said she's marrying him because he didn't base her of her physical beauty but Shakuni & their father questioned "Why not Pandu?" So I just feel that his inability to see somewhat hindered the decisions he made before he was a king & after he was a king.

Dhritrashtra wasn't just physically blind, he was blind metaphorically too. He got completely blind to ill doings of his sons and brother in law.

Gandhari might have been a great lady at heart and might have thought that she is following her Pativrata Dharma but she wasn't

Pativrata Dharma is not about accepting all the weakness of your husband as your own but is actually supplementing the weakness of your husband

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Vidur was not the son of a Queen. Hence he could not have become King. Besides, Pandu was elder to him.

Dhrit, Pandu and then Vidur.

If you ask, yes it's unfair that a Dasiputra cannot be a king despite being able. But these are political rules of monarchy I guess. So he could not have been made king.

Besides Bhishma was not the only one who was taking these decisions. Satyavati was present. Anything was done with Kripacharya's views and in the Dwapar Yug society, none would accept the son of a Dasi as their king due to prevalence of caste and class discrimination.

I don't think that being a Dasi Putra was such a big obstacle in becoming the king because in the very next generation Yudhishtir made Yuyutsu the king of Indraprasth. If being a Dasi Putra wasn't a deterrent for Yuyutsu in no way it would have been one for Vidur ji. Plus people respected Bheeshm way too much, there was no reason to believe they would have discredited his decision.

Yes he was younger to his brothers but then Pandu was younger to Dhritrashtra yet he was chosen over Dhritrashtra so that should not have been a deterrent again

Coming to others like Satyavati and Kripacharya ji, yes they might have objected but that scenario would have come had Bheeshm actually proposed, he didn't even do that