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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with you completely!! Riya is just infatuated with Arjun at the moment. She doesn't know him well enough to love him - to her he's one of those tormented heroes she's probably read about in books or watched on TV/films. But yes, she'll get there eventually. Already he's caught her attention and she wants him to notice her, to be impressed by her.

To me, Riya's feelings are linked to her personal growth. She's a little girl looking for approval from 'teacher' right now. But when she evolves into a strong woman (I suspect Arjun will be the catalyst here) that's when her feelings will strengthen and make themselves known. And then, Arjun won't be able to brush her off as he does now either. But I want these two to take their time to reach this point.

Excellent analysis, Nisha!!

ETA - mohabbatgirl, loved your post!
Edited by bhoomi.s - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes totally agree with you. I never said she loves him. For now she is attracted to him. nothing more and nothing less. She will fall for him some day😆 and it will take really long for Arjun to fall for her.

and yup the other day she hugged him. She just needed comfort, she didn't do it out of love.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post!

Havent really followed the story from the beginning...but had a fair idea about the plot... and was under the notion that Riya had falled for Arjun. Well, when i saw the last scene of today's episode i realized what Arjun said was right... Love is a total different feeling and Riya is yet to experience it. I dont know much about the story so cant really comment on how correct or not he was, but the just the way Arjun said it... and the fact that he recognized a woman in love (the actor's manager) gave me a fair idea that the guy couldn't be blind to love... and least of all towards a woman in love with him.

I want to see how this story pans out... When eventually Riya falls in love with him, how will he react? Will he be mature and respect it though he feels he cant reciprocate and maintain his distance? Or will hit the roof and be downright mean and nasty to get her away from him? Or will he be the romantic he was(is?) and accept this second chance in love? Will Riya be ready to give what it takes to share her life with his man? He comes with his own baggage, a reckless attitude, wafer thin patience and more importantly ability to love with intensity which will become her life force.

I know it is a thriller and the makers are bound to show a case every single week... but i just wish we could have an episode or two concentrating on the personal lives of the ETF team... Arjun-Riya, Arjun-Rathore(like many i too feel these two were great buddies until something went wrong) Rathore's personal life, Riya-Shree-Chottu's masti and both their bosses being indulgent towards them. May be the team should be awarded a holiday and take off to some peaceful place and unwind and get to know eachother better without gun shots and blood stains.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Nisha,

Now this is what is called an omnibus question. You have covered every possible option, and I can see you waiting to tot up the votes!

There are 2 ways to go about this kind of speculation/analysis. One is to see things from the point of view of the CVs, treating the characters as their puppets, and this is good in some ways because anything going badly wrong can be neatly blamed on them. In short, the same advantage as with an arranged marriage, that is when it collapses, when you can blame your parents!😉

The other way is to take the characters as independent entiites, each with his/her own traits, good and bad, and then try to work out, logically, what is likely to emerge from the given mix. This does not work at all for soaps, as the CVs turn characters upside down every now and then whenever the ratings fall, and the first casualty is logic! But this is not a soap but a crime thriller, and the Arjun-Riya relationship is not the USP of the series, so perhaps we can risk the second method. So here goes.

I would tend to agree with you that as of now, what Riya feels for Arjun is not love. I would go further and say that it is perhaps not even a crush, but a kind of hero worship for a tough guy who is also uncannily successful in their common profession. This would be quite common in a girl of her age, who would naturally tend to admire an older man (there must be at least 10 years between them), who is also very macho and aggressive. She would do this despite,and perhaps even precisely because he is abrupt, often unkind, domineering, and prone to ticking her off for real and imaginary faults. Hero worship is like that; it thrives on anything, and the rougher the better. Girls do not hero worship nice, loving, caring, patient men; they often dismiss them as too soft. Sad, but true, alas!

Real love is not driven by hero worship, but by a rock hard commitment to the other, and is rooted in mutual caring and understanding. None of this seems to be applicable here at the moment. I do not think Riya is mature enough to understand real love; she is still at the stage of getting starry-eyed about a movie star on the screen and a Clint Eastwood type in the office.

I do not know what back story they are going to give her and how much pain there would have been in that. Unless she has personally suffered loss and despair, she cannot possibly understand the kind of visceral anguish and the corroding sense of guilt that racks Arjun.

Without such understanding - not theoretically but under her skin - there cannot be any love between them, nor will she be able to help him heal himself eventually. He is like a bird with a broken wing, and he needs very mature and careful handling.

Do you think that the Riya we have seen so far would be up to such a task? I think not.On the contrary, once she starts thinking that she is in love with him, she will begin to seek standard issue demonstrativeness, however unlikely the prospect it seems, and will then fall flat on her face. Or she will turn herself into a doormat, which would be worse, and would not make him love her either.

Nonetheless, I also believe, and this going by the CVs option, that they will end up with each other eventually, but most likely when the serial is coming to an end. This is because, even if it not the USP of this crime serial, an Arjun-Riya romantic angle, treated as a teaser that never quite fructifies, would be a definite plus for the TRPs. Letting it come to a happy ending any time soon will not serve the same purpose at all, and after all, it is the TRPs that prevail at all times.

In the meantime, we will very likely be treated to a yoyo display, as with the shooting angle today, which seems to be back at the starting line despite Riya having drilled a hole in that thug's head. Nothing has happened since then to suggest any recidivism/ slippage on her part as far as the mental block against shooting human beings goes. Despite this, Arjun talks to her today as if she was back in the bank van robbery case.

Even if there is real forward movement, though incremental, it will not be easy for either of them, unless the CVs suddenly eviscerate Arjun's character. I think not. I am reminded of the poet who said of love, that it does not always come cock a hoop with feathers, but slowly, dragging itself along on bleeding feet. He was right.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: ---Nisha---

Guys I wanted to ask you all something. Do you really think this is love (what Riya feels for Arjun)? Everyone on the forum seems to think so which is why I made this topic.

I really dont think it is love. I think she has a crush on him, she is attracted to him, she cares about him, but love...I dont think so. Because if she really loved him she would be a lot more affected by his behavior than she is. He is rude to her, he tells her she is not competent yet she isnt really affected by it that much. Yes she is hurt, but she lets it go. Every episode I watch, I realize that she doesn't in fact love him. I think there is a blossoming of something within her. But like Arjun said today pyar ek alag jasbe ka naam hota hai...jis din hoga khud jan jaogi.

Do I think she will fall in love with him eventually? It is inevitable. How can she not fall in love with him. She already admires his courage, looks for his approval...wants his approval.

Yes she hugged him in that epi when she shot someone for the first time, yes arjun went all soft for a few moments. But she was vulnerable then, she would have hugged anyone. Yes she shot the man to save arjun, but still that doesnt mean she loves him. Unless of course she subconsciously loves him and doesnt know about it herself. But considering today's and yesterday's epi that seems highly unlikely.

What do you guys think? Agree or disagree?

P.S. awesome epi.Chottu was so funny...
Seeing Rathore so stern, I wish someone would come and soften him up a bit. He is always all business...even more so then Arjun. Atleast arjun has his moments where he says something of substance (something that isnt about the case) to Riya or the others but Rathore is always case, case, case.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Tanu,

To respond to your analysis, all I have to do is to quote your own assessment of Nisha back at you. Great post!

@blue
is especially insightful, but Arjun does not need the Natasha angle to show us that he understands true love. After all, he was blissfully in love and totally besotted with his wife Roshni, and he knows what that feels like.

Riya, on the other hand, is a star-struck, hero-worshipping kid, and she has no clue about the depths and the dangers of real love. Arjun understands the terrible pressures of love and loss, not just between a man and a woman, as today, but even between sisters, as in the organ traffcking case, where a sister commits two murders and attempts a third, all to avenge her murdered sister.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: tanu07

Great post!

Havent really followed the story from the beginning...but had a fair idea about the plot... and was under the notion that Riya had falled for Arjun. Well, when i saw the last scene of today's episode i realized what Arjun said was right... Love is a total different feeling and Riya is yet to experience it. I dont know much about the story so cant really comment on how correct or not he was, but the just the way Arjun said it... and the fact that he recognized a woman in love (the actor's manager) gave me a fair idea that the guy couldn't be blind to love... and least of all towards a woman in love with him.

I want to see how this story pans out... When eventually Riya falls in love with him, how will he react? Will he be mature and respect it though he feels he cant reciprocate and maintain his distance? Or will hit the roof and be downright mean and nasty to get her away from him? Or will he be the romantic he was(is?) and accept this second chance in love? Will Riya be ready to give what it takes to share her life with his man? He comes with his own baggage, a reckless attitude, wafer thin patience and more importantly ability to love with intensity which will become her life force.

I know it is a thriller and the makers are bound to show a case every single week... but i just wish we could have an episode or two concentrating on the personal lives of the ETF team... Arjun-Riya, Arjun-Rathore(like many i too feel these two were great buddies until something went wrong) Rathore's personal life, Riya-Shree-Chottu's masti and both their bosses being indulgent towards them. May be the team should be awarded a holiday and take off to some peaceful place and unwind and get to know eachother better without gun shots and blood stains.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear bhoomi,

@blue is spot on, and sums the situation up very neatly.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: bhoomi.s

I agree with you completely!! Riya is just infatuated with Arjun at the moment. She doesn't know him well enough to love him - to her he's one of those tormented heroes she's probably read about in books or watched on TV/films. But yes, she'll get there eventually. Already he's caught her attention and she wants him to notice her, to be impressed by her.

To me, Riya's feelings are linked to her personal growth. She's a little girl looking for approval from 'teacher' right now. But when she evolves into a strong woman (I suspect Arjun will be the catalyst here) that's when her feelings will strengthen and make themselves known. And then, Arjun won't be able to brush her off as he does now either. But I want these two to take their time to reach this point.

Excellent analysis, Nisha!!

ETA - mohabbatgirl, loved your post!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have the same feeling. Its not love YET but it is something more then atraktion or a crush. But still it isnt LOVE
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Posted: 13 years ago
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in which episode she hugged him
plz tell me
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Riya is definitely starting to fall for him and she herself doesn't know it. But it'll be too early to call it love. She is just falling for him, like just getting attracted. Eventually she will fall in love but this is not love at the moment. This is just the beginning. These feelings will deepen as time passes by and that's when it will turn into love.
Edited by ..Kirann.. - 13 years ago

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