Who is wrong?

As per me everyone is wrong, yes everyone involved in Shah house and Maan too

How is anupama and vanraj wrong?

Sorry to say shes failed in upbringing of her children especially Toshu and Pakhi and samar too. Shes not taught them values or how to talk with elders or to not lust after others wealth and what is right or wrong or to do hard work. Vanraj is equally responsible for his 3 kids but in india and asia its more mother duty to give values and upbringing unlike west. Especially a stay at home mother who has all time in world. If anupama was working all 27 years than it would be equally vanraj and anupama responsibility. But here she has 16 hours of wake time to inculcate good values. People may say Baa did not allow to give values i mean grand parents. But upbrining is basically parent job whether we leave with grand parent or maids or creche. If anupama had spent some efforts to wean the 3 kids some values we would not see Pakhi talking so rudely and Toshu too. Do these kids have no sympathy for mom they have seen her abuse for 27 years in front of eyes any child would defend mom and be nice to her like Samar.

Vanraj is wrong too. Hes just given birth to 3 kids not bothered about upbrining other than material things. Hes scared Samar so much hes become so quiet and sehema hua boy.

But my full sympathy lies with anupama look at that poor woamn 27 years of non stop abuse. Now after 2nd wedding too abuse. That too at hands of own 3 kids. Even samar told her for coming late to kinjals hospital check up. Is she an human or a donkey as per Shahs? How much load and abuse you are piling on that poor lady? Is she some crimina in jail that you are abusing her day and night? Who can take such tortures day and night 24/7 for 27 years plus. Whenever she visits Shahs they abuse her blame her humiliate her. Any other human would have major depression or tried suicide once at least in these conditions. But in india and asia woman are told to bear everything husband, kids, in laws, parents, siblings, grand parents, teachers, boss do to you why? Keep quiet and bear it. Whoever speaks becomes criminal and villan for speaking up about verbal and physical abuse especially women why?

Anupama is wrong to come every morning and evening to Shah house but that does not gives Sahhs rights to treat her so badly even after shes married again and left their home. Shes not their family anymore legally that you abuse her they are ex in laws ex hubby. Regarding pakhi and toshu they have legal rights on anupama but even judge will go shocked watching these two adult kids behaving so badly with their mother that too a 45 year old woman. Taking 27 years of abuse she must be having huge health impact what if something happens to her suddenly? The way she was shivering she has anxiety may be BP too i mean taking so much torture people go very unwell. Especially in india if husband cheats wife also society blames wife only.

This kind of abuse can drive any human to serious health issues like cancers, stroke, BP, heart attacks etc because they internalize pain and anger and hatred for abusers. Especially when your own kids hate you abuse you as charitrahin kalank anupama can get any serious aliment. This is where i start hating anuj kapadia. If he truly loved anupam ahe would have taken her to psychiatrist sessions to heal got her health checked given her tablets. In india woman health is neglected by family unlike mens and kids. Anuj did same error with Malvika too both abuse victims. He left her alone to roam world for 10 years and sleep in parks after 1 year of abuse by hubby that included raping Malvika and hitting her every night in belts. Which brother does that? Anuj comes across as a bit in human as a family member although he claims he loves anupama and malvika dearly. Anuj definition of love is giving 100% business and property to wife or sister nothing else actually. If anuj was a less educated man i would forgive but hes US returned educated man.

Pakhi and Toshu point of view

Pakhi is right in her thoughts but wrong in how she tells it. Shes youngest pampered by all so far suddenly a kid is brought and shes told to treat her nicely as a sister. Its not vegetable or ball that Pakhi will share her house or mother with that kid. Its not a dog or cat that pakhi will share her toys and play time. Thats a human and its tough to accept a kid so small after being youngest for 20 years. Its not your own blood and no one asked you whether you want a younger sister as small as little anu. She was just brought and introduced no counselling nothing no asking no preparation mentally.

Pakhis problem is her tone and way of speaking. She studies in good enough college have they not told her how to speak with a mother? Ok anupama failed vanraj failed in parent duty but how did school teachers too fail to teach her manners. There is lot of hiddenn anger and hatred in Pakhi and Toshu. Where has this come from? Is it only towards anupama or deep inside its for vanraj too for having love affairs one after another? Is it towards Baa and Bapuji too for letting vanraj so free at home that their family and childhood was destroyed. Is it towards Samar too? Why is Toshu and Pakhi always so angry and rude? Broken home kids are voilent they have deep resenment against parent especially one who cheated. They remove by getting aggressive and violent with outsiders like how Toshu hit his friend on road. Pakhi has been repeatedly been telling that people make jokes laugh at her because her father had affair parents split mom married again. Trolling by school and college kids can be brutal and lead to mental health issues you see. If anupama and vanraj do not take pakhi to cousellor i am scared in anger she may try to commit suicide or hit someone badly etc

Audience may feel Pakhi is bad shes rude to anupama. But shes getting rude to vanraj and baa too nowadays. Is this adhik issue or built up anger over years about her fathers affair and parents separation? Same for Toshu. The language pakhi used was bad but somewhere she hates her mother for bringing a younger sister giving her place to little anu. Is it so easy suddenly a kid is brought to accept as sister? Will anyone of us accept? Without asking our permission as we are future siblings you just bring one child no son or daughter accepts. Adults do not accept step siblings. How will pakhi accept a 6 year old whose not blood related and she was not told by anupama before? Pakhi is jealous now that shes no longer youngest and darling and only daughter mind you of her mom. A competitor child has arrived. If kavya adopted little anu without informing may not have gone so rude on that child as kavya not her own mom.

Its easy for us audience to say ok pakhi is rude for last 2 years she may be listening to taunts of kids everyday in college and school. Parents or family do not care cannot resolve issue. No one can shes getting abused thanks to her mom and dad especially dads affair. Kids are brutal especially college kids they troll for looks, dress etc

Why is toshu not going for job interview? May be hes being asked whose in your family? Vanraj Sahh. Interviewer may be like ohh Vanraj Shah who had affair with Malvika and snatched anuj kapdia empire? I mean in interviews too they ask all sort of personal questions. For toshu back ground it will be tough to answer.

Anupama and Samar or anuj cannot understand Toshu pain as they are owners where they work. They were never interviewed in life? Nor their parents did any kaand like vanraj shah you see.

How is anuj wrong?

Anuj claims he considers pakhi toshu samar as his kids too ohh really? Daddy anuj which father tells 20 year old daughter do not enter my home? No matter how big fights no real daddy tells his daughter all that. That shows that you do not really consider Pakhi as your daughter. If lil anu has an affair after big will you say do not come home you are after adhik wealth means my wealth. What was that anuj kapdia? Admit it neither you tuly lve pakhi as a daughter or Malvika as a sister. When it comes to anupama versus your daughters or sister you convienently join anupama side i mean favoritism. Ask any father real father if his wife and daughter fights (even verbal or hatha pai happens in some houses like slums bet mom-daughters my maid told me her daughter fought her and they had hatha pai in anger) father will not tell daughter you raised hand on mom did hata pai do not come to home. Instead he will slap daughter or shout and say enough stop hatapai and screaming at mother and he will tell daughter to go to her room. He will warn wife also shut up go inside. Later on mother daughter kiss and make up after few hours. Or father or brothers will speak to both and patch up.

No real father will tell daughter never enter my home again if mom-daughter do hata pai or shout at each other or get angry on each other. Because if any father tells daughter to get out mother will shout on father only. Bec indian society not safe for girls which mother allow daughter to roam roads and sleep in gardens etc at night. Anuj kapadia left his daughter like sister Malvika to roam roads for 10 years that do not mean anupama will be ok with pakhi roaming roads. Ask any mother daughter or mother son they will fight shout slap and than by evening or next day will be hugging each other.

Less said abut Baa bapuji error better. Baa adds ghee to vanraj fire and bapuji runs away as soon as fight starts.

Pakhi needs counselling and some strict lessons. Anupama needs conselling to draw boundaries. Anuj is neither a good dad or brother. Nor a good hubby he has to correct anupama when she always runs to Shah home or forces her decisions on them and him

It was pakhi who started going personally by saying anuj pallu pakad ke ghumta hai etc etc ! She has a problem with her mother so stick to it and no need to drag step father/buddy in her hatred.

Anuj ne yeh suna nahi tha that doesn’t mean pakhi can insult him ! And Aj ke time mai agar beta apne maa -baap ki aisi insult kare toh bhi log bol dete hai ki itna insult hum nahi sahege nikal jao mere ghar se . Pakhi ne bhi third class level ka insult kiya Anuj ka along with anupama ! Kyun itna insult jele uss dependent ladki ka jo 1 rupiya bhi nahi kamati hai par Akkad and insult karne ka ek mauka nahi chodti hai !

Baap chahe saga ho yah sautela , jab pakhi jaise bacche maa -baap ki , unke rishte ki insult karne par utar aye toh aise nikkame baccho se isi bhasha mai baat karna padta hai !

And pakhi ko adhik ke wealth mai interest hai isiliye toh Anuj ke ghar ja kar Barkha se gifts le rahi thi ! Koi bhi third person dekhega yah sunega to clearly judge karega ki ladki is after lavish lifestyle! Anupama ne bhi Barkha ka gifts dena and pakhi ka gifts lena yeh sab bataya hoga Anuj ko !

Basically sab ke sab anuj ke paiso par pal rahe hai and yeh gifts bhi Anuj ke paiso se kharid kar he pakhi ko diye fir bhi pith piche Anuj ko he gaaliya dete hai !

Glad anuj ne uski and uski biwi ki insult karnewali aulad ko uske ghar aane se nana kar diya jaise aulad ne uski maa ko nana kiya! Jaisi karni waisi bharni !

Anuj treated that pakhi so well 👏

I think when you’re looking at the failings in upbringing we must look at both Vanraj and Leela where Toshu and Pakhi are concerned. Toshu was the first grandchild and male heir for Leela. I’m sure that Leela would’ve treated him like a prince and pandered to all his whims, over riding any of Anupama’s wishes and made him the obnoxious person that he is. Pakhi came along and she was treated like a princess, pampered, pandered because she is Vanraj’s offspring. Picking up the vibes from Leela and then later that Anupama is only fit to be a servant and has reduced parental rights these two children have followed in Leela’s and Vanraj’s attitudes and negated all of Anupama’s sacrifices and hard work. Such is the saying that it takes a woman to give birth to a child but a village to raise it.

Samar on the other hand was most likely ignored as he was the plus 1 and did not have the same interferences.

Me for still watching this crapfest at 6 am.

Mainly vanraj is wrong here. Why he marry anupama when he don't like anupama at all

Though anupama dadiya saas like anupama but bapuji did ask vanraj do u want to marry anupama ? And vanraj said yes

So jub vanraj ko anupama pasamd nahi thi to phir anupama se shaadi karke anupama ki life kyon destroy kiya kyon uski life messy banayi

And other wrong did by vanraj when he don't like anupama to phir teen bache paida karne ka kya matlab है

And above that he emotionally manipulated anupama ki mujhe beti chahiye when anupama clearly say she don't want third child but vanraj hell bent to say nahi mujhe beti chahiye aur anupama ke ऊपर jabatdasti teen bachon ka bhoj daal diya when vanraj is not coaoerative and do not do any house hold work not simple work like khud se khana, parosana he cannot do and more over he did not like to anupama ke upar teen bachon ka bhoj kyon daala

Agar vanraj usi time yeh keh deta ki mujhe anupama se shaadi nahi karni to aaj jo aaye din bawaal hota rehta, है woh hota hi nahi aur anupama ki life messy nahi hoti

Originally posted by: sweet_tania

It was pakhi who started going personally by saying anuj pallu pakad ke ghumta hai etc etc ! She has a problem with her mother so stick to it and no need to drag step father/buddy in her hatred.

Anuj ne yeh suna nahi tha that doesn’t mean pakhi can insult him ! And Aj ke time mai agar beta apne maa -baap ki aisi insult kare toh bhi log bol dete hai ki itna insult hum nahi sahege nikal jao mere ghar se . Pakhi ne bhi third class level ka insult kiya Anuj ka along with anupama ! Kyun itna insult jele uss dependent ladki ka jo 1 rupiya bhi nahi kamati hai par Akkad and insult karne ka ek mauka nahi chodti hai !

Baap chahe saga ho yah sautela , jab pakhi jaise bacche maa -baap ki , unke rishte ki insult karne par utar aye toh aise nikkame baccho se isi bhasha mai baat karna padta hai !

And pakhi ko adhik ke wealth mai interest hai isiliye toh Anuj ke ghar ja kar Barkha se gifts le rahi thi ! Koi bhi third person dekhega yah sunega to clearly judge karega ki ladki is after lavish lifestyle! Anupama ne bhi Barkha ka gifts dena and pakhi ka gifts lena yeh sab bataya hoga Anuj ko !

Basically sab ke sab anuj ke paiso par pal rahe hai and yeh gifts bhi Anuj ke paiso se kharid kar he pakhi ko diye fir bhi pith piche Anuj ko he gaaliya dete hai !

Glad anuj ne uski and uski biwi ki insult karnewali aulad ko uske ghar aane se nana kar diya jaise aulad ne uski maa ko nana kiya! Jaisi karni waisi bharni !

Anuj treated that pakhi so well 👏

I agree that pakhi insulted anuj but thats her house anuj is still stranger there

But she insulted vanraj too in kapadia house too. She was not ready to go with him till threatened of permanent out

But what you are saying anuj is father place is wrong.

When own father alive no child will accept step father as father and pakhi has never accepted anuj as father at all shes just bent to her mom wishes thats all to marry a person like she bent to kavya to mary vanraj a few years back actually thats all

Anupama never asked pakhi permission to marry anuj if its ok pakhi permission never mattered to anupama about marraige just like little anus adoption. When you start treating children like option do not take their ideas about your wedding to another man or adopting kid etc they will never accept such marraige or kids. Pakhi is quiet because anuj is rich very rich and shes attracted by his wealth otherwise she never consider anuj as father or step father place. If anuj was not so rich i doubt ppakhi or toshu would attend anupama anuj wedding also in first place.

She told to anuj i am talking to my mother who are you to come between mother and daughter that means she do not accept anuj relation with anupama actually as step father too

Its easy to have second marraige but first marraige kids do not give mother or father place

Your mom dad is your mom dad step father can never get father place

How nicely has anuj treated pakhi? He was nice to her before marriage doing chaplusi so she accepts him and to show to anupama hes nice to her kids

Otherwise as such anuj comes across as Matlabi person he does not truly care for malvika or pakhi as own daughter or sister actually when it comes to anything. He only told in kitchen to malvika jab tumhari anu ki baat hai toh yeh bbanda khudraz hai. That was message to malvika go to hell for me when it comes to anupama you do not matter. Now in fight also instead of resolving issue hes saying do not enter house. You are after my wealth means adhik wealth. She may be but you do not tell a daughter you are after my property or wealth. A real daughter has all right on your wealth actually. So that means anuj do not consider pakhi as his own daughter its all drama pakhu pakhu any child will go wild only.

Only kavya whole hearted is a mother to pakhi or samar without any expectations from them actually of respect or not from before

If pakhi wants anuj wealth even anuj is no saint hes never given daughter place to pakhi hes just nice to pakhi to please anupama

anuj must understand kids have more right on parents than a spouse. Thats why you cannot divorce your kids but you can divorce your hubby. Even law agrees kids cannot divorce parents or vice versa no matter how much you hate. Anupama was explaining to pakhi and so was kavya and kinjal toh iska khudna sahi nahi. Hes a new man in their life they do not accept his as family still.

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Mainly vanraj is wrong here. Why he marry anupama when he don't like anupama at all

Though anupama dadiya saas like anupama but bapuji did ask vanraj do u want to marry anupama ? And vanraj said yes

So jub vanraj ko anupama pasamd nahi thi to phir anupama se shaadi karke anupama ki life kyon destroy kiya kyon uski life messy banayi

And other wrong did by vanraj when he don't like anupama to phir teen bache paida karne ka kya matlab है

And above that he emotionally manipulated anupama ki mujhe beti chahiye when anupama clearly say she don't want third child but vanraj hell bent to say nahi mujhe beti chahiye aur anupama ke ऊपर jabatdasti teen bachon ka bhoj daal diya when vanraj is not coaoerative and do not do any house hold work not simple work like khud se khana, parosana he cannot do and more over he did not like to anupama ke upar teen bachon ka bhoj kyon daala

Agar vanraj usi time yeh keh deta ki mujhe anupama se shaadi nahi karni to aaj jo aaye din bawaal hota rehta, है woh hota hi nahi aur anupama ki life messy nahi hoti

80% of marraiges n india happen like vanraj anupama only

family decides they marry

if vanraj say no they will ask why? Do you have another girl? Why not etc so to avoid interrogation many say yes only in fear and vanraj must be young than not the ravan raj now.

Majority kids born in asia are bhoj only you think mothers want them its all father or grandparents will only

Grandparent want or kundali dosh or hogaya etc

That was 1995 even college students did arranged marraige by parents

It was not 2010 or 2022 ke ppl will tell their parents no i will not marry i want glamour wife educated wife or handsome SRK hubby

In pakhi case it was leela who told him to make 3rd child and stop her from going USA so he told i want daughter i think in ott they show

बापूजी इस not like that अगर vanraj kehyta ki use anupama se shaadi nahi karni to woh vanraj ko force karte hi nahi anupama se hi karni hai when he don't like anupama .

Aur more over vanraj has सपोर्ट of baa

To ek baar vanraj yeh kehta hai jub main ise wife ka right de hi nahi paaonga to shaadi karke kya fayda, aur बापूजी us baat ko samjhse ki anupama ki zindagi barbaad ho ise bhadiya vanraj shaadi hi nahi kare

Originally posted by: surabhi01

बापूजी इस not like that अगर vanraj kehyta ki use anupama se shaadi nahi karni to woh vanraj ko force karte hi nahi anupama se hi karni hai when he don't like anupama .

Aur more over vanraj has सपोर्ट of baa

To ek baar vanraj yeh kehta hai jub main ise wife ka right de hi nahi paaonga to shaadi karke kya fayda, aur बापूजी us baat ko samjhse ki anupama ki zindagi barbaad ho ise bhadiya vanraj shaadi hi nahi kare

No in ott they show moti Baa had all power

Baa was like anupama under moti Baa

Moti Baa had chavi of house and treasury etc

So Moti Baa decided vanraj has to marry anupama

Bapuji ya Baa had no rights on this marraige issue all moti baa decided

watch OTT serial i do not know what they showed actually but ott moti baa decide

aur yeh vanraj dartha tha moti baa se zuban nahi chaltri thi

Most marriage are arrrange marrriiage but in marriage mein parents do ask opinion from son

So bhale hi arrange marriage thi but bapuji did ssk vanraj opinion about marriage . बापूजी का, kya reaction hota kya question hota woh baat ki baat but vanraj ko truth bolna chahiye aur anupama ki zindagi nahi barbad karni chahiye