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Originally posted by: toli

Sorry For not explaining the question right Saara ,I have updated the question hope u get my Question please do reply with ur Side on this..

@ Priya u got the Question right and I kinda see ur point too.

@ Hardic i have to disagree with you,All the teams were there in the finals so did see what changes had been made and could have adapted

@Srkrulezz I know sometimes the Kids series is confusing and some rounds really don't make any sense,But we get to hear lot of songs thatz good..Even I liked the Adult version it Was fast ,but again I fell for kids this Format is good

Sry I am a Libra Cannot stick to a Point...😆😊

what's urtake on this lydia? would love to hear since u cannot stick to a point😆😆😆

Nakkala Priya 😳 😆
Princess Havent seen ur Point yet
Sunita Looking forward to ur point..

I feel this Format is too long and Confuses the Kids more.......
Like they change the rules of the rounds and Itz been 3 weeks already and No Naveen and Juhi yet 😊 ...

Lekhin.. 😆 We get to watch more episodes thatz a definite plus 😃

Hi All,

This is quite a nice topic for a debate.but before u read this post make sure u

have a lot of time,coz as usual I have a lot to say!!!!I'd say that the present

format is better than the previous one.I think the previous one had

some flaws which the ATGC research team realized only after the finals(as

did all of us).

The first problem in the previous format was the first movers advantage that West and Central got as rightly pointed out by hardic

Originally posted by: hardic

as per my opinion i liked the format of little star series

first of all more people are included
& everyone will get chance to prove them
In prevoius format top scorer have to wait for long time,they did not get practice of the rounds thats why East ki aan mother-daughter jodi lost otherwise they are too good

West and Central came in earlier than east to play the rounds,so they had enough time to familiarize themselves with the changes in the format.This time is crucial in a neck to neck competition like the grand finale. I believe that this is important coz,when soumya started playing she didn't do too well the first two days.she started playing quite well from day-3.so obviously that much of warm up time was needed. But when east walked in,they had not played any of the rounds even once.so they had no warm up time. Even a person like sachin tendulkar does better when he is an opening batsman and has time to settle down!

The second problem was that,in the previous format,till the last week all teams played only to stay in the competition and did not play to win. What I mean is that,last time there were ALWAYS four teams on stage and the lowest scorer was getting replaced.So the motive of each player wasthat he/she should not to be the lowest scorer… it didn't matter if they were highest/second highest. They got no bonus points for scoring well.they were just penalized if they were last. If they were the highest scorer they got a measly 15 point lead the next day,which is almost nothing.I mean,if at end of day 1 team A is leading with 250 points and team B is second with 150 points,it still didn't matter.the following day team A would start with a 15 point lead,whereas the previous day they had a100 point lead!!!so cumulative score at the end of the day had no value(bad idea,in my opinion).This encouraged teams to go into 'safe mode' and killed the spirit of the game .teams had no motive to score huge points.

Lastly,the idea with which the game was formatted was that the zone which stayed longest in the game would have an advantage,but this very idea was defeated.Soma and sanjoy from east gave an exemplary performance,but it was that very performance that proved to be the nemesis of east.by staying on for so long,they deprived their captains of a chance to hone their skills which lead to their defeat.so in other words,if u think back u'll realize that all those rounds that they had with the 2^nd highest scorers and thirds highest scorers had no meaning.the points scored by them also had no meaning. Ultimately the 4 finalists battled and it was only the finalists' points that counted. The others had no role to play.

In this format,the highest scorers get into the quarterfinals . And the score of each team from each zone at the end of each day matters,coz it will decide whether they will play in the grand finale or not. so ppl have a motive to increase their scores.the game always gets more interesting that way. There is also no first movers advantage,since all finalists will face each other on the grand finals with equal exposure to all rounds.

This format has one disadvantage.that is(and this is a little confusing for me to explain)

Suppose we have a zone,eg south zone.let us say south zone has four teams

A:4^th higest scorers

B:3^rd highest scorers

C:2^nd highest scorers

D:highest scorers

Suppose team A, scroes 350 points at the end of all four days and beats all other 4^th highest scorers .Let us say that all the other teams from the same south zone score less than 350.So what would happen is that team 'A' which scored 350 points and who were actually the 4^th higest scrorers as per the initial records would qualify for the grand finale.This would not necessarily mean that that team 'A' is better than the other teams in the south zone. the reason is that the Team 'D'-the highest scorers from the south zone would be pitted against the highest scorers in north,central and other zones.so the level of competition that they are facing is that much higher,making it that much more difficult to score.If team 'D' had been pitted against the 4^th highest scorers from other zones,they'd probably have scored 500.which obviously means Team 'D' the best team from the south.But coz of this rule they actually get eliminated.

So if our favourite navin scores less than 295 (esha and devesh) when he competes with the others,he is out!!!That would one big dhakka for everyone.so that is one major flaw with this system.anyway,guess it will not happen.

Anybody,who read this post…thanx for ur patience!!!!

Very well written and very valid arguments made Rock n roll But I will have to Disagree on choosing the LS format .

from ur explanation itself itz obvious that this format does not guarantee that the strongest team from each zone comes to finals , THat beats the Purpose of the grand finale itself....(oh God please Naveen score more than 295 please please 😊 )

I admit ur point about flaws in the Adult finale format,but when u are the top scorer of ur team u should have the ability to come into the game doesn't matter at what point and be able to perform ur best...

Above all I felt the adult format Guaranteed the top and the good players from each zone got to the grand finals which is the most important thing.

I am arguing just to make the discussion interesting no offense meant to anyone 😊

I must say very well n logically written Anu......I really enjoyed reading ur analysis n it made me think........ but there r certain points where my individual opinion is different from urs.... will put my opinion soon...I hope I get time to write... right now I m preparing question paper for Lydia...😆

Originally posted by: rock&roll

Hi All,

This is quite a nice topic for a debate.but before u read this post make sure u

have a lot of time,coz as usual I have a lot to say!!!!I'd say that the present

format is better than the previous one.I think the previous one had

some flaws which the ATGC research team realized only after the finals(as

did all of us).

The first problem in the previous format was the first movers advantage that West and Central got as rightly pointed out by hardic

West and Central came in earlier than east to play the rounds,so they had enough time to familiarize themselves with the changes in the format.This time is crucial in a neck to neck competition like the grand finale. I believe that this is important coz,when soumya started playing she didn't do too well the first two days.she started playing quite well from day-3.so obviously that much of warm up time was needed. But when east walked in,they had not played any of the rounds even once.so they had no warm up time. Even a person like sachin tendulkar does better when he is an opening batsman and has time to settle down!

The second problem was that,in the previous format,till the last week all teams played only to stay in the competition and did not play to win. What I mean is that,last time there were ALWAYS four teams on stage and the lowest scorer was getting replaced.So the motive of each player wasthat he/she should not to be the lowest scorer… it didn't matter if they were highest/second highest. They got no bonus points for scoring well.they were just penalized if they were last. If they were the highest scorer they got a measly 15 point lead the next day,which is almost nothing.I mean,if at end of day 1 team A is leading with 250 points and team B is second with 150 points,it still didn't matter.the following day team A would start with a 15 point lead,whereas the previous day they had a100 point lead!!!so cumulative score at the end of the day had no value(bad idea,in my opinion).This encouraged teams to go into 'safe mode' and killed the spirit of the game .teams had no motive to score huge points.

Lastly,the idea with which the game was formatted was that the zone which stayed longest in the game would have an advantage,but this very idea was defeated.Soma and sanjoy from east gave an exemplary performance,but it was that very performance that proved to be the nemesis of east.by staying on for so long,they deprived their captains of a chance to hone their skills which lead to their defeat.so in other words,if u think back u'll realize that all those rounds that they had with the 2^nd highest scorers and thirds highest scorers had no meaning.the points scored by them also had no meaning. Ultimately the 4 finalists battled and it was only the finalists' points that counted. The others had no role to play.

In this format,the highest scorers get into the quarterfinals . And the score of each team from each zone at the end of each day matters,coz it will decide whether they will play in the grand finale or not. so ppl have a motive to increase their scores.the game always gets more interesting that way. There is also no first movers advantage,since all finalists will face each other on the grand finals with equal exposure to all rounds.

This format has one disadvantage.that is(and this is a little confusing for me to explain)

Suppose we have a zone,eg south zone.let us say south zone has four teams

A:4^th higest scorers

B:3^rd highest scorers

C:2^nd highest scorers

D:highest scorers

Suppose team A, scroes 350 points at the end of all four days and beats all other 4^th highest scorers .Let us say that all the other teams from the same south zone score less than 350.So what would happen is that team 'A' which scored 350 points and who were actually the 4^th higest scrorers as per the initial records would qualify for the grand finale.This would not necessarily mean that that team 'A' is better than the other teams in the south zone. the reason is that the Team 'D'-the highest scorers from the south zone would be pitted against the highest scorers in north,central and other zones.so the level of competition that they are facing is that much higher,making it that much more difficult to score.If team 'D' had been pitted against the 4^th highest scorers from other zones,they'd probably have scored 500.which obviously means Team 'D' the best team from the south.But coz of this rule they actually get eliminated.

So if our favourite navin scores less than 295 (esha and devesh) when he competes with the others,he is out!!!That would one big dhakka for everyone.so that is one major flaw with this system.anyway,guess it will not happen.

Anybody,who read this post…thanx for ur patience!!!!

agree with ur points too,no offense taken at anything.😊

The reason why i thought this format is better is that it makes things more interesting,since each day matters and almost everyone gets an equal opportunity(well ,almost!!!).yes it has one major flaw,as i pointed out.but going by an extension of ur own argument

Originally posted by: toli

I admit ur point about flaws in the Adult finale format,but when u are the top scorer of ur team u should have the ability to come into the game doesn't matter at what point and be able to perform ur best...

This holds good now too.If the top scorer of a zone is really good he should have the ability to beat the highest score from his zone.after all,the format doesn't require that he beat the other zone,he just has to better his zone's highest scorere.iF he is really good,he can do it.But having said that for argument's sake ,i agree it is difficlt coz he will be gfaccing tougher competition.

But i agree with u that maybe my choice of format is not right.actually ,probably neither format is good... they shld probably come up with something better(but not an audience sms !!!!😆)that is the worst thing they can do!!

I just thought of another plus point of this new format.Under this format,if any particular team is the 2nd highest scorer because of bad luck in that particular episode they get a chance to prove themselves again.I'm saying this specifically with refernce to anuja and rashmi from west.I think they are are better than the highest scorers in west(who will play next week).In fact i think these are the only girls who can make navin pull up his socks and give him tough competition.I alos believe they will make it to the grand finale,beating their counterparts from west.
In fact the reason they were not the highest scorers in their zone in the first place is that they competed with navin and juhi during their second run.and navin is among the best ,if not the best .They lost by a relatively small margin to navin.It was bad luck that they faced navin at that time.If they'd faced anyone else,they might have won and wld have been the highest scorers.After all, the more number of games one plays,the higher the score is.It doesn't matter if the opponents one faces during this week and are not upto the mark!!
Similarly if the girls who r the highest scorers from the west had faced navin in the prelims,they wldn't have won and wld have never been highest scorers!!!just my take on the whole thing.So looking at the other side of the coin,there is aplus point in this format too
and lydia.. u r right.I love to write.... there i go again! 😉 😆

wow anu..you have blown me away with your arguments...i have to still read the latter posts but wanted to let you know that you really have made this topic ver yinteresting and have given us a very analytical point of view. 👏

Originally posted by: rock&roll

But i agree with u that maybe my choice of format is not right.actually ,probably neither format is good... they shld probably come up with something better(but not an audience sms !!!!😆)that is the worst thing they can do!!

This one I agree with u 100% I felt it was like a joke when they said to send SMS to save north, hope they dont do anything like that this time around.

Now i am gone to be stoned by North Fans.............😆