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Posted: 16 years ago
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@Tintiny I agree wid u 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i lost hope for this show
everyday i watch it with scared face
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: tintiny

@ JC, I do not want the story to go that way but I want Laali to take Badi Thakurain's place as her successor, you see with Laali's personality and levelheadedness she should earn her place not as a baby producing machine but as someone to reckon with, who will also help the Thakur's in their future business decisions etc



I understood where you stand about what the future of Lali should be and most likely thats more of a possibility. But i was thinking in terms of Lali the girl who dreamt of her husband a life with him. Ganesiya would be a much better mate for Lali. I am just a sucker for happy endings. :D

As for Lali becoming Badi Thakurain? I don't think Badi Thakurain has much power in the house let alone the business.

One thing i will agree with tho is that Lali has all the lakshan of becoming Shekhar's soul mate. But the problem is no matter what happens Lali is a baby making vessel for everyone. Thats the whole deal with buying and selling isn't it. Lali has resigned herself to that fate. Whether Shekhar does it lovingly or out of compulsion.. wethers its love making or intercourse.. that is what Lali will be. If she doesn't beget a son, she has no place in that house, in that family. Shekhar is not a personality that can stand in front of his father. He will not be able to bring any power to Lali jus because he loves her. If it was so he would have gotten his wife those rights.

If Lali is to get any hold on that household, it will be if she gives Thakur a grandson. Even then, its likely that she'll be shown the door to the khotri and Sideshwari will be brought back in and all rights given back to her. Because Thakur would never want the world to know that his grandchild was born to the servant girl. Its a matter of his honor.

I honestly don't see Lali toppling Thakur's rule. I only see her suffering.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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As for Lali becoming Badi Thakurain? I don't think Badi Thakurain has much power in the house let alone the business.


If Lali is to get any hold on that household, it will be if she gives Thakur a grandson. Even then, its likely that she'll be shown the door to the khotri and Sideshwari will be brought back in and all rights given back to her. Because Thakur would never want the world to know that his grandchild was born to the servant girl. Its a matter of his honor.

I honestly don't see Lali toppling Thakur's rule. I only see her suffering.

Yes JC, bade Thakurain does not have much power and that is why I want Laali to take her place but with more power....a true lady of the house...whatever the Bade Thakurain does, even if she is right she is often overuled by the Thakur.....there I want Laali to come in....
I have some feelings for siddeshwari too, she should be given back her place though I know she somewhat baffles me with her actions....but here is the twist, Laali will not go back to the kothri as Shekhar will not allow it then.....the mother of his child (boy / girl whatever it is ) and shekhar will once again defy his father and more maturedly...
Regarding Laali's past dreams, you know and I know if Laali had gone to Ganesiya's house, her mother-in-law would have made her work from dawn to dusk, there story would have been just like any other ordinary story, today Ganesiya wants her but then if he would have got her easily would have taken her for granted.....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Well i am a new viewer of Agle Janam. I have to confess i don't know about Ganesiya's family. Ganesiya came accross as a good guy to me, one who would keep Lali happy in their small word and fulfil her small wishes. She doesn't dream big na. A girl like her would have loved the simple life with Ganesiya tho it comes with hardwork, Lali seems a person who rather work all day than sit idle even if someone asked her to. So i believe mother-in-law or not she'd still be working just as hard out of will and need.

I don't have faith in Shekhar's ability to fight for too long. He is one who knows he must fight but doesn't know how. Poor frustrated guy. Don't know how successful he will be in keeping Lali in the house once she gives a son to them. Plus he'll be torn between Sid and Lali then. There will be a struggle within himself too. So he has to fight inside and out. Right now he is mostly fighting outward and still not successfully. Unless he changes in the time that Lali has to spend with him. Gotta wait and watch.

Sid's character is puzzling. Don't know her history, But someone who is apparently not affected, rather doesn't show the appropriate affect in most situations, often are deemed to have a few screws loose in their head. But she is a bit less complicated than that. She keeps her focus on things that don't require anything from her. THINGS. She is another example of a human object in this show. One that is not useful but looks good in the showcase. Thats what her life has become. So instead of feeling sad and lonely, she prides herself in being precious in the showcase. Its a way of making lemonade when life throws lemons at you. She is deliberately vain. Because its a better way in her pov than to fight something inevitable. Her life has conditioned her into such a state. But there is also a lot of innocence and immaturity in her. That is what makes it harder to understand what she feels and what she is.
A single moment that i can say i felt for her was when she asked Thakurain whether Lali will let her play with Shekhar's son. The emotions on her face at that moment spoke about everything that woman was thinking and feeling that moment. She doesn't hide her feelings or sorrow, she suppresses them...and does it well. Her childishness is not an act but her way of making life more bearable. Its subconscious i believe, but there are those brief moments of breakthrough when whats underneath comes to the fore.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

Well i am a new viewer of Agle Janam. I have to confess i don't know about Ganesiya's family. Ganesiya came accross as a good guy to me, one who would keep Lali happy in their small word and fulfil her small wishes. She doesn't dream big na. A girl like her would have loved the simple life with Ganesiya tho it comes with hardwork, Lali seems a person who rather work all day than sit idle even if someone asked her to. So i believe mother-in-law or not she'd still be working just as hard out of will and need.

I don't have faith in Shekhar's ability to fight for too long. He is one who knows he must fight but doesn't know how. Poor frustrated guy. Don't know how successful he will be in keeping Lali in the house once she gives a son to them. Plus he'll be torn between Sid and Lali then. There will be a struggle within himself too. So he has to fight inside and out. Right now he is mostly fighting outward and still not successfully. Unless he changes in the time that Lali has to spend with him. Gotta wait and watch.

Sid's character is puzzling. Don't know her history, But someone who is apparently not affected, rather doesn't show the appropriate affect in most situations, often are deemed to have a few screws loose in their head. But she is a bit less complicated than that. She keeps her focus on things that don't require anything from her. THINGS. She is another example of a human object in this show. One that is not useful but looks good in the showcase. Thats what her life has become. So instead of feeling sad and lonely, she prides herself in being precious in the showcase. Its a way of making lemonade when life throws lemons at you. She is deliberately vain. Because its a better way in her pov than to fight something inevitable. Her life has conditioned her into such a state. But there is also a lot of innocence and immaturity in her. That is what makes it harder to understand what she feels and what she is.
A single moment that i can say i felt for her was when she asked Thakurain whether Lali will let her play with Shekhar's son. The emotions on her face at that moment spoke about everything that woman was thinking and feeling that moment. She doesn't hide her feelings or sorrow, she suppresses them...and does it well. Her childishness is not an act but her way of making life more bearable. Its subconscious i believe, but there are those brief moments of breakthrough when whats underneath comes to the fore.

Very good analysis of Sid's character👏 Though the creatives are yet to show the reason why Sid cannot have children, I know she is hiding her true feeling behind her mask....a person can be immature but that does not anyway mean she is devoid of her feelings......may be like the Thakurain she also want Shekhar to do 'it' and get over with it.....let there be peace at home.
Shekhar has you have pointed out is not as strong as we would want him to be or as we would like him to be, but with Laali's support I want him to evolve as a stronger person who will take on his father and of course his brother in the future. A good mix of the poet in him and the firm leader he can be....
Ganesiya does come across as a good boy but with a greedy father, who had no qualms to break the marriage of his son for want of bigger dowry and had no qualms to arrange another marriage with the younger sister when he heard the bride's father now has some money in his hand. If Laali would have gone to Ganasiya family after her gauna, it would have been a normal life for her & Ganasiya. With the turn of the events it is now to be seen how Ganasiya evolves as a person, simply as a heartbroken lover or a man of substance who would want to do something in life.....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Sid cannot be undersood from a non-psychological perspective. She doesn't behave "normal" so to understand her one needs to get rid of the idea of "normal". Believe it or not, i started writing about her in my previous post and then tried to go to sleep and all i could think about was why she was this way. 😆 She is often tangential but not truly so. So she avoids all the topics that have the potential to lead to a confrontation..a confrontation with an issue that she is desperately trying not to acknowledge, that is that she cannot have children and therefore is loosing her place in her life. Usually psych patients do that when they don't want to talk about the real issue. You ask them why they cut themselves and they will tell you rain smells rusty. Sid is not that tangential. You can still see where she jumps from in one topic to the other. Like when she bugs Shekher to tell about why he faught with Loha today and he scream it out that her inability to have children is the root cause of all the problem, she says that he is frustrated because he got yelled at for no mistake of his own.
She is not vain truly at all. Cuz if she was she'd not have easily accepted staying in the Kothri. Her reaction to being locked in the kothri completely threw me. She didn't complain too much instead said "It may look dirty but its actually clean." She had already accepted that this was where she'd live till Shekhar does what Loha says. When Shekhar came to get her she ran to hug him (which was a instictual reaction) but soon her mind takes over and she tells him there is no use of taking her back as Loha will come up wiht a new way to get Shekhar to do things he wants.
She asked for a mirror from the guy standing security mentioning how the whole place didn't have a mirror and how one lives without a mirror, it was a sort of avenue of taking out her real frustration of having been thrown in a hole and asked to live there. Instead of asking Loha how a human is supposed to breathe in there she takes the less confrontational road. Her frustrations manifest onto simpler situations, where she can find the resolution and keep her mind at peace instead of living in a constant state of conflict within and with the inhabitants of that haveli. When Thakurain asked her to take two sarees and come, she knew something was up just like anyone in her situation. But instead of pressing on about "Where are you taking me, what are we doing? Whats going to be my future" which are more confrontational questions when she realized THakurain wasn't about to give her confusion manifests in the form of "What jewerly should i take?" And she kept repeating until Thakurain got frustrated and left asking her to follow.

Sometimes her behavior makes me wonder about her depth of love for Shekhar. But then, for a girl who loves her husband, and sees him suffering because his father wants a grandchild from him, and he is not willing to accept another woman in his life, she might be doing what any wife might think of doing. She is being indifferent. Pushing him away. Letting him go down the path that atleast will make his life easier even if it meant she'd loose her place in his life. Tho its not certain that some things she does are deliberate or not. I believe a lot of what she says and does is subconcious and so to an onlooker it will seem like she is crazy or she doesn't care. But you have to know how the mind works to see how Sid is adjusting to her life.


You can see my interest in this character. 😆 She is the most intriguing because she is hard to understand. :D I also like Shekhar's Grandfather. He is a funny man. Lali is my tragedy queen but one with a lot of class..thats rare. I believe Thakurain will one day hit Loha on the head with something heavy while he is sleeping. She has all the makings of a deranged-killer-wife-to-be-because-her-husband-tortured-her-too-much.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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@ JC, an elaborate analysis of Sid's character but very apt analysis. Loha Singh, Laali, Shekhar in their own way are very open person....they do whatever they belief in...Sid is the only one I find very very complex though easy apparently but she is the most complex that the moment....in future how she will react is very difficult to predict too..

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