Abhi Simi tiff-Solution?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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As Bana said,
He told all right things but yes at wrong time.
But then I think he has suffered enough that he is like this.
New job is not the reason he is behaving like this.When he came back in the afternoon from Chandigarh,he was in his high spirits,happy and teasing simi.
But the secret she kept from him has irritated him no end.
The fact that in spite of being there for her all the time whenever she needed him and still his wife feels that he is incapable of handling a situation is a serious insult to Abhi as a husband,friend and as an individual.
According to the story in Karol bagh, its just the second day after the incident and Abhi landing himself in prison. Any normal person needs his time to come back to normal, cool down his anger and may be later on with a cool mind analyse the situation. But Simi has surely not given him that space and time to come to terms with the fact that she actually hid the truth from Abhi.
Even before his genuine anger has come down, Simi has irritated him. Its true she wants to patch up. But not everyone behaves same. If someone wants his time to come to terms with that fact,its better she does give him that space. He tells her that only....Tumhare faltoo baaton ke liye,i have no time. Instead of apology she continues small talk.And the list of wrong moves from simi for the day.
1.She reminds him he is ghar ka damaad and his responsibility which he has never shirked away from and always done more than his share of duties even when he was not married to Simi.
2.She expects and insists to take half day off.
3.Instead of behaving properly with him that thankfully he came for lunch at Mathurs, she goes to the extent of returning with anger.
4.The way she walked in with anger and turned him around. Did she not grab his arm today to make him listen to her. In fact she is also physically abusing him.
5. In all her anger she speaks to him rude saying he insulted her family. She can show anger on Abhi. When it comes to talking to her mom,Anita,Anuj,Neetu who has wronged her at one time or the other, she is tongue tied. With Bhalla also her reaction is that.Keeping quiet about his taunts. What right she has to direct anger only at Abhi.Because he has been good to her all the time. or she thinks whatever she does to him, eventually abhi will still remain at her feet and at her beck and call.
6.After the confrontation, she again grabs him and asks...Ab kahan ja rahe ho? so what he cant even go anywhere else. the lunch at mathurs is over. so then he will sit and sulk in 12/24 without getting back to his work?
7.She grabbed him too many times to prevent his exit from the room.
8.Then madam decides she has to sort issues and lands up at his office.
What she thought....to sort the small fight that she had with her son to land up and check on him at his school or complain to the class teacher saying my son is not behaving well...please punish him with more homework?
Just imagine....second day at his work, he had already taken permission i think for joining the kitty party i can say at Mathurs.Then the wife turns up at his office to sort family issues. She is not going for her work.Does not mean, he would not have. He was beside her the previous night at home. It has not yet gone to the extent of living in separate rooms. so why go to office...to make a fool out of him there. she cant give him peace at his work also. Exactly that is what Abhi asked her....could not she wait till he got back home.
LIST IS ENDLESS.
Sorry to say again.Though at the wrong time....Abhi has had enough.
Abhi promising Simi will not have to cry in front of anyone after agreeing for his proposal, and telling society the consequences of trying to hurt Simi once more...all this will carry meaning provided Simi as a wife will also reciprocate his concern and love towards her. No relationship can work onesided. In fact simi has to be working twice over to make her marriage work by being there for him and loving him for all the effort he took single handedly in maryying her. what has he got so far in life after meeting her...NEW PROBLEMS>>>NEW PROBLEMS>>>AND NEW PROBLEMS TO SOLVE.
Please give him a break. his anger and language is because of Simi herself.None other.
I think we have had glimpses of his anger even before. Probably we all have ignored that in the sweetness of initial Abhi-Simi romance.
1.He pulls out the draw in his room and throws it down just after the first jagrata when Simi humiliated him saying dont interfere in her life when he brought out Bhalla issue.
2.Hej ust throws the glass photoframe with his and his sister Anitas picture when he learns ANita Anuj had stolen FD cheque
3.he had thrown the achar bottle down to make simi listen to him about why he took money from Omi.
4.He had thrown down the flower pot when Simi called him bachcha at home when Bhalla came home.
All that incidents shows he is extreme in his anger too. Now with more humiliation on his way that too from an inconsiderate wife, his anger has crossed the limits of control.And the tone and language is matching the angry image he is being given as of now.
People remain sweet and forgive errors as long as they can take.When pushed to the threshold limit, all boundaries are let loose.
Well though I too would love to see both Abhi and Simi sorting differences, I still cannot love the character any less.
But here again,Smriti and Neil have definitely given a wonderful performance together. All the best guys.......as Neil and Smriti AND Abhi and Simi.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mesimi

As Bana said,

He told all right things but yes at wrong time.
But then I think he has suffered enough that he is like this.
New job is not the reason he is behaving like this.When he came back in the afternoon from Chandigarh,he was in his high spirits,happy and teasing simi.
But the secret she kept from him has irritated him no end.
The fact that in spite of being there for her all the time whenever she needed him and still his wife feels that he is incapable of handling a situation is a serious insult to Abhi as a husband,friend and as an individual.
According to the story in Karol bagh, its just the second day after the incident and Abhi landing himself in prison. Any normal person needs his time to come back to normal, cool down his anger and may be later on with a cool mind analyse the situation. But Simi has surely not given him that space and time to come to terms with the fact that she actually hid the truth from Abhi.
Even before his genuine anger has come down, Simi has irritated him. Its true she wants to patch up. But not everyone behaves same. If someone wants his time to come to terms with that fact,its better she does give him that space. He tells her that only....Tumhare faltoo baaton ke liye,i have no time. Instead of apology she continues small talk.And the list of wrong moves from simi for the day.
1.She reminds him he is ghar ka damaad and his responsibility which he has never shirked away from and always done more than his share of duties even when he was not married to Simi.
2.She expects and insists to take half day off.
3.Instead of behaving properly with him that thankfully he came for lunch at Mathurs, she goes to the extent of returning with anger.
4.The way she walked in with anger and turned him around. Did she not grab his arm today to make him listen to her. In fact she is also physically abusing him.
5. In all her anger she speaks to him rude saying he insulted her family. She can show anger on Abhi. When it comes to talking to her mom,Anita,Anuj,Neetu who has wronged her at one time or the other, she is tongue tied. With Bhalla also her reaction is that.Keeping quiet about his taunts. What right she has to direct anger only at Abhi.Because he has been good to her all the time. or she thinks whatever she does to him, eventually abhi will still remain at her feet and at her beck and call.
6.After the confrontation, she again grabs him and asks...Ab kahan ja rahe ho? so what he cant even go anywhere else. the lunch at mathurs is over. so then he will sit and sulk in 12/24 without getting back to his work?
7.She grabbed him too many times to prevent his exit from the room.
8.Then madam decides she has to sort issues and lands up at his office.
What she thought....to sort the small fight that she had with her son to land up and check on him at his school or complain to the class teacher saying my son is not behaving well...please punish him with more homework?
Just imagine....second day at his work, he had already taken permission i think for joining the kitty party i can say at Mathurs.Then the wife turns up at his office to sort family issues. She is not going for her work.Does not mean, he would not have. He was beside her the previous night at home. It has not yet gone to the extent of living in separate rooms. so why go to office...to make a fool out of him there. she cant give him peace at his work also. Exactly that is what Abhi asked her....could not she wait till he got back home.
LIST IS ENDLESS.
Sorry to say again.Though at the wrong time....Abhi has had enough.
Abhi promising Simi will not have to cry in front of anyone after agreeing for his proposal, and telling society the consequences of trying to hurt Simi once more...all this will carry meaning provided Simi as a wife will also reciprocate his concern and love towards her. No relationship can work onesided. In fact simi has to be working twice over to make her marriage work by being there for him and loving him for all the effort he took single handedly in maryying her. what has he got so far in life after meeting her...NEW PROBLEMS>>>NEW PROBLEMS>>>AND NEW PROBLEMS TO SOLVE.
Please give him a break. his anger and language is because of Simi herself.None other.
I think we have had glimpses of his anger even before. Probably we all have ignored that in the sweetness of initial Abhi-Simi romance.
1.He pulls out the draw in his room and throws it down just after the first jagrata when Simi humiliated him saying dont interfere in her life when he brought out Bhalla issue.
2.Hej ust throws the glass photoframe with his and his sister Anitas picture when he learns ANita Anuj had stolen FD cheque
3.he had thrown the achar bottle down to make simi listen to him about why he took money from Omi.
4.He had thrown down the flower pot when Simi called him bachcha at home when Bhalla came home.
All that incidents shows he is extreme in his anger too. Now with more humiliation on his way that too from an inconsiderate wife, his anger has crossed the limits of control.And the tone and language is matching the angry image he is being given as of now.
People remain sweet and forgive errors as long as they can take.When pushed to the threshold limit, all boundaries are let loose.
Well though I too would love to see both Abhi and Simi sorting differences, I still cannot love the character any less.
But here again,Smriti and Neil have definitely given a wonderful performance together. All the best guys.......as Neil and Smriti AND Abhi and Simi.

Mesimi very well said,
Simi is only and solely responsible for abhis behaviour and to make things worse she is not understanding the mistakes she has been doing and making.
Is she such an adament person, can she think towice before going to his office, she should understand that its his second day and going there and disturbing him is not worth it. she could have waited till he came back.
Simi and abhi should patch up ASAP . but befroe that she should understand her mistake ad priorities.
What and all abhi said is very true and she is has really taken abhi for granted.......... she will really have to struggle to get abhi back.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Mesimi,
You have jolted down all the points of Abhi & Simi beautifully.😆
I just want to say,
Abhi suffered so much. He was keeping his patience till this time, didn't uttered a word, supported Simi in every problems.
But there is a limit for every thing, Simi always taken ABhi for granted, So she deserved it.
Finally iam happy that Abhi gave a good reply to simi.😆
The way Abhi behaved, when his boss said, "yeh apaki badi behen lagti hai."
It was clearly visible from his expressions, that he was angry at the same time was thinking what will my simi will be thinking.
In short, Abhi is suffering million times than Simi.
One more thing, i don't know iam having a strong feeling that, Simbhi will be patched up soon and will be enjoying there private moments (Romantic Night), may be at that time Mili will be raped.,
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mesimi

As Bana said,

He told all right things but yes at wrong time.
But then I think he has suffered enough that he is like this.
New job is not the reason he is behaving like this.When he came back in the afternoon from Chandigarh,he was in his high spirits,happy and teasing simi.
But the secret she kept from him has irritated him no end.
The fact that in spite of being there for her all the time whenever she needed him and still his wife feels that he is incapable of handling a situation is a serious insult to Abhi as a husband,friend and as an individual.
According to the story in Karol bagh, its just the second day after the incident and Abhi landing himself in prison. Any normal person needs his time to come back to normal, cool down his anger and may be later on with a cool mind analyse the situation. But Simi has surely not given him that space and time to come to terms with the fact that she actually hid the truth from Abhi.
Even before his genuine anger has come down, Simi has irritated him. Its true she wants to patch up. But not everyone behaves same. If someone wants his time to come to terms with that fact,its better she does give him that space. He tells her that only....Tumhare faltoo baaton ke liye,i have no time. Instead of apology she continues small talk.And the list of wrong moves from simi for the day.
1.She reminds him he is ghar ka damaad and his responsibility which he has never shirked away from and always done more than his share of duties even when he was not married to Simi.
2.She expects and insists to take half day off.
3.Instead of behaving properly with him that thankfully he came for lunch at Mathurs, she goes to the extent of returning with anger.
4.The way she walked in with anger and turned him around. Did she not grab his arm today to make him listen to her. In fact she is also physically abusing him.
5. In all her anger she speaks to him rude saying he insulted her family. She can show anger on Abhi. When it comes to talking to her mom,Anita,Anuj,Neetu who has wronged her at one time or the other, she is tongue tied. With Bhalla also her reaction is that.Keeping quiet about his taunts. What right she has to direct anger only at Abhi.Because he has been good to her all the time. or she thinks whatever she does to him, eventually abhi will still remain at her feet and at her beck and call.
6.After the confrontation, she again grabs him and asks...Ab kahan ja rahe ho? so what he cant even go anywhere else. the lunch at mathurs is over. so then he will sit and sulk in 12/24 without getting back to his work?
7.She grabbed him too many times to prevent his exit from the room.
8.Then madam decides she has to sort issues and lands up at his office.
What she thought....to sort the small fight that she had with her son to land up and check on him at his school or complain to the class teacher saying my son is not behaving well...please punish him with more homework?
Just imagine....second day at his work, he had already taken permission i think for joining the kitty party i can say at Mathurs.Then the wife turns up at his office to sort family issues. She is not going for her work.Does not mean, he would not have. He was beside her the previous night at home. It has not yet gone to the extent of living in separate rooms. so why go to office...to make a fool out of him there. she cant give him peace at his work also. Exactly that is what Abhi asked her....could not she wait till he got back home.
LIST IS ENDLESS.
Sorry to say again.Though at the wrong time....Abhi has had enough.
Abhi promising Simi will not have to cry in front of anyone after agreeing for his proposal, and telling society the consequences of trying to hurt Simi once more...all this will carry meaning provided Simi as a wife will also reciprocate his concern and love towards her. No relationship can work onesided. In fact simi has to be working twice over to make her marriage work by being there for him and loving him for all the effort he took single handedly in maryying her. what has he got so far in life after meeting her...NEW PROBLEMS>>>NEW PROBLEMS>>>AND NEW PROBLEMS TO SOLVE.
Please give him a break. his anger and language is because of Simi herself.None other.
I think we have had glimpses of his anger even before. Probably we all have ignored that in the sweetness of initial Abhi-Simi romance.
1.He pulls out the draw in his room and throws it down just after the first jagrata when Simi humiliated him saying dont interfere in her life when he brought out Bhalla issue.
2.Hej ust throws the glass photoframe with his and his sister Anitas picture when he learns ANita Anuj had stolen FD cheque
3.he had thrown the achar bottle down to make simi listen to him about why he took money from Omi.
4.He had thrown down the flower pot when Simi called him bachcha at home when Bhalla came home.
All that incidents shows he is extreme in his anger too. Now with more humiliation on his way that too from an inconsiderate wife, his anger has crossed the limits of control.And the tone and language is matching the angry image he is being given as of now.
People remain sweet and forgive errors as long as they can take.When pushed to the threshold limit, all boundaries are let loose.
Well though I too would love to see both Abhi and Simi sorting differences, I still cannot love the character any less.
But here again,Smriti and Neil have definitely given a wonderful performance together. All the best guys.......as Neil and Smriti AND Abhi and Simi.

s i agree with all u have told and especialy what bana told ,but still i feel simi is not ready to ask sorry from abhi ,either abhi is providing her time to speak up her mind. as manju ji said " miyan biwi ka aapas ka mamala hai agar who khud bthet kar nahi suljhayenghe tabhi ek dusre ke nazdhik ayeenghe " if husband and wife dont sit and talk about the issues its never ending, i dont want them to regret that their marriage was a failure ,and to prove the society that they were right that these sort of marriage dont work.at end of the day i want them united as couples facing the socitey and prove their love and marriage is success in all sense.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes Nimi,
A marriage is not success right away. Even if its arranged by elders, man and woman learn over a period of time to accept each others flaws and make their marriage work. In love marriages,it may or may not be easy. But most of the time, partners are willing to forego each others mistake. Problems start when the honeymooning period is over. But here again Abhi and simi have not been together literally for more than one night. So cant say their attraction to each other ended either.
Reason is Simi's behaviour.
Its just a matter of time before they prove that it is actually love that brought them closer and not just a passing fancy which materialised in marriage out of adamance.
If everything is happy happy and cosy between the pair, where is drama in 12/24.
So they will sort their issues.its just a matter of time. and time here means few more episodes of rona-dhona
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mesimi

Yes Nimi,

A marriage is not success right away. Even if its arranged by elders, man and woman learn over a period of time to accept each others flaws and make their marriage work. In love marriages,it may or may not be easy. But most of the time, partners are willing to forego each others mistake. Problems start when the honeymooning period is over. But here again Abhi and simi have not been together literally for more than one night. So cant say their attraction to each other ended either.
Reason is Simi's behaviour.
Its just a matter of time before they prove that it is actually love that brought them closer and not just a passing fancy which materialised in marriage out of adamance.
If everything is happy happy and cosy between the pair, where is drama in 12/24.
So they will sort their issues.its just a matter of time. and time here means few more episodes of rona-dhona

these words r very true ,bcoz every relation needs time to grow,with all these problems
they never ever behaved like newly married, every relation needs mentally and physically to but here simi needs him only for her problems ,but abhi needs her in both ways,that is also making difference in their attitudes. and when ever there is a conversation b/w abhi and simi ,simi always talking about her own family ,what about her family with abhi which is yet not started properly ,and abhi talking about their family ,for her sake he has never turned back to his own family ,which is simi's too .
hope so soon it is "all is well" as we can see a hope of ray(might be RS will get well soon and anuj ready to run bussiness )till milli's problems come.
Edited by nimi2b4u - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Guys I have read all your comments and I agree with everyone 100%. Simi was so worried about her own familys problems that she didnt realise that she is her worst enemy and has created the biggest and most challenging problem for her yet. Please dont misunderstand as I am very sad to see Abhis anger especially as we all know how much of wonderful person he is normally but unfortunately this is all Simis doing. Poor Abhi has had enough and who could blame him. Abhi had previously told Simi that she ignores him and always cares for her family above him when RS was taken ill and taken to hospital but Simi still continued to use Abhi and always cried on his shoulder whenever her family needed help. In my opinion she still doesn't realise what Abhi means to her. He has lost his parents, his comforts of home, sold everything that he owned, had no money, no house but still sacrificed his life to be with simi and never left her side for a minute.
Yet simi still continues to treat him like one of her students. HE IS NOT STUDENT HE IS HER HUSBAND AND DESERVES TO BE TREATED WITH SO MUCH RESPECT AND LOVE. She went to his workplace and what did she achieve? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, in fact I think the situation is only worse. As much as it pains me to say this but I truly believe that Simbhi need to seperate and Simi needs to give abhi time to calm down because her not telling him the truth has absolutely destroyed him and he cannot think with a clear head at the moment. Simi also needs to think about what Abhi means to her and the only way she will realise her love for Abhi is to be away from him and see that she is nothing without him. I am so angry with Simi in the fact that why hasn't she said sorry to Abhi. I know that Abhi isn't giving her much chance but she needs to tell him regardless whether he wants to hear it or not. WHAT IS SHE WAITING FOR.!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Good analysis Mesimi.
I believe the solution now would be for Simi to
1. First give Abhi some time and space to cool down, without making any further demands on him (like the stupid lunch) and speaking normally to him without trying too hard.
2. Second, after a couple of days, she should tell him she wants to have a heart-to-heart, taking care to ask him if he is ready for it and request a patient hearing.
3. When he agrees, she should tell him frankly why she chose to hide RB's proposition, how she thought she could handle it herself without upsetting others, and that she fully realises her folly. She should apologise, 'explaining' not 'justifying' her motives.
4. After that she should assure him that she will not choose this way again and will share her problems with him. She should also reassure that she trusts him to solve all their problems and take care of her, mentioning the numerous occasions he has done so (this is her chance to show that she appreciates what he does for her and her family).
5. Lastly she should gently tell him that it worries her that he is so protective about her that he gets so angry and reacts, causing problems for himself. She should request a promise that he will control his anger and react more coolly to the Bhalla situation. She should tell him that she wants to together come up with plan to counter Bhalla.
I don't think she should bring up the issue of prioritising her family over him - Abhi only brought that up in anger, he has never questioned it until now. Instead she should show in action (by spending more time with him, going out, making plans for eventually moving out of KB) that he comes first for her.
Edited by Bana - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Bana wish every word of yours comes true.
That is what is absolutely required
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Well said bana..and mesimi and I just wrote this for Neil/Abhi in another thread and had to paste it here.. BTW loved your post**mesimi!

HERE IS WHAT I WROTE ON ANOTHER THREAD😍
And this flaw proves the lack of creativity from the get go on the part of the creative writing team's part......Abhi/Neil is an extremely conversant* and gifted actor** and for them to change his image,and his characteristic over night is why,?, ..we the loyal viewers are having time to accept him in this infuriated and provoked image and to say the least as an angry husband...A mediocre* or any mainstream* actor wouldn't have put these doubts but again this shows and proves his par excellence,ability and talent to be a versatile* and accomplished actor



Abhi is shown in all those romantic moments all along to have the temper but we decided to overlook it and just saw him as a romantic protagonist but mesimi all those incidents and happenings were there and now for him to show them is not only justifiable* and condonable* on his part but also the right time too because now he has a job and a brand new one and any 22 year old would be tensed under these circumstances... and that is exactly what is happening. Given he was happy when he came home but the broken trust by Simi and constant provoking by Bhala has played a major part in his new avatar*..😍

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