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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

Mothers like Manju DO EXIST in real life!
My own mother was like that before we got married!

I am oldest of 3 sisters, we didnt have a brother, so she always felt guilty and desperate to get all 3 of us married ASAP so she could prove to the whole world she had succeeded in some way!

Mothers like that think a daughter can not be secure or respectable until she is married and has the title Mrs ahead of her name.....even if the daughters are highly educated, independant, get fat paychecks, they are still incomplete and embarassing until theyre Mrs. so and so...

I was only 23 when I got married but for one year preceding that, I was bullied and taunted by my mother that I had to slim down to avoid rejections by the grooms ! I wasnt even as overweight as Simi but had curves in the right places. 😆

But she wanted me to diet severely, exercise everyday. She took me to Yoga classes every single day after college and made me walk all the way there and back.
I remember on my 23rd birthday she didnt even get a cake for me but fed me 2 chapatis with vegetables and fruits all day.
And I was ONLY 23!!

She was frantic that if she couldnt marry me off early enuf, how would she get my younger sisters married? (they were 20 and 18 at that time)
We sisters used to joke that one day she would get up and get me married to the first guy she saw in the morning....that is our sweeper! 😆

My middle sister started working in a Multinational Bank so she had more clout and could say NO to some rishtas, that made my Mom really mad, she thought my sister would never get married and be an old working spinster.

Another example: My grandma! .....MY Nani abused my Mausi who was very overweight.... becuz she was getting rejected by all prospective grooms.
My Mausi was a big woman, she still is, she spent her childhood in Nigeria and had a spurt of growth there... as a result she was a tall, heavy woman in her 20s, like an Amazon. Its hard to get desi men that size....
Anyways, my Naani used to starve my Maasi, put her on a diet, sent her to Yoga classes.
Naani and her favorite maid servant used to taunt my Maasi and make fun of her!

The verbal abuse and taunting got so bad that one day, my Mausi almost got run over by a local train. She was crossing the rail tracks and lost in her thoughts, upset abt what was happening. A passerby pulled her back in the nick of time otherwise....

The funny thing is all 3 of us sisters did get married quite early...at 23,24 and 24 respectively. But after the weddings my mother used to complain that we didnt visit her often or take her anywhere. First she wanted to get us married and packed off to sasurals......then she wanted us to be at her beck and call, even when we have other fish to fry in our sasurals....

Indian Moms are the WORST breed! They shd take lessons from American Moms here who devote their lives for their children, support them thru divorces, hardships....babysit for them, give up their jobs to look after their daughter's kids....theyre amazing! What real mothers shd be like!
I look at them and wish I had a mother like that! 😭

pallavi

😆😆Interesting life story of urs Pallavi..Num.23..😆mothers do have tension when their daughters are in 20's...they think abt society seeing other girls marrying they get tensed n worried..once their daughters are married..thn they feel lonely..and they keep on buggin them ki ghar kab aa rahi ho..meri health theek nahi hai...😆😃
Sometimes they are in extremes..like i read abt ur nani n maasi..😕
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramas

Manju is worst than kasai she has tobbed simi;s childhood and now she is robbing ehr happiness. She has made Simi this way. The way she talks I want to hit her. I hate to see her face. She is disgusting . Hoe can a mom curses her child so much. So waht simi is overweight. she is prettier than many slim girls. Probabely she must be making simi nervous evry time a suitable boy came to see her and may be that is why she got rejected and what is this obsession of marrying her,

She is agrown up woman let her live life the way she wants and find her mate.
many girls leave happily being single and are content with their lives.
Smi is not som handicap person that has to be looked after.
Mnaju is sick psychotic mother..

I agree with u Raksha...Manju is worst thn Kasaai...she has no feelings for her daughters..she is more concered abt her social status..betiyan ghar mein kunwari kyun baithi hai?..manju is so blinded by tht she cannot the character of RB..and just want Simi to marry with tht butcher...she doesnt think after marriage RB and his mother will torture her and thn she has to cry for life time regretting..Rajendra Sethi shud teach her lesson..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I can understand what Manju is going through and also what simi is going through.. because i really corelate to this situation. as i was a cute little 'suggy bear' at leats thats what my friends call me, my mom was like dont eat this eat that... it might hurt me at the moment but why is she saying that.... for my well being. you dont know what this society is like... some how or the other they come to this topic,
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Simi has 2 younger sis and 2 younger bro... and they cant get married unless she gets marired... and also the reason manju is very upset is because they are doing the younger brothers marriage earlier and normally that is against the tradition. i mean think in practical life if some thing like that happens you will start hearing many things from the society and there will be very few who will be able to be strong... may be 5% but rest they will be emotionally be deprived.
Iam telling this from my own experience... today we can hate Manju or say her step mom but only a mom can understand the pressure.... so lets not hate Manju or infact any mom... I love my mom even though i feel bad at the moment.. but that is understandable right !!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishikaek43

I can understand what Manju is going through and also what simi is going through.. because i really corelate to this situation. as i was a cute little 'suggy bear' at leats thats what my friends call me, my mom was like dont eat this eat that... it might hurt me at the moment but why is she saying that.... for my well being. you dont know what this society is like... some how or the other they come to this topic,
😭 😭
Simi has 2 younger sis and 2 younger bro... and they cant get married unless she gets marired... and also the reason manju is very upset is because they are doing the younger brothers marriage earlier and normally that is against the tradition. i mean think in practical life if some thing like that happens you will start hearing many things from the society and there will be very few who will be able to be strong... may be 5% but rest they will be emotionally be deprived.
Iam telling this from my own experience... today we can hate Manju or say her step mom but only a mom can understand the pressure.... so lets not hate Manju or infact any mom... I love my mom even though i feel bad at the moment.. but that is understandable right !!!
😊 😊

i agree societal pressure is a lot to handle..am not very pretty and am short and i know wot ridiculous stuff my mother has had to hear coz of tht..it never mattered to me bt it hurt my ma a lot..bt she dint turn back and get me married off to the first tom,dick or harry she came across..she told me my strengths at every point of life possible,so tht these thing dont start to hurt me at ne point in life..tht is wot bugs me abt manjuji's character..no matter how much pressure the society puts on u,are u not supposed to think of ur daughter's life ahead?i mean a guy like RB?i wudnt even torture my worst enemy wid spending her entire life wid tht sleazeball..her own daughter?how yaar?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I AGREE 100% WITH JC AND ISHIKAEK43
JC HAS WRITTEN
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I am not here to defend Manju's behavior which i also consider appalling at times. But i wouldn't say that she doesn't love Simi or is her sauteli maa. Real mothers are rude and mean to their children too and it doesn't mean they love them less.

Like today when Simi stepped inside, the way Maju looked at her photographs at Kutub Minar and commented how pretty the pics came out and makes note of the special fact that Simi looks happy in the photograph... only a mother concerned about her daughter in the deepest way will make note of the small things. But the fact is that Manju has three daughters and the society she lives in [and lets be honest... we have seen what the people in their neighborhood are like] makes her feel insecure and anxious about their future. END OF jc'S POST..

TODAY MANJUJI EVEN TOLD SIMMI'S CHACHI THAT SHE'LL INVITE OTHER LADIES AND EXPLAIN THAT SIMMI WAS NOT AT A FAULT FOR HER WEDDING TO BE CALLED OFF AND THEY'RE GETTING GOOD ALLIANCES FOR SIMMI.... ONLY A LOVING MOTHER CAN THINK LIKE THIS..MANJUjI IS ONLY OVERCONCERNED ABOUT HER CHILDREN😭..SHE'S NO WITCH OR SAUTELI-MAA!!!!!😲WUTCHANJUJI IS OVER CONCERNED ABOUT HER CHILDREN....NOT A SAUTELI//WICKED-WITCH TYPE..!!

Edited by iamindian - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu rulz

i agree societal pressure is a lot to handle..am not very pretty and am short and i know wot ridiculous stuff my mother has had to hear coz of tht..it never mattered to me bt it hurt my ma a lot..bt she dint turn back and get me married off to the first tom,dick or harry she came across..she told me my strengths at every point of life possible,so tht these thing dont start to hurt me at ne point in life..tht is wot bugs me abt manjuji's character..no matter how much pressure the society puts on u,are u not supposed to think of ur daughter's life ahead?i mean a guy like RB?i wudnt even torture my worst enemy wid spending her entire life wid tht sleazeball..her own daughter?how yaar?

Ishika i can understand tht manju has three daughters..she is eager to see Simi settling down..but tht doesnt mean she has to spend a life with a Rogue RB..my point is that when Manju came to knw that RB misbehaved n blackmailed SImi..instead of supoorting her daughter she got upset n taunt her..which is wrong...Manju's duty that time was to call police herself and see to it tht RB is put behind bars..but she was concerned abt society...if the family doesnt support at crucial times thn wat will we call them?..Manju was absolutely wrong...
Regarding if this happens in real life as u said...these things do happen in our society, many weddings are called off due to dowry demands or some other matters...but the society knows the truth and they wont open their mouth...Yes but if the family is at fault thn the society talks...and here the prime importance is Simi and injustice done to her by RB..so Manju shud have rised and supported her daughter..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Agree wth u set_raj ji..I just hate Manju's character...
and dear pallavi, I think Indian mothers are great and not exactly like Manju..Your Mom might be starving u, worried for ur marriage but she can never get u married to a person like Rajiv bhalla after knowing his reality..American Moms never interfere in their daughter's lives..may be for good but sometimes if the daughter is young and doesn't know her good or bad, may marry a bad man/ hv kids without marrying, do u think an American mom will stop her from doing so?? She may just try to persuade her daughter not to take such a step, but she'll not go out of her way to stop it from happening, whereas an Indian mother can never let her daughter hv an illicit kid out of an affair or marry a drunkard/characterless man. This may happen very very rarely in case of very poor people who may be starving and cannot just manage without marrying/selling their daughters off..
An Indian mother might seem to be rude to her daughter but thats always for her good..And a woman leaving her job for her grandkid is not a very grt thg because as it is, she wd be in her 50's or 60's..but there are numerous Indian women who have sacrificed their career for their kids(son or daughter, doesnt matter) even in early 30's...(I myself fall into such category)
Edited by lifeztuf - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: lifeztuf

Agree wth u set_raj ji..I just hate Manju's character...

and dear pallavi, I think Indian mothers are great and not exactly like Manju..Your Mom might be starving u, worried for ur marriage but she can never get u married to a person like Rajiv bhalla after knowing his reality..American Moms never interfere in their daughter's lives..may be for good but sometimes if the daughter is young and doesn't know her good or bad, may marry a bad man/ hv kids without marrying, do u think an American mom will stop her from doing so?? She may just try to persuade her daughter not to take such a step, but she'll not go out of her way to stop it from happening, whereas an Indian mother can never let her daughter hv an illicit kid out of an affair or marry a drunkard/characterless man. This may happen very very rarely in case of very poor people who may be starving and cannot just manage without marrying/selling their daughters off..


An Indian mother might seem to be rude to her daughter but thats always for her good..And a woman leaving her job for her grandkid is not a very grt thg becauseas it is, she wd be in her 50's or 60's..but there are numerous Indian women who have sacrificed their career for their kids(son or daughter,doesnt matter)even in early 30's...(I myself fall into such category)



I dont expect u to understand or empathize with my situation or my aunt's.
As they say: Aap Beeti aur jispar beeti wahi jaaney!

Throughout my adult life, my mother has never been supportive of anything Ive done or helped me in any way!
Im a mother of a grown up daughter! I always encourage her, guide her, try to build her confidence. Of course I chide her when she goes overboard and still try to monitor her activities without being stifling! Its a balancing act, very delicate but essential!

Mothers like Manju destroy their daughter's confidence and self-worth! She was willing to marry Simi to a perverted creep like RB, even after learning what he did! 😡

Such mothers are not uncommon in India! What about those mothers or parents who send their daughter back to her abusive sasural, knowing she might end up dead?
What about those mothers who advise their daughter to live with an abusive husband because divorce is not an option? Ive seen that happen!

These mothers dont do this for the daughter's welfare or happiness but to avoid criticism of people around them, namely relatives, neighbours, social circles!
The constant fear "Log kya kahengey" drives them to destroy the daughter's life and happiness and sometimes even result in her death!

The child's happiness and self-worth is worth 1000000 times more than what stupid neighbours say or think! 😡
I would never jeopardize my child's future because of what society thinks or says! They dont feed me, pay me or govern my life!

pallavi
Edited by pallavi25 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25



I dont expect u to understand or empathize with my situation or my aunt's.
As they say: Aap Beeti aur jispar beeti wahi jaaney!

Throughout my adult life, my mother has never been supportive of anything Ive done or helped me in any way!
Im a mother of a grown up daughter! I always encourage her, guide her, try to build her confidence. Of course I chide her when she goes overboard and still try to monitor her activities without being stifling! Its a balancing act, very delicate but essential!

Mothers like Manju destroy their daughter's confidence and self-worth! She was willing to marry Simi to a perverted creep like RB, even after learning what he did! 😡

Such mothers are not uncommon in India! What about those mothers or parents who send their daughter back to her abusive sasural, knowing she might end up dead?
What about those mothers who advise their daughter to live with an abusive husband because divorce is not an option? Ive seen that happen!

These mothers dont do this for the daughter's welfare or happiness but to avoid criticism of people around them, namely relatives, neighbours, social circles!
The constant fear "Log kya kahengey" drives them to destroy the daughter's life and happiness and sometimes even result in her death!

The child's happiness and self-worth is worth 1000000 times more than what stupid neighbours say or think! 😡
I would never jeopardize my child's future because of what society thinks or says! They dont feed me, pay me or govern my life!

pallavi

Well said Pallavi..this fear of..''Log kya kahenge'' has killed many daughters...destroyed many future..bright career..thts the reason i hv called her sauteli..cos the mother who is worried abt society will never do any gud to her daughter..i wudhv been happy if Manju had come forward just like her husband to set a gud example..tht she concerned abt her daughter's happy life and future rather thn taunting her and mkaing fun of her..i was really shocked knwing tht RB is a perverted creep and absolute useless man..she still wanted Simi to marry him...all in the name of society..?..
She never thought wat if RB n his mother torture Simi and make her life miserable..will she remain happy knowing tht?...😡
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I will add myself to the long list of people who despise Manju's actions.

Deep down inside, she is a mother and loves her children. But at some point, it stopped mattering. The son's marriage and happiness was important. Simi's marriage, and that of Mili and Nitu, are stressful and miserable for her. She views their marriage in the way many Indian people do--a burden.

Manju is willing to pimp out her daughter (forgive the language) to just get it done. Nothing has worked for Simi, and she is making no proactive effort to change slightly, if it's the right thing to do. Nor does she show all that much interest, quite frankly. (prior to RB and all the complications)

Simi is a good person, again a self-sacrificing daughter 😡. All that has happened in the past (marriage proposals not working out) has hurt her deeply, and I do not understand how Manju does not see this in her daughter. It would break my heart to see my daughter in that situation.

Manju has proven herself to be a unyielding witch. To say those hurtful things over and over again is not to be tolerated. How can you blame your daughter for the horrible things that have happened TO HER? How can you blame her for not wanting a depraved pervert as her husband?

Sometimes, I wish Simi would respectfully and firmly say something to her mother. It is way overdue.

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