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Team Abhira (Gen 4)

Posted: 8 months ago

Originally posted by: Ankitanair


See they have still kept arman ka core character intact voh khud bezati hota hei but dusre ko nhi karta hei that's how he is portrayed

yes he’s exactly how they portrayed him from the intial promo..he’s very grateful to that Poddar family for giving him a place in their home and life. So he’ll put them first often..until he realises they did him no favour and he has every right being part of that family..we will always get him conflicted between standing with his family even when they are wrong and taking abhiras side…
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Posted: 8 months ago

Kya hi hoga anjaam. Separation hone ke baad yeh track bhi khatam. Separation purpose served. Abhir is not dead. So bail pe hi bahar rahegi. And the case will also be forgotten.

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Team Abhira (Gen 4)

Posted: 8 months ago

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Abhimanyu was not a bad person but Armaan is a better person. His dependence on his family didn't make him push, manhandle and throw divorce papers at her lowest, or act like a mad bull. He conversed and put forth his disappointment and perspective in a much civil way. He didn't humiliate her.

yes todays episode was very different from Gen 3 white day..but white day was so traumatic and painful for everyone…Neil a good character died..young Arohi was a widow…her unborn child lost her father..akshu lost 1 baby.. so that situation can’t be compared to today.because here vidya got what she deserved and she’s such a horrible character …and seeing abhimaan.’we feel sorry for both who are stuck with those irritating families ..and after todays scene..it just felt like they will have a very emotional reunion in the near future…but abhimanyu thrashing the Room and being so violent on White day was in line with his personality..he was an aggressive man and he was loud and arrogant…so he showed his pain with violence ..that made viewers angry with him because he ignored his wife’s pain completely and put all the blame on her her when his brother was killed by goons.
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Team Abhira (Gen 4)

Posted: 8 months ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Kya hi hoga anjaam. Separation hone ke baad yeh track bhi khatam. Separation purpose served. Abhir is not dead. So bail pe hi bahar rahegi. And the case will also be forgotten.

yeah but vidya will become the villain again..to keep abhimaan apart…otherwise they were going to reunite 🤷🏻‍♀️..looks like that was the reason for this track..
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Posted: 8 months ago

Vidya is still a villain. Just because she thinks she is innocent, doesn’t mean she is. She is the biggest vamp of the Poddar family.

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Team Abhira (Gen 4)

Posted: 8 months ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Vidya is still a villain. Just because she thinks she is innocent, doesn’t mean she is. She is the biggest vamp of the Poddar family.

yes but before the accident she wanted abhimaan to get back together..but now she’ll want to separate them,again…Vidya is the villain and the most dangerous one for abhimaan..because she knows how to manipulate and control Armaan. In that respect even kaveri doesn’t have vidyas power 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Posted: 8 months ago

Until now, the writers showed how Armaan’s actions affected Abhira which led to her decisions. For the first time, the roles have been reversed, Abhira’s decision to stand by her brother even after knowing how it’s going to reflect on their marriage. This isn’t about who is wrong or right, it’s about is their love strong enough to sustain despite their actions or is it just an illusion.

Armaan - For Armaan, this case was never about Abhir or even about Vidya when it comes to Abhira. This is always about her not choosing him, hurting him at his weakest spot, Vidya. She knows how important Vidya is to Armaan, it’s not about her standing for her brother, but her going against Armaan, who went against Vidya to marry Abhira. Armaan himself knew there was only one outcome to this court case, his question about what outcome did you expect to Abhira reflects that. Is he wrong in expecting Abhira not fight for her brother, yes but Armaan is never going to go against his family even when he knows they are wrong or support Abhira when his family involved. Despite how he has been treated all his life, they are his identity, almost most of his family loves him, even his grandmother eventually bends to his will. The only time Vidya didn’t stand by him is for his decision to marry Abhira. He has been forgiven after each one of his mistakes, be it leaving Ruhi at the altar, choosing the girl they were against, even keeping the truth about babies. From his point of view, it’s true that he has always fought for their relationship. Every time, his family was against their relationship, he stood strong in his decision that he will win her back and has been successful too. So, his opinion that he is the one who has always put in most efforts to hold onto their relationship isn’t entirely untrue.

Armaan has always been with the fear that Abhira might leave him at any point, Abhira validated his fear by signing the divorce papers. This is a guy who has always lived with the fear of being abandoned by his family, he expected that permanency in their relationship and believed Abhira would fulfill that void. Armaan is cognizant that he has made lots of mistakes, which is why every time he messes up the relationship he goes to extreme steps to make sure he doesn’t lose Abhira again. For a man who has been made to feel like his mere existence is a mistake his whole life, he expected Abhira to be that one person who would forgive him all his faults and accept him as he is; which is why he keeps reiterating he isn’t perfect and may make mistakes again. Ironically, Abhira has been unable to do both for Armaan. Every time, her first reaction has been to leave Armaan and give up on their relationship. He isn’t giving up their love, just their relationship. Armaan knows Abhira loves him a lot and she is right in her place. For a person who has always had to live life according to other’s expectations, their relationship was supposed to be the one where he could be free, but ultimately he ended up in the same place. It’s not surprising that he has finally reached that breaking point and is finally deciding to let go of the expectations.

Armaan needs to understand that their marriage is independent of his family. If he feels Abhira gives up on their relationship every time, he has directly and indirectly led her to make the decision. Most of all he needs to understand that he cannot keep breaking Abhira in the worst possible way and expect to be forgiven after few days of regretting and few sweet gestures, only to end up giving another bigger heartbreak.

Abhira - The biggest strength of Abhira has been her ability to understand other’s point of view, which is why she isn’t angry at Armaan even when she knows she is right, she understands that this hasn’t been easy choice for him as well, especially when she knows how much his family and Vidya mean to him. Abhira’s biggest complaint to Armaan even during their deal marriage has been that their marriage is so unreliable that anyone can make the decision to have them divorced, yet ironically she let the same thing happen now. She inadvertently did the same thing to Armaan, unreliability and lack of longevity, that she may walk out any time. The day she decided to give Armaan and her marriage a chance, she made a conscious decision to accept everything as part of the deal, all the love from family members, place at the firm where previously even woman working was impossible, and mostly the insults and humiliation that came with it. Until now she accepted everything for Armaan, her only real family and this is the price she chose to pay. Goenkas and Abhir coming into her life doesn’t change the fact that Abhira would still accept all this for Armaan.

Until now, she has been the emotionally strong one in this relationship, which is why every time she has been able to make the decision to either leave or choose this relationship. Consciously, she has been always aware that she wants to be with Armaan, which is why she has been able to forgive all his mistakes eventually. The only difference between now and then has been Armaan, the subconscious assurance that Armaan will convince her and will always be there for her waiting. For the first time the roles have been reversed, Armaan has decided to leave their relationship. Abhira has set an expectation to Armaan that she will forgive him every time, despite being given the biggest heartbreaks and betrayals. She made a conscious decision to go back to him every time, but she needs to decide what she wants from this relationship, either she needs to accept that Armaan isn’t going to change, especially when it comes to his family or just walk away once and for all. She needs to understand that their relationship, especially one that’s solely reliant on the equations of other family members, isn’t going to be a walk in the park. If she wants this relationship, she can be upset, she can be angry, can take her time to heal, but by being in the same house with Armaan, rather than walking out and giving up on the relationship every time. Otherwise, as Armaan said they both are going to end resenting each other

Edited by ItvDrama - 8 months ago
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Posted: 8 months ago

Originally posted by: ItvDrama

Until now, the writers showed how Armaan’s actions affected Abhira which led to her decisions. For the first time, the roles have been reversed, Abhira’s decision to stand by her brother even after knowing how it’s going to reflect on their marriage. This isn’t about who is wrong or right, it’s about is their love strong enough to sustain despite their actions or is it just an illusion.

Armaan - For Armaan, this case was never about Abhir or even about Vidya when it comes to Abhira. This is always about her not choosing him, hurting him at his weakest spot, Vidya. She knows how important Vidya is to Armaan, it’s not about her standing for her brother, but her going against Armaan, who went against Vidya to marry Abhira. Armaan himself knew there was only one outcome to this court case, his question about what outcome did you expect to Abhira reflects that. Is he wrong in expecting Abhira not fight for her brother, yes but Armaan is never going to go against his family even when he knows they are wrong or support Abhira when his family involved. Despite how he has been treated all his life, they are his identity, almost most of his family loves him, even his grandmother eventually bends to his will. The only time Vidya didn’t stand by him is for his decision to marry Abhira. He has been forgiven after each one of his mistakes, be it leaving Ruhi at the altar, choosing the girl they were against, even keeping the truth about babies. From his point of view, it’s true that he has always fought for their relationship. Every time, his family was against their relationship, he stood strong in his decision that he will win her back and has been successful too. So, his opinion that he is the one who has always put in most efforts to hold onto their relationship isn’t entirely untrue.

Armaan has always been with the fear that Abhira might leave him at any point, Abhira validated his fear by signing the divorce papers. This is a guy who has always lived with the fear of being abandoned by his family, he expected that permanency in their relationship and believed Abhira would fulfill that void. Armaan is cognizant that he has made lots of mistakes, which is why every time he messes up the relationship he goes to extreme steps to make sure he doesn’t lose Abhira again. For a man who has been made to feel like his mere existence is a mistake his whole life, he expected Abhira to be that one person who would forgive him all his faults and accept him as he is; which is why he keeps reiterating he isn’t perfect and may make mistakes again. Ironically, Abhira has been unable to do both for Armaan. Every time, her first reaction has been to leave Armaan and give up on their relationship. He isn’t giving up their love, just their relationship. Armaan knows Abhira loves him a lot and she is right in her place. For a person who has always had to live life according to other’s expectations, their relationship was supposed to be the one where he could be free, but ultimately he ended up in the same place. It’s not surprising that he has finally reached that breaking point and is finally deciding to let go of the expectations.

Armaan needs to understand that their marriage is independent of his family. If he feels Abhira gives up on their relationship every time, he has directly and indirectly led her to make the decision. Most of all he needs to understand that he cannot keep breaking Abhira in the worst possible way and expect to be forgiven after few days of regretting and few sweet gestures, only to end up giving another bigger heartbreak.

Abhira - The biggest strength of Abhira has been her ability to understand other’s point of view, which is why she isn’t angry at Armaan even when she knows she is right, she understands that this hasn’t been easy choice for him as well, especially when she knows how much his family and Vidya mean to him. Abhira’s biggest complaint to Armaan even during their deal marriage has been that their marriage is so unreliable that anyone can make the decision to have them divorced, yet ironically she let the same thing happen now. She inadvertently did the same thing to Armaan, unreliability and lack of longevity, that she may walk out any time. The day she decided to give Armaan and her marriage a chance, she made a conscious decision to accept everything as part of the deal, all the love from family members, place at the firm where previously even woman working was impossible, and mostly the insults and humiliation that came with it. Until now she accepted everything for Armaan, her only real family and this is the price she chose to pay. Goenkas and Abhir coming into her life doesn’t change the fact that Abhira would still accept all this for Armaan.

Until now, she has been the emotionally strong one in this relationship, which is why every time she has been able to make the decision to either leave or choose this relationship. Consciously, she has been always aware that she wants to be with Armaan, which is why she has been able to forgive all his mistakes eventually. The only difference between now and then has been Armaan, the subconscious assurance that Armaan will convince her and will always be there for her waiting. For the first time the roles have been reversed, Armaan has decided to leave their relationship. Abhira has set an expectation to Armaan that she will forgive him every time, despite being given the biggest heartbreaks and betrayals. She made a conscious decision to go back to him every time, but she needs to decide what she wants from this relationship, either she needs to accept that Armaan isn’t going to change, especially when it comes to his family or just walk away once and for all. She needs to understand that their relationship, especially one that’s solely reliant on the equations of other family members, isn’t going to be a walk in the park. If she wants this relationship, she can be upset, she can be angry, can take her time to heal, but by being in the same house with Armaan, rather than walking out and giving up on the relationship every time. Otherwise, as Armaan said they both are going to end resenting each other

@red Completely Agree

@bold Disagreed. Everytime? This was the first time she actually walked out and gave up after official relationship and marriage.

Deal Marriage-Armaan wanted to divorce Abhira fulfilling KP's demand. Armaan gave up first then Abhira gave up. Armaan didn't love Abhira that time so won't count it giving up on relationship.

Ar-Ru time-Abhimaan were not in relationship. She didn't promise him anything to be expected not to give up.

Infertility Track- She didn't want to get married for the right reason as Vidya mata made their life a living hell during that time and Armaan gave up on mending their relationship. It was Vidya mata who demanded her son's name won't be written on Abhira's hand and he couldn't react that time. After marriage he let go of their gatbandhan and ran behing his maa. Returned back drunk on their SR ignored his newly wedded bride whom he promised happiness and whatnot. He shut her out completely. He regretted marrying her against mata's wish. Who gave up? Armaan/Abhira?

3 Months after marriage- Armaan distanced herself from her more as they stopped sharing meals, stopped communicating, he was too harsh on her infront of clients in office or in home, because of Vidya mata's shraap and narazgi after thousand promises (don't promise anything if family is the priority). They bickered, had bitterness & emotional distance. I still couldn't understand how they did the deed repeatedly in that mood. The way Vidya even Armaan treated Abhira during those three months, she didn't give up on their relationship, it required maturity and understanding. You wrote beautiful analysis that time too. Abhira didn't give up on her marriage and didn't walk out.

Pregnancy track- Abhira wanted to give him a family who won't abandon him or call him sutela etc. They had disagreement and arguments with no family member involved. He was right in his perspective but later on they made him apologize for asking her to abort the child, Abhira didn't give up on her marriage or relationship or didn't walk out.

Child's in equation- She was given a hope to be broken forever. Armaan knew Rohit wanted his child back still he didn't tell truth to Abhira. Constantly lying every single day, admitting to have swapped babies, depriving her of last goodbye or feeling of the child she loved above herself, but then he promised to make things right. He wanted to correct it all. Even after being the victim of the situation she was humiliated by his Dadisa and he asked her to keep quiet kyunke Dadisa bari hain? Wasn't inability to be a mother, a sensitive issue or vulnerability for her? Still he expected her to let it go kyunke Dadisa bari hai. It's Abhira's fault too as she didn't set boundaries with Poddars.

Abhir's accident - I'm 100% sure if Abhir was the culprit and Vidya/xyz Poddar were the victim Abhira would've made sure he would be sent to prison. We can't expect same from Armaan. But Armaan is behaving as if Abhira framed Vidya mata. Him questioning her if u didn't want to punish maa why u filed case against her was apt! but after that those one-sided dialogues began.

Hum donon ney apna baby khoya tha par fark kya tha? Main tumhara dard bantna chahta tha yeh mera pyaar tha aur tumne yeh kagaz bhej kar "mujhe aur dard diya"

How could Armaan share her pain when he was the reason of pain? Even after giving her pain and betrayal he talked about "mujhe aur dard diya"?

If giving up on relationship, most of the times was said about Naira/Akshu I could've agreed. From leaving home 4-5 times, faking death, keeping the child away to punish husband was common and natural for them. But Abhira has been prone to humiliation just because she loves Armaan and can't give up on him.

Abhira: Left home once after love confession and marriage, gave up on relationship once (Ar-Ru past revelation), gave up on marriage once (signed divorce papers first). Concealed truth about pregnancy.

Armaan: Gave up on relationship once (3 months), gave up on marriage once (signed divorce papers). Concealed truth about BSP's death, Daksh not being their child, Rohit's involvement in baby swap.

Aren't they equal in giving up?

Edited by ShadowImbue - 8 months ago
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Posted: 8 months ago

I am so disappointed in this Armaan character - despite fighting for Abhir, Abhira had tears and empathy for Vidya but he could not offer one single moment of compassion to Abhir, saying he regretted that this happened with Abhir and was so sorry for him? And this man talks about holding the marriage and what not? He is free to support his mother. The problem is he does not show one ounce of respect to Abhira's single most significant relationship outside her marriage and he expects Abhira to prioritise his family over everything.

Well Armaan has always disappointed me and with every next track he sinks further and what is worse is that he is always given another person to hide behind. If he is writing Shiv Shakti - it is Ruhi who is manipulating him, if he is breaking mangalsutra in the most inhuman manner - it is Dadisa making him do it, if he cuts Abhira out emotionally - it's Vidya's fault for cursing him, if he is stealing someone's kid - that too is Rohit's fault for initiating the swap, if he is completely ignoring Abhir's pain that too is because Abhira wants to punish his mother. Where is his own agency? He is a 5 year old not to understand the significance of his actions and not being able to read any situation? He can't understand that being taunted as infertile (both before and after losing her baby) is painful for Abhira, just like being abused (along with her recently deceased mother) for the deal marriage (where he was an equal partner) by his family was painful earlier? Just like how her brother getting handicapped is a highly painful life changing event for her family - and it would be okay to apologise a few extra times and handle it sensitively? Not sure how anybody feels he is a good partner for anybody.

What's worse is the comments I read that Abhir should respect Abhira's marriage. This guy has lost everything, is close to killing himself out of desperation and at this lowest point he does not owe anyone anything. Abhira had full rights to say she cannot be involved as a lawyer due to conflict of interest as she cares for Vidya too and if he had forced Abhira in anyway then it would be his fault. But he didn't. That was Abhira's decision and if her marriage breaks it is not on Abhir.

Also I think that Vidya's punishment is very harsh for her crime - why is noone in Poddar family blaming phupha for that ( I won't be surprised if it was a deliberate sabotage)? Not only shady means were used for this case, they were caught red handed doing that and now Vidya and Armaan only want revenge on Abhira. Is everyone in Poddar firm that incompetent?

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Posted: 8 months ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Leap aayega fir kisko faraq padta hai. 10 saal jail toh nahi jayegi. It is just like Daksh is Abhira baby wala hope smiley2

Exactly. I don’t remember Pakhi going to jail after getting a bail. TV courts are a joke. Getting a bail doesn’t mean one doesn’t serve their punishment. But here on itv they get a bail meaning they got free

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