Preleap Abhimanyu and I *short version added*

Beware: A freaking long post!!!!

Disclaimer: Maybe many people will not agree to this post... Many many people did not even think these things like this before. These are just my thoughts. I thought I will share

Tagging few people whose usernames I kinda remember.. Don't feel pressurized to read if yo don't want to read

Today I saw pre-leap episodes i.e: from Ak learning about her fertility problem from Arohi to white day episode. (Yeah I know I wasted my Sunday afternoon.. But it was so sunny outside.. I didn't want to go out.. do not judge me for my laziness)

So I wanted to do this before As I wanted to confirm somethings.

This all started when I saw this thing: whenever Someone accuses AbhiM of throwing Ak because of the miscarriage then, Some other will post the clips where AbhiM was ready to abort the baby for Ak even when Ak wanted to. Theoretically I should be awed by that.. A husband who ready to sacrifice kids for the wife. It is the textbook definition off a wonderful husband.. aren't there many husbands who treat their wives as baby making machines? But I was at so loss.. as to why I couldn't feel it.... And this happens every time someone shares the clips.. I was just not feeling anything.. And I just couldn't understand why? As A person, who always want to find out more about myself than others..(self analyzing and being self critical is my habit more than a hobby😭) I thought about it a lot.. Then one day, while discussing it with my mom(because I am weird) I suddenly understood why I couldn't feel it..

I found out the reason.. but I still wanted to make sure.. so I saw the pre leap episodes.

It may have been the way they executed the scenes.. or HC couldn't act properly.. but AbhiM looked like super depressed the whole time. He looked like a prisoner who was punished and is accepting his punishment. Maybe this is just my POV.. but he looked like he was a victim.

Yes, He should be sad.. yes, He have every right to be sad when he hears such news.. But the way they presented it.. it felt he was more sad than ak.. It is always so extreme about him.

When he says he does not want to to do the surgery...

Wait... side tracking a minute here... What was the need to be so angry at Harsh about the surgery..The surgery would not have killed her right?.. He can just not make pregnant right.. protections.. or other ways of birth control... The surgery could have made her overall health a little more better right? What was the extreme anger and tearing the papers for?

coming back...

When he says he does not want to to do the surgery...and when ak tries to convince him... he looks so sad.. and still says.. let's just be happy with each other.. that scene could have so much better if he looked a little less 'resigned to my fate' and more "let's find happiness our own way"

AbhiM was really sad.. devastated.. and helpless.. but so was Ak.

In my life, I have seen many couples who are childless.. and they were each others support system. I saw my uncle cheering up my aunt with my eyes.. He was also broken to hear the same result.. test after test.. but he was like a big support system.. He would joke around after some days.. He tried to look cheerful for her.. And she knew that he was also that deeply affected..They both wanted to be each others support during the troubled times.. their pain was not more important than their partners...

Here, AbhiM did not try much to see any hope.. nor he was trying to look as if he was getting over it. He looked almost always sad.. He looked tortured..

Admitting that.. here I could say the direction was also so bad. The pacing was so stupidly fast. Neil arohi's reception to Ak knowing truth-> to full family finding about Ak truth to ak surgery suggestion to ak pregnancy .. There was no breather episode.. Every episode went so fast by.. If they just showed us how they coped with this big news.. How they tried to support each other...It could have been beautiful scene.. What was the need to fast forward the things.. actually the side plot of ar not preggers and being preggers again could have been removed and given that to Abhira consoling each other. But HC could also have tried to look less depressed in the scenes with PR. Ak tried to smile in front of Ab and others... She also tried to see hope.. Yes, some people easily loose hope and not find in themselves to see hoope again.. Ab could be one of those kind of people.. but did he have to look as if Ak is torturing herself with hope.. She should also look forward to less happy life..

And the abortion track.. god!!! Does Abhira ever communicate like a couple? She says she is pregnant.. and he decides to abort without even discussing it with her.. She repeatedly pleads him to take some time and think.. she asks for discussions.. but nope he just decides..

And I want to blame both HC and the creators for the way I felt.. I felt Ak understood Ab's pain more than Ab understood her pain.. And then he later decides not to go through abortion as he hears babies heart beats.. He was ready to take a risk now.. he was willing to make all the arrangements now.. why couldn't he think of that before.. Does he even think before taking drastic decisions.. It really felt that Ab was the one who decides in that relationship. it was not equal.. It looked like ab thought Ak was not able to take any decisions.. so he should do it for her. I blame creators for rushing this whole thing and HC for not exactly acting that convincingly.. Maybe only I felt it..

And then also, The way he does many sweet things.. yes, they are sweet but also it felt like privilege flexing. He can take a paternity leave of 6 months.. because it is actually his 'baap ka hospital' He could arrange a whole studio for Ak because he was rich. I am not ak who would love this amount of concern also.. so yeah.. I would feel suffocated with this much attention and over pampering.. But maybe Ak loved it.. and many people may love it.

Just also adding another things.. all these things like paternity leave and studio in room setting could have been discussed with Ak also right? Why does it always have to be surprise. couldn't he discuss his plans with her.. wouldn't that have been sweet if he said, "we have decided that I take few months leave so we can work together through this" Why is it always his decision?

Then then I skipped the camp arc.. Only know that Ak stupidly went to jungle and Ab asked a promise to more careful. Then Arohi's secret out..only to get pregnant for real.. seriously what was the point of this arc?

Neil's death... Now that I saw the episode twice today.... I can say that Neil was responsible for his death. Whenever I hear about Neil's death, I hear Ak emo blackmailing him... Ak was too reckless.. ak was too stupid...

But now I can properly say he was the most stupid person. He went to the kidnappers (Who, by the way, were kidnapping girls so publicly..) He did not even think twice about confronting 4 goons. He almost died when one of them was going to stab him, Ak drove the car on them to save him.

Ak must have been emotional .. but he could also have thought about his plan.. but nope he just went and died.

I still don't see how Ak was responsible.. She always tried to save others.. even when she realized, she couldn't be mother.. even when she was under lot of emotional trauma.. she save a random baby from death. And she puts her in harms way while doing that..

Here, she did not think properly.. but neither did Neil.. What was he doing with his brain? She did not emotionally blackmail him to go and fight 4 goons by yourself... When I saw the episode first time today.. The way he came out of the car.. I thought he had some plan, But yaar... what he did was so utterly stupid.. I think Even Ak was also surprised by his stupidity. I think she was also expecting some sort of plan from him.

Both Ak and Neil were stupid and reckless.. But Neil died because of his stupidity..

Now that I have seen ak's involvement in Neil's death.. I think she grieved, felt guilty and was sorry for her side.

White day happened.

After seeing these many episodes... at least I can feel that there were signs.. Again... I feel he was not 'butchered' . He was always extreme in everything. Be it love, care or anger. And he takes impulsive decisions which affect both of them all by himself.

So other few things:

I feel PR became much more better at angry shouting than pre leap days. The first eoisode I saw her slapping arohi and shouting at her... I did not feel it much.. maybe she was not used to shouting scenes back then?

Before someone type.. Abhi and ak both grieved together.. both shared their pains.. it was beautiful scene where they imagined a baby between them. My problem is after that we see Ak trying to overcome her sadness.. and Abhi looking demented.. It almost made me feel that Ab was more grieving than ak.. which is ok.. but also he is not thinking about ak .. how would anyone feel good if your partner is much sad.. I don't know.. it feels badly acted or poorly directed.. But I did not feel the best husband feels which everyone felt

The whole Ar pregnant non pregnant thing was pointless and stupid.. there was no rhyme nor reason for that arc

Did something important happen in picnic arc other than ak endangering herself? I skipped those episodes

Why is AbhiM called Mumma's boy.. I did not see that in these episodes?

I was surprised that Ak also called Harsh 'sir'

I think it was @lagjagale who said Abhira relationship was like a golden cage for Ak when we had a discussion. (if it was not @lagjagale.. then sorry.. I am so bad with user names).. I also felt that... there was no proper freedom for Ak in that relationship. Abhi treated her like a precious doll made up of glass. It really feels like a beautiful thing but Ak would never have a proper agency in that relationship. All the decisions were made bu Abhi and Ak had to follow it. There was no room for discussion. They were not equal.. He was her protector and she was his refugee. The golden cage though a beautiful thing still deprives the bird to make her own life herself. The bird might enjoy the food and water the owner provides.. The owner might love the bird a lot.. he might care for the bird deeply.. But we all know that the birds would like to fly.. Sky is their place.. The cage, even though have been made with good intentions, is just entrapping the bird.

Even story wise, I feel Ak, after having the taste of freedom.. freedom to take decisions together.. freedom to discuss.. she might have liked it. Maybe that is why she called it 'umar qaid'

I like the pre manjiri's style.. maybe i am the only one.

ok That's it..

bye

P.S: Tagging few people whose usernames I kinda remember.. Don't feel pressurized to read if yo don't want to read

Originally posted by: umawanderer

Why is AbhiM called Mumma's boy.. I did not see that in these episodes?

yep! Exactly… in the episodes from their wedding to final divorce you won’t see mumma’s boy….which is why mommy dear was dead inside and burning that her laadla is only doing dola re dola around his Akshu and not doing ringa ringa roses around her.

Abhi always wanted to live his child hood with his son. Which he lost because of his dad.

From childhood he only know one thing that make birla's understand that is shouting at them as if he won't shout they will hardly understand how serious he is. This is the characteristics that he got from his childhood like how akshara has become selfless and ready to loose herself if she really love some one(arohi) or if she really indebted to some one(khera,abhinav).

Abhi is a character which is bit complex yet appreciation worthy.

Irresepctive of akshu left him or not he ensured take care of her family in her absense never punished them if he really wanted to punish akshu. This is why goenka adore abhimanyu more than akshu. This is not because arohi as arohi can leave her mayka if manju asks her to do so. Where as if we see akshara on that white day manju just blamed akshu how arohi blamed her and instead of talking to her to ease her pain she is punishing her for not coming and picking her up. Manju had also lost her grown up son that day. Akshu being a younger in age could have taken initiative to talk to her but she is seem to be punishing her as well.

Abhi never blamed akshu about Neil's death after 6 years he seems to be moved on from it accepted that it was destined. He stays humble he apologized for sirath thing but for him she somewhere still is responsible for Neil's death so neither he is apologizing her nor reminding her what she did 6 years ago. On the other hand akshu she prentends to move on and she is still cursing abhi for not picking up the phone call. Tbh if she was really happy she would be the first one to forget everything and accepted that it's a destiny and she met a good man but she is still living in the past and still blames abhi for living with abhinav.

Abhi always made it clear to arohi i may never be able to love you. And it's her choice to marry me. But on other hand akshu seen as some one who is taking advantage of abhin for her son. She is still living in past and playing with his future too. As she may accept him for one night but what about rest of the life. If she has not moved on from past 6 years i don't think she will be able to move on after 6 years. As 6 years is too long.

Abhi understands that he can not have abhir without his parents. He had accepted that fact. But akshu is making it worse by picking up a fight with manju. She is literally making it worse. As a moved on person she could have told i have already moved on. My son is too small to understand these dynamics let him grow up a bit. Post that we can disclose it to him.you and your son can visit him. But you know a son can not live without his mother. That would have fixed everything. But she just denied them visitation rights too as she wants to punish them for what happend to her 6 years ago by taking away their rights on abhir.

There are so many other points but i have to go back to my work 🙂 thanks for the tag.

But in the end abhi was not a mumma boy. They just made him post leap and pre leap in abrohi wedding 1.0.

Post that he was sane as far as i know.

Short version

Now That I read my post, I feel it was too long... It is an after-effect of binge-watching this show... So I will compress it...

1. Abhira was never a proper sane couple. They never communicate with each other. This was their second chance at marriage still.. they did not communicate.

I was under the impression that Abhira was so beautiful coup[le because people still wanted them back together... There was a fanfic written by someone... I forget the name.. but AbhM was shown as a really sensible and mature character.. so I thought he must have changed from the tilak-1 days.. because he was not a character like that in the initial days... But nope... He was again the same. Ak is not perfect or anything... Both are equally stupid... But I felt Ak making more efforts to make their marriage more normal than AbhiM

2. Now seeing these episodes and earlier episodes of YRKKH3, I can again say that Abhi was never butchered. I now strongly stand by this.. He always takes impulsive decisions without discussing them with anyone.

Now I would really be disappointed with Ak when she flips back to Abhi(Why are so certain about this... it is so funny that it is almost painful..)

3. I feel AbhiM is more responsible for Abhira's problems than Ak. At least, Ak was ready to abort the kid, even though AbhiM was not even ready to discuss it... She loved him and understood him more there.

4. Neil's death is 100% his fault. Seriously who just goes to goons and asks what are you doing? If he was under emotional manipulation, so was Ak, the children are in this trouble because of Ak.. If Ak did not use his brain.. then Neil also did not use his brain. And Ak was guilty and she wanted to say sorry to Neil. She was mourning his loss.. listening to his voice over and over again.. when she understood that Manjiri and Arohi didn't want her to join them when they are mourning.

I don't know what else are people expecting from her

5. I still do not like AbhiM because of his extremes. Extreme love, extreme hate, extreme care, extreme fear, extreme anger.. etc.. If many people like that... It is ok... This was just a personal point.

6. Now I totally agree with umar qaid point by Ak.. I do not want to romanticize it by saying it was a golden cage for a nightingale. They were never equal in their relationship. Abhi always took decisions for them. Simple.

7. If this tragedy would not happen then, Ak would have never understood the definition of a healthy relationship. Not saying that Nav and Ak's relationship is perfect. But now she knows what to expect from healthy relationships. I would have felt sad for her just like I would have felt sad for Gopi in SNS.. she was stuck in a relationship where the husband and mother-in-law were toxic. But Gopi never knew that she was in a toxic relationship, same way Ak will also have never known that she was in a toxic realtionship. It would have been so tragic.

Aruhi pregnant not pregnant track even mujhe bhi nhi smjh aaya. Also, logic nhi h usme

I agree with everything you've said. There was no butchering done, imo. It was just natural progression.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Abhi always wanted to live his child hood with his son. Which he lost because of his dad.

From childhood he only know one thing that make birla's understand that is shouting at them as if he won't shout they will hardly understand how serious he is. This is the characteristics that he got from his childhood like how akshara has become selfless and ready to loose herself if she really love some one(arohi) or if she really indebted to some one(khera,abhinav).

Abhi is a character which is bit complex yet appreciation worthy.

Irresepctive of akshu left him or not he ensured take care of her family in her absense never punished them if he really wanted to punish akshu. This is why goenka adore abhimanyu more than akshu. This is not because arohi as arohi can leave her mayka if manju asks her to do so. Where as if we see akshara on that white day manju just blamed akshu how arohi blamed her and instead of talking to her to ease her pain she is punishing her for not coming and picking her up. Manju had also lost her grown up son that day. Akshu being a younger in age could have taken initiative to talk to her but she is seem to be punishing her as well.

Abhi never blamed akshu about Neil's death after 6 years he seems to be moved on from it accepted that it was destined. He stays humble he apologized for sirath thing but for him she somewhere still is responsible for Neil's death so neither he is apologizing her nor reminding her what she did 6 years ago. On the other hand akshu she prentends to move on and she is still cursing abhi for not picking up the phone call. Tbh if she was really happy she would be the first one to forget everything and accepted that it's a destiny and she met a good man but she is still living in the past and still blames abhi for living with abhinav.

Abhi always made it clear to arohi i may never be able to love you. And it's her choice to marry me. But on other hand akshu seen as some one who is taking advantage of abhin for her son. She is still living in past and playing with his future too. As she may accept him for one night but what about rest of the life. If she has not moved on from past 6 years i don't think she will be able to move on after 6 years. As 6 years is too long.

Abhi understands that he can not have abhir without his parents. He had accepted that fact. But akshu is making it worse by picking up a fight with manju. She is literally making it worse. As a moved on person she could have told i have already moved on. My son is too small to understand these dynamics let him grow up a bit. Post that we can disclose it to him.you and your son can visit him. But you know a son can not live without his mother. That would have fixed everything. But she just denied them visitation rights too as she wants to punish them for what happend to her 6 years ago by taking away their rights on abhir.

There are so many other points but i have to go back to my work 🙂 thanks for the tag.

But in the end abhi was not a mumma boy. They just made him post leap and pre leap in abrohi wedding 1.0.

Post that he was sane as far as i know.

You must not have watched the kasauli episodes then. The first thing that came out of his mouth was a taunt to Akshara for making Ruhi fatherless.

And what is this about Abhimanyu not punishing Goenkas? Infact, he lied to them and made them believe that he was the victim so that everybody would side with him. If anything, they are the ones that are in the position of forgiving Abhimanyu for treating their daughter so poorly.

And of course, Abhimanyu takes care of everyone in his family. But Akshara was an exception, because he never considered her his true family.

I don't know why, today i don't wanna write anything in this forum but yes i agree with your all points. ❤

Originally posted by: chaipaani

Aruhi pregnant not pregnant track even mujhe bhi nhi smjh aaya. Also, logic nhi h usme

Right? That whole arc was so pointless.. I still what it was..But I have a theory...Maybe they were going for a totally different story with Arohi and Abhira kids...But they had a problem, Abhira was not working.

Abhira scenes did not feel like they were written with heart.. Maybe that was too far.. but I did not feel any divine love from them which they were supposed to be. Maybe the writer just didn't know how to write a healing story.

I think it was @firewings_diya who said that it could have been a beautiful story where two tortured people come together and help each other be better. personally, I like people healing themselves more than being saved stories.. But yes, if like Diya said, it could have been one.

But maybe the writer just didn't know how to do that. execute that..

The healing would have happened if the person allows the other to heal them. Here, Ak accepts AbhiM help, but AbhiM never asked or accepted help.

The problem there was the existing imbalance in their relationship. AbhiM was always higher than Ak. Which made it difficult for Ak to help him heal.

They had to remove the imbalance. Ak blinded by love would not have felt this power difference... She needed to get out of the 'golden cage' and see the world.. understand healthy relationships..And then return as AbhiM's equal.. and make him treat her like an equal.

So I feel they decided to change the track in the middle.. And make both the characters grow and then come back together. But again,, After the leap, They concentrated on a nice healthy relationship between Nav and Ak that now, They don't know how to bring back Abhira and make the realtionship healthy one.

Originally posted by: umawanderer

And then also, The way he does many sweet things.. yes, they are sweet but also it felt like privilege flexing. He can take a paternity leave of 6 months.. because it is actually his 'baap ka hospital' He could arrange a whole studio for Ak because he was rich. I am not ak who would love this amount of concern also.. so yeah.. I would feel suffocated with this much attention and over pampering.. But maybe Ak loved it.. and many people may love it.

@bold : i didn't like pregnancy track, too much pampering and extra extra extra care. Abhimanyu's gesture towards Akshu was annoying.