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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey Nivi - Thank you for the post and analysis... 😳
I am back to the forum after one whole week, it was a really hectic time in office. I truly missed the forum and the show so much... Watched all the episodes from last week during the weekend.

About yesterday's episode, I cannot ignore a few technicalities, so let me set them aside first -
- Why does Sameer have short hair in the flashbacks? 😒
- Wasn't Rohan out for 3 days for quiz competition? Then how come he was sleeping in the room! 😲
- What exactly happened to Somani? He is surprised with Sameer's behavior - accepted... but he managed to shock me with his own behavior - he gave permission to Sameer to use Rohan's bike..!! and even promised to buy him a new bike of his own..!! 😕
- When Sameer and Naina are playing or whatever, where are all the other kids? They are the only two souls in PVKM - conveniently left alone for their romance?

Phew! Now about the proper things...

The flashback was adorable and beautifully executed... Sameer bringing the bunch of balloons to make her happy... that twirl when Naina mischievously ties their shoelaces... and the soapy bubbles... haaye...! I can watch that repeatedly...

For Sameer, every moment he has spent with Naina and MunDit is his strength... But now he is being pulled between his promise to Naina and his need for attention & company... Poor soul, he is craving the bond and friendship so much that he is struggling to find acceptance for himself. Those Delhi boys, are bad company, but they are admiring him and accepting him - so he is getting pulled towards them.

I remember chachaji once said about Naina - "Bin maa ki bachchi hai... jahan pyaar dikhta hai usi taraf behti chali jaati hai." I would say the same statement applies for Sameer, he craves for attention and acceptance, which he is not getting in enough quantity at his home in Delhi, but those boys are giving it, so he is thinking what's the harm in spending some time.

Does that mean he will forget MunDit and Naina? NO... He might wander from the correct path for a bit, but he will be back on track because no matter what, his heart is always with Naina... Sooner or later he will realize what he is doing...

Naina dreamt Sameer calling for her help... She is already feeling that something bad is happening... I hope this time she is the one who brings him back on track, talks to him, reminds him that his focus needs to be the promise he has given to Nanu... I am really craving to see Naina being his strength now...!


Edited by moumita04 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22
nice post Nivi... dint feel like writing anything due to all the loopholes.
I would just like to ask the CVs that if they were not able to manage the shoot in sync with sameer's hair length then why did the hair cutting was so highlighted right from Actor, PH, CVs who released so much about it in the first place? it gets more noticed since they themselves made it too big.

half scenes have long hair half short hair... any scene with present hair length shown in PVKM uniform can never be justified... also the scene in the room is just copy/pasted from past episode. as far as i remember copying ur own work also counts as plagiarism wen u submit ur assignment on separate topics. the tool used to check plagiarism will show that. and a national TV show cant shoot the same thing with current hair length without Rohan in the background who was not supposed to be there thanks to their own dialogue writers who made sure Somani mentions he is away for 3 days?😕


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rose1000


Hi Nivi. thank you for the post. Your write up is much better than the episode. Aaj kal I don't feel the urge to watch the episodes as badly as I did a few weeks back.
One thing is very clear. The writers have messed up big time with the timeline. May be SHashi Mittal was busy with other projects and there is noone in the writing team who went to school/college in the early 90s. And now they must have trolled the forum. Thanks to Minu and Zulu's daily blooper thread, Nivi our rantings on your thread and also Laizu's thread, the writers are trying to rectify some of it. I appreciate their efforts. But they need to realise that this is a drama set in an era gone by. They need to be careful with some of the basic stuff.

For example, why is Sameer still at home when Deepika and Rohan are at school? Surely that school is open. And as per Somanis and Sam himself, his admission is done. So why is he at home?

If small characters like Keshav and Kamya and even bet boys can have lines, why can't Rohan will lines?
Vishakha had mentioned Rohan is light sleeper. Then why is Rohan not listening when Sam is talking to Amrita and Naina?
Sam and Rohan are roomies and the only question Sam asks him is about using the bathroom? That too only one day?
Why are the bet boys in school? Sure, they can come to get their certificates and photoes. But what are they doing in the classroom? Once I passed from my school, when I visited my school it was never in school uniform. And no, we were not allowed to go to the classrooms without permission. PVKM mein koi rules nahin hai kya? What kind of school is it which has jsut one full time teacher and one full time librarian and all other teachers are Mr. India? Why does the librarian get more importance than teachers?
What is the point of mundit's forced fight? I really don't buy the excuse that it is because Sam has left. Why did Naina not stop the fight? Where is Swati? Why did she not stop them? In fact HImmat bhi gayab rehta hai...

What I liked about the episode😊

Sam taking responsibility of dropping Deepika...So Sam and Daadi playing emotional chess now.😆
I was perhaps the only one...and may one more person..I don't remember who...had said Somani as a person is not bad. He likes discipline. He does not resent sam because he is sautela. He resents San when Sam does somethiing wrong or Somani feels Sam has done something wrong. Somani has no idea that Daadi Somani is so cunning. It will be good if Sam uses his brain like he did today and beats daadi at her own game.
Sam suddenly gone astray is forced. They could have shown Sam becoming mawali long time back...at this juncture when sam has matured a lot, they are taking him backwards...CVs are trying to make Sam a "damsel in distress". I do appreciate the conflicted mind of Sam. But as I said, the track is misplaced as per my view.

based on spoiler pictures, I think Sam will either do something bad...or may be he will try to do the right thing and will get caught anyways...
Daadi will definitely try to use it...but I have a feeling the police might side with Sam and tell the truth. Otherwise, how can Sam be in that school? Somani woul dhave asked him to leave .


Rose, for the bold I would like to go back to one of Sameer's VO where he mentioned that everything he had become when at the Agarwal's home was going backwards at twice the speed or something to that extent.

He needs an emotional anchor coz he is still not strong and stable unlike Naina who is more mature and strong. He is being made to grow up by the acts and expectations of the people around him when he is not ready mentally and emotionally. But none understand that.

He was always shown as the prankster, bad boy type who smoked, stole alcohol from Nanu and took to Mt. Abu, always gets into fights or as Munna says trouble comes to him. So it's not sudden that he's gone astray according to me.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I couldn't stop myself from writing this. Thanks Nivi for the thread, I can peacefully rant here .
Usually I read everyone's post here and then comment but aaj thoda time locha hai, I haven't read any of the above posts so if I repeat things please bear with me😆

Please tell me what did somani mean when he said mera office aur deepika ka school opposite direction me hai. How does that justify deepika being late to school everyday? The dialogue would have suited if somani picks up deepika from school and reaches late every day. Matlab kuch bhi dialogue writers are writing.

Okay many might not agree with me, but Sameer's bigadna didn't go well with me. This is the same guy who never disrespected women. This is the same guy who was guilty to say I love you to naina when he was subconsciously realizing his mistake. This is the same guy who worked like a servant in Naina's home to win her heart. This is the same guy who got angry on seeing random boys passing lewd comments seeing photos of some random girls. And the same guy though stopped and asked his friends as to what they are doing when they were passing comments on girls, yet he went with them to the park. Does this have any explanation? Everyone says sameer is lonely, his mother is not taking care of him, he is a 17 year old kid. I understand everything but tell me what was the need of showing this 17 year old kid change so much around Nanu, Naina and Mundit. For me Sameer's character was the only character which actually showed growth. Why were we shown all that? If there were no Ahmedabad scenes earlier, if there were no scenes of Nanu guiding sameer at every step, if there were no scenes of Sameer maturing, I would have believed that sameer can fall in bad company but sorry after seeing a changed sameer in Ahmedabad, I can not take this easily.

I seriously believe this track is unnecessary. I don't know what Cvs want to achieve out of it? I read nageen man's tweet on twitter mentioning Sameer being lucky on having find love in naina. Are there no other ways to show Naina having a good influence on Sameer's life? Are there no other ways to show Naina supporting Sam through thick and thin? And hell ya why does anyone have to be more lucky. They both are damn lucky to have each other. And instead of showing all this if they could show samaina encouraging each other, naina helping Sam in studies, naina emotionally supporting Sam when he takes over Nanu's business, sameer motivating Naina, it would have been better.


And why the hell on earth we are not being shown sameer and rohan's bonding? I have been waiting so desperately for them to bond but nahi dikhaenge.




PVKM flashback scenes👏 Woah. Koi tha hi nahi school me. Samaina khulle aam romance kr rhe hain, heart shaped balloons de rhe hain, lekin school me ek banda nahi tha. Romance ke naam pe kuch bhi? At least confession scene me ye to tha ki baki SB cricket ground me the kal ke scene ka kya logic hai?


Couldn't they give us Samaina dating phase for few days instead of all this? Why these lollypop scenes? Only to placate viewers?




I don't even want to talk about Sameer's hair. These people are always shooting well ahead in time, still they can't edit an episode properly? Rohan is out of Delhi for some competition still he is sleeping besides sameer. Sameer has got a haircut still they inserted previous clips in the episode where he had long hair.

And Naina wrote the letter on heart shaped paper . ye pink panna kahan se aya😲

12th ka group photo hona hai to Arjun kyu ni school aya?

What is the point in having episodes' bank when you can't write and edit properly


I have been so attached to this show, as a matter of fact we all have been. Cvs are now taking us viewers for granted now.

Sorry for not so good comments but mai kya krun I love this show. It's very close to my heart. And I am really disappointed.


Thanks again Nivi🤗
Edited by AaishaM - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Lovely analysis by you and others.. I wasnt ecstatic after watching the episode but after thinking through and reading your post and chain I can say that it was a very good episode with beautiful scenes but not perfect execution. Scenes were not flowing smoothly the way it happens in this serial. Each scene had a significance and were sowing seeds for the story to move forward.
Somani family scene - Sameer trying to stick to promise of Naina and connection with little sis was awesome. its going to lead to a beautiful realization for all the characters as to how Sameer is a gem with his own flaws.
Munna-Pandit fight - So normal. When all is well then there is no fight. But when there is a difficult situation then difference in POV surfaces up. It might look silly in the serial to others. But just glance to your own life. You would have done some immature fights with your friends. I have had during my college days. But that makes relationship stronger and firmer.
Shanti Teacher - Its not over drama to involve her. She is the only sane character from the school. She is not only going to give sense to Naina from an elderly point of view but will help too. Thats where story is leading to. We have so many people who come and go but everyone had a role to play where we are today.
Sameer - He is trying to balance Nanu & Naina's teachings. However, he needs physical presence to tie to those teachings. Thats where he is slipping away. And I am sure he will come back with a bang and thats where other pillars will come and spice up the story.
Naina - She is still trying to get back to her normal life without physical presence of Sameer. Only good thing with her is that she has many people to support her and will make her stronger in future.
Sameer's dream/flashback - Cute & Adorable. But it had so many hints of how interwoven their life is. How I wish I get a soulmate like this!!
Naina's nightmare - Most beautiful scene.. When your near one is in trouble then you do get hint of it. Thats a connection souls. Hence this jodi is so super awesome!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: appukrish

Nivi, thank you !

Some things that are not changing at all :

Swath-Munna - he addressing her as Pandit and her 1 liner "shakal dekhi hai apni

Shefjun: their story stopped with few ishaaras here and there.

Daadi (Kitu) acting and dialogue delivery

Rohan: always hugging Mom, sleeping very well in the room while Sameer is on the phone with Naina, tossing and turning restlessly in bed (and he is light sleeper!), mutely watching/observing everyone.

Ok episode today.
Very smartly Sameer beat Daadi to her game with an unexpected bonus from Somani who seemed impressed with Sameer. Cute scene of Deepika and Sameer. Vishakha bhi Khush !
But Sameer's indirect taunt that he is so responsible now and he can drop Deepika everyday to school etc will soon go into reverse gear I feel.
He is slowly getting sucked into the activities of his new found friends. Liked how his conscience is pricking him, yet his mind is getting swayed the other way. It takes 1 head turn to deviate from your goal and again it only takes 1 head turn the other way to come back to realization. Waiting to see what that 1jhatka will be for Sameer's turning point.

Yes agree, Naina's nightmare about Sameer in a dark place screaming of help is more about his inner emptyness and everything else that is bottled up within. Will Naina understand that or will Sameer share that with her?

Shanthi ma'am ka lecture tomorrow and later she will be helpful in Naina going to Delhi maybe ? At least I hope that's why teacher finding out now is happening. Warna as you said Naina has grown out of the extreme mooning phase.

Bet boys being in school made no sense. As such M and P were already at loggerheads and and are getting physical. And in Delhi their budddy is also getting physical. I guess whey want to show how teenagers get carried away in their josh' if they have no support. M and P will forgive and forget with Naina's intervention but Sameer ?


Whatever said and done Sameer has a good conscience and they did keep that intact even here.

Oh.. you are right Aparna. Maybe thats why Shanthi mam gets to know, she might help Naina in going to Delhi. Very good point.👍🏼
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: dixie123


Hi Simi..

the card fight between MunDit.. there could have been better ways to show them deal with separation from Sameer. When Naina was crying remembering Sameer they tried to cheer her up.. I hope this fight which has escalated she is able to solve or atleast make an effort in solving. Is that why this fight is shown ?




bet boys interfering in their fight is what is bothering me nivi... They are surely upto something... Munna not writing his name on the card can be taken advantage of by them... I too want naina to help them resolve their fight as they have helped her a lot going out of their way.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: canapoem

Nivi, your post is much more beautiful than the episode.

The episode felt like some random puzzle pieces being forcibly joined.

Firstly I liked how Sameer volunteered to drop Deepika. He genuinely tried to be responsible. Vishaka was happy and Bobby too looked happy and he even promised him a new bike. Kitu was speechless 😆
Deepika tickling Sameer was so cute.

And that brought the end of logic in the episode for me.

From there every scene looked forced and artificial.

If Deepika has already started her academic year, why is Sameer sitting at home? 12th graders usually start off early and have special classes etc.

I can still agree about how Sameer got sucked into the company of the bad guys.
But later nothing made sense.

Bobby said that Rohan had gone somewhere for some competition and he was right there sleeping in the night.
That Rohit guy has like the most stupid role in the serial, either hugging Vishaka or sleeping at night.
No dialogue, no opinion, no bonding, nothing.

Why are the bet boys at school? Shouldn't they be in college now? Who comes back wearing their old uniforms to take some photos. That is the most ridiculous reason I have ever heard.
And why are they still being assholes?

This is the main reason why I was so upset when Nanu was killed off suddenly and Sameer was shipped off to Delhi in the blink of an eye.
I wanted Naina to give an earful to the bet boys before they left PVKM.

Munna and Pandit's fight and the reasons for it is really beyond my understanding.

Shanti teacher finding the love letter also may turn out to be another blooper.
Also Naina wrote in some heart shaped paper right. This was some pink rectangular paper.

So many bloopers and loop holes.






Thanks so much Kavi.😳

I don't get the problem of these bet boys ? What badla are they talking about ? Although Sameer won the bet, they made sure Naina would know about it, they found leave any chance taunting and making fun of Sameer. What badla ? Looks very forced for me also.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: dilse99

Hi Nivi,

Episode definitely had some issues today. Some weird shots, editing and dubbing was off too.

I liked the opening scene with Naina and MunDit. And Sameer and Deepika together are too cute. 😛

Another scene that was well done was the library scene. The parents of the boy who got caught with the letter were funny. 😆. And Naina's VO regarding Sridevi was a nice little tribute. 👏

I agree with you regarding Naina's dream - I found it convincing - her concern for Sameer, along with his VO regarding his state of mind was well put together.

The scene that kind of ruined the episode for me was the one with the bet boys. I found their contribution in MunDit's fight to be completely random and unnecessary. 😕 It was a waste of screen time IMO.

I am hoping that this phase of SaMunDit, where all three of them seem to be lost without one another, is resolved in this week itself. I won't be able to take weeks of this mawaali gang and their antics. After that, I hope their is better progress in the Delhi track.


Hi Neha

SS shouting in the library was funny for me, Naina looking at her hands imagining the handcuffs on her.😆

I doubt if the fights will be resolved so soon especially Sameer in bad company
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rose1000


Hi Nivi. thank you for the post. Your write up is much better than the episode. Aaj kal I don't feel the urge to watch the episodes as badly as I did a few weeks back.
One thing is very clear. The writers have messed up big time with the timeline. May be SHashi Mittal was busy with other projects and there is noone in the writing team who went to school/college in the early 90s. And now they must have trolled the forum. Thanks to Minu and Zulu's daily blooper thread, Nivi our rantings on your thread and also Laizu's thread, the writers are trying to rectify some of it. I appreciate their efforts. But they need to realise that this is a drama set in an era gone by. They need to be careful with some of the basic stuff.

For example, why is Sameer still at home when Deepika and Rohan are at school? Surely that school is open. And as per Somanis and Sam himself, his admission is done. So why is he at home?

If small characters like Keshav and Kamya and even bet boys can have lines, why can't Rohan will lines?
Vishakha had mentioned Rohan is light sleeper. Then why is Rohan not listening when Sam is talking to Amrita and Naina?
Sam and Rohan are roomies and the only question Sam asks him is about using the bathroom? That too only one day?
Why are the bet boys in school? Sure, they can come to get their certificates and photoes. But what are they doing in the classroom? Once I passed from my school, when I visited my school it was never in school uniform. And no, we were not allowed to go to the classrooms without permission. PVKM mein koi rules nahin hai kya? What kind of school is it which has jsut one full time teacher and one full time librarian and all other teachers are Mr. India? Why does the librarian get more importance than teachers?
What is the point of mundit's forced fight? I really don't buy the excuse that it is because Sam has left. Why did Naina not stop the fight? Where is Swati? Why did she not stop them? In fact HImmat bhi gayab rehta hai...

What I liked about the episode😊

Sam taking responsibility of dropping Deepika...So Sam and Daadi playing emotional chess now.😆
I was perhaps the only one...and may one more person..I don't remember who...had said Somani as a person is not bad. He likes discipline. He does not resent sam because he is sautela. He resents San when Sam does somethiing wrong or Somani feels Sam has done something wrong. Somani has no idea that Daadi Somani is so cunning. It will be good if Sam uses his brain like he did today and beats daadi at her own game.
Sam suddenly gone astray is forced. They could have shown Sam becoming mawali long time back...at this juncture when sam has matured a lot, they are taking him backwards...CVs are trying to make Sam a "damsel in distress". I do appreciate the conflicted mind of Sam. But as I said, the track is misplaced as per my view.

based on spoiler pictures, I think Sam will either do something bad...or may be he will try to do the right thing and will get caught anyways...
Daadi will definitely try to use it...but I have a feeling the police might side with Sam and tell the truth. Otherwise, how can Sam be in that school? Somani woul dhave asked him to leave .




Hi Rose, Thank you !

Sameer did say mein admission le raha hoon usi school mein. Does it mean the admission is not yet done and hence Sameer is home while the other two kids are attending school.

Rohan and K3G sapna you gave us is never going to happen yaar. Rohan and Sameer bonding could have been so great to watch. Will they bond only because of Preeti in the future ? Both seem to like each other and not mind each other's presence. Why not talk then ? Rohan is so busy he doesn't have time🥱

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