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Posted: 7 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: The_fairy_girly

Why every one is interested in stealing paper issue?

And those who are eager to get this track I am damn sure they will not show anything that track was ended there itself..
Raddi mein feko question paper for!! If they wanted to solve this track they could have done before..why to break sis- bro relationship..more than anything the relationship will get worst not better...

Hi
Paper stealing is the crux of this love story.
If it wasn't there then there was no bet no falling in love of Sameer.
As for bro sis relationship is concerned they are perfectly fine with each other.
It's only Sameer's relationship with his mother got badly affected.
This issue has to come out then only Naina and Sameer will be able to understand each other better and they will be on equal footing in their relationship.
If they want to proceed their relationship they have to address this issue .
Because in relationship there is no I it's always we.
Hey it's just my POV.
Please don't feel bad.

Edited by truptishree - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#32
The episode was so funny..I died laughing🤣
Sameer's happy dance seeing Rakesh sir tensed..that was as if Randeep prakat ho gya ho for a while😆

Rakesh was telling Preeti to talk slowly n Preeti was getting louder everytime..such a badass she is😎
MunDit kr kya rhe the..tamatar n haldi leke khade maze ke rhe the😆

Chachaji has crushed all my expectations from him..she should've atleast apologised to Chachi..rather than thinking that she's again done something..he knows how Rakesh is right!!
Edited by Anjali33 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#33
Sameer was love yesterday..what masti filled episode..Randeep must have had total fun while playing this part...his smile, laughter, cheer...touched my heart..Even chachi's tears..she is such a innocent lovely character..felt bad to be pushed around..
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Posted: 7 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: souhasini

I don't understand why noone could understand chachaji s pov.maybe most of foru m members are young n havent lived inia joint family. Anand told Bela to get sorry from Rakesh first because he wanted to resolve d bitterness BTN Bela n rakesh n he knows dat Bela is not sorry for rakesh but she is sad dat she broke her husband s trust. Anand n d whole world knows dat changing Rakesh or making him understand is a herculean task.so noone is bothered abt Rakesh kadwa Mooh. It is not because Bela is female ,Anand was strict with her in dis issue. It is because he knew only his wife could solve dis issue. Rakesh won't. If he had been a little kind ,he wudhave hv never stopped Bela from entering hospital. Anyone cud feel Belas love for Naina n Arjun. 😭. Madhusree acted dat scene so well .eventho Anand masked his face with anger man hi man mein he was also expecting Rakesh to forgive. I feel we shd get voiceover of all d characters in some crucial moments so dat we cud understand dem. Else like in d real life we can't realise others feelings n dilemma n misunderstanding s crop up.

In yesterday's scene also Anand was not scolding or targeting Bela.he was really afraid dat before d old PBM got resolved something new PBM arised or wat. Dat is not because he doesn't trust Bela but understand s her better. She is clean in her heart n jo main mein athi u hu bol deti hu .she can't hide her feelings .
D parallel BTN chacha_chachi n naina_sameer, Shwas in Vishwas is d only thing comparable. Both situations are diff. Chachiji blurts out in a spur of a moment. But Sameer chal chali di. Eventho by d end he was nt into d bet. Seeing d old episode s we can see dat he was confused but didnt stopped his bet thing even after d nanaji incident.in was after der night talk n sunrise he was totally into her .
Shwas in Vishwas don't come back in a sec. Chachaji forgiven chachiji but he wud be conscious abt saying confidential things to her so dat no pbms crop up.


UNres from page 4

Interesting that you read the perspective as an issue of a joint family.. I admit the pressures of relationship in a joint family are different from those of a nuclear family..yet in a joint family also there is some aspect that is private between husband and wife. In this issue, I did not see anything evenly remotely private being shared on the issue except a public climbing down of a position ( a concession almost, where Anand agrees that while Bela would not have to leave the house, she will have to obtain the forgiveness of Rakesh...You are saying that the issue is more about Bela breaking Anand's trust but the public position made it about Rakesh and frankly I did not see Bela trying to solve the issue in any way except to be her natural good self...working tirelessly for her family. If that wasn't sufficient for her husband to accept that she had an error of judgement frankly I don't know what could have changed his mind. If for a moment we accept that all that Anand was keen that she solve the issue which she did from Anand's perspective ( as he has no knowledge of what transpired between the two) doesn't that also make Anand a bit of a hypocrite on the issue? If he knows that Rakesh is beyond redemption what is the use of testing Bela on that score? We need to be clear...was this about Anand's trust being broken, if so...the issue is not extraneous...it is intrinsic... By extension...nothing that Sameer does for the family will solve the tangle between Naina and Sameer because the issue is between them alone not extraneous. I know I used a tangential thought here to compare.

Let me just rephrase what the issue of some viewers on the Chacha chachi tangle is...what was the purpose of the track? I am not here focussing on Chacha and Chachi as characters but simply as what they served to highlight in the tale?

Was it to highlight to Naina that despite the greatest of misunderstandings, there is still hope? If so, this must be dramatic point for Naina...but as spoilers show...this is not the climax. This is not a Eureka moment for her so clearly the Cvs juxtaposed this track merely to show Sameer's efforts for reconciliation ( one of the bricks in the process

For me Sameer's efforts while making an indent in Naina's mind will not necessarily cause Naina to accept his efforts rather a culmination of efforts and situations will cause a meltdown very similar to how Sameer accepted his love for Naina. If we go back...Sameer was seeing so many overtures from Naina during the bet phase and he was clearly accepting of the fact that he was doing something wrong yet he continued on the path as the trigger to act differently hadn't arrived. Now, Naina is in a similar if not the same phase. Naina is seeing overtures from Sameer...she is seeing that Sameer is making a lot of efforts to resolve things but something is preventing her from breaking that barrier that she has put up and only something drastic will cause that to happen...similar to Sameer's breakdown and realisation. There are not like for like comparisons but merely ways in which people resolve serious differences or issues.

Coming back to the track and my issues...there are more related to how they butchered a character of Anand merely to make Sameer have a go at realisation. Anand may have been resurrected for some but I will always wonder why Anand exhibited a strain of "benevolent sexism for placating a male ego like Rakesh if he indeed knew that Bela was above board.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

A not so detailed analysis for a deatiled episode😉 Thank you for the analysis.😃😃

But the analysis of Chachaji's character takes the cake 👏👏
Coming to the episode--
For a change;every one gave Rakesh High BP while he is the one giving everyone else in other episodes.Well done Jija-Saali ,Munna and Pandit.👏👏
Sameer was so excited and happy 😆 Sasurji ko tension dena to abhi shuru hua hai ki jamai sahab ki khushi to dekho,Rakesh kabhi hospital mein hoga to yeh ladka to bhangra aur Kuchupudi kar lega.

Naina bechari ulajh gayi hai in ''Rahasya Dibba ka''.No doubt she read so much to become a writer.That mention of 'Diamond Pocket Books' was so nostalgic.Made me suddenly realize --oh!apna 90s ka show hai.

The subjugation of women was portrayed subtly through Anand's character..Yes missed that ''Vishwas thing.'

And that anshoo dialogue of Sameer--How does he manages to be so vocal...that to opnely.This guy surely gives a damn to world.😆

On a last note---Chachiji doesn't know her 'Heera' is the ''Saandh'' 😉 and that our show should be renamed as YUDKBH -Jab Shart rishte banate the''.🥱

@bold: Kuch zyada hi likh di maine 😆 Minu

@blue: So true Shart ke bina the characters don't want to progress.

Patch up ke baad, Sameer will not need Naina's help in making Sasurji bewakoof 😆 He has understood him pretty well.


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Posted: 7 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: URnotThisBody

I was actually totally disappointed today. Except the dilbar song.

What are trying to show with the chacha ji chachi maafi??? I thought the whole thing was about vishwas. Wasn't it. And I was ok with that parallel back then. Naina is 16 and Chacha has a huge influence on her- understandable. I was even ok with chacha behaving like an ass with his wife.But where is the whole vishwas in all this. Will he trust Bela the next time? What is Naina empathizing with now? Is she just happy that Chachi n chacha have sorted things out? Will she start trusting sameer again?
Somehow everything felt incomplete. Chacha could have mouthed some line about vishwas etc. Or is the vishwas thing still not dealt with??
Chacha 's words about that smile etc felt so artificial coz we never saw him think about being really harsh on Bela and that she has been putting up with this mad khandan as well.
I usually dontd crib much but today I was totally disappointed that they didn't close the loop well. Seemed half hearted. Hope the CVs prove me wrong.



I agree Vibha, the parallel got lost in trying to get Sameer solve the issue. Atleast Chacha should have felt bad the way he was treating Bela in one of the earlier scenes. I hated his, I don't like tears, dialogue.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: sanfan

Lovely post Nivi

I have been critical about the way the CVs set up this track becos they were largely doing this to ease in or highlight Sameer's role in resolving the Chacha Chachi tangle. In doing so, I was apprehensive they would butcher the one progressive character of the times Chacha and they did that...I guess it jarred heavily... I said I will reserve final comments in a diff thread

After watching yday episode...let me just say this... while the positioning of the track was a iffy.. the writers salvaged a bit of the damage with some innovative writing in how they wrote yday's screenplay or shots...

They kept the whole action light and believable and very much something 17 year olds would do...rather than make it too heavy on the rhetoric. The icing on the cake was Sameer taking pleasure out of the experience 😆 😆

It proved the writers still have a sense of what they are aiming to achieve!!


Most of the forum is on the same page I guess that they butchered Chacha in making Sameer solve the issue. Didn't have much impact. I think they screwed it up like the sweater scene.

Sameer ki happiness and Rakesh ki tadap was the best part of the episode 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#38
Saw the episode and it was one fun filled episode...
Just to watch Sameer laugh and dance I have seen that scene so many times on repeat mode😆

I felt so contented to see Safari suit in this situation and SMP enjoying to the tilt...😆

And best actress award goes to Preeti...the nautanki..

The Jeeja saali Jodi truly rock...

The confused Naina was also nice to watch...

But chachi and Sam scenes were love😃😳

Heera of chachiji...

For the first time I felt chacha ji was out of character..
But I guess he was bound by brother's pride...

Unn dino u really had to do something against your wishes...

But the direct romance shown was something not gelling with the scene.

All in all a good episode.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Kavila

Wow wonderful anaylises nivi as usual ..

Omg tayab Ali ki band Bach te dekh pure tan man ko shanti mil gayi Bhai ..uff

Chun chun badla nikala sameer gamg ne isey🤣

By God tayab Ali kya mast mast exp de rahe the. ..🤣chandresh sir👏
Oh god the balcony nd the table scene 🤣had me into split .. Omg tayab al was Ek taraf kua o bai husband nd dusri taraf khai balon ki dukaan omggg uper se Devil gang hasss hass ke jabra dukh gaya Bhai.

Well chachaji I am also very much disappointed but all ends that end well chachiji nd chacha is one of the most lovely pair yaar ❤️kalaaa teekas.

Sameer ka victory dance uff kya bolun me Yeh ladka hera hai hera ..as right ly understood by chachiji❤️

Lekin kisi andhey insan ko samajh me to naaa 🤢soery I can't take this girl anymore .. I just want a situation where things will reverse nd naina will have to do tapasya just like sameer is doing ..to get naina ..
Sameer has done a crime but naina no less is dudh ki dhuli hui..😡

Preeti yaar ❤️kya bolun mai jijaji ki ladli...

Bang on ep!!

But I seriously think now sameer should leave naina for some days warna jotna bhi woh kare Yeh ladki ke natak khatam nahi hongey😡


hi Kavila

The actor who plays Rakesh is awesome, The way Rakesh kept telling Preeti 'chup kar na Preeti chup kar' was hilarious 😆 The way Rakesh was scared seeing Tauji also just like small kids afraid when they have dome a mistake 😆

I agree Naina needs to miss Sameer now, he needs to stop being around her all the time.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: sanfan


UNres from page 4

Interesting that you read the perspective as an issue of a joint family.. I admit the pressures of relationship in a joint family are different from those of a nuclear family..yet in a joint family also there is some aspect that is private between husband and wife. In this issue, I did not see anything evenly remotely private being shared on the issue except a public climbing down of a position ( a concession almost, where Anand agrees that while Bela would not have to leave the house, she will have to obtain the forgiveness of Rakesh...You are saying that the issue is more about Bela breaking Anand's trust but the public position made it about Rakesh and frankly I did not see Bela trying to solve the issue in any way except to be her natural good self...working tirelessly for her family. If that wasn't sufficient for her husband to accept that she had an error of judgement frankly I don't know what could have changed his mind. If for a moment we accept that all that Anand was keen that she solve the issue which she did from Anand's perspective ( as he has no knowledge of what transpired between the two) doesn't that also make Anand a bit of a hypocrite on the issue? If he knows that Rakesh is beyond redemption what is the use of testing Bela on that score? We need to be clear...was this about Anand's trust being broken, if so...the issue is not extraneous...it is intrinsic... By extension...nothing that Sameer does for the family will solve the tangle between Naina and Sameer because the issue is between them alone not extraneous. I know I used a tangential thought here to compare.

Let me just rephrase what the issue of some viewers on the Chacha chachi tangle is...what was the purpose of the track? I am not here focussing on Chacha and Chachi as characters but simply as what they served to highlight in the tale?

Was it to highlight to Naina that despite the greatest of misunderstandings, there is still hope? If so, this must be dramatic point for Naina...but as spoilers show...this is not the climax. This is not a Eureka moment for her so clearly the Cvs juxtaposed this track merely to show Sameer's efforts for reconciliation ( one of the bricks in the process

For me Sameer's efforts while making an indent in Naina's mind will not necessarily cause Naina to accept his efforts rather a culmination of efforts and situations will cause a meltdown very similar to how Sameer accepted his love for Naina. If we go back...Sameer was seeing so many overtures from Naina during the bet phase and he was clearly accepting of the fact that he was doing something wrong yet he continued on the path as the trigger to act differently hadn't arrived. Now, Naina is in a similar if not the same phase. Naina is seeing overtures from Sameer...she is seeing that Sameer is making a lot of efforts to resolve things but something is preventing her from breaking that barrier that she has put up and only something drastic will cause that to happen...similar to Sameer's breakdown and realisation. There are not like for like comparisons but merely ways in which people resolve serious differences or issues.

Coming back to the track and my issues...there are more related to how they butchered a character of Anand merely to make Sameer have a go at realisation. Anand may have been resurrected for some but I will always wonder why Anand exhibited a strain of "benevolent sexism for placating a male ego like Rakesh if he indeed knew that Bela was above board.


@bold: Very well put Rekha ! 👍🏼 I feel so much better about Naina's anger and taunts now.

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