Raman Bhalla: Janoon, paagalpan. (where he throws her off the cliff)

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(So i promised i'd be back, as i get some time to catch up, and considering the current track is shaping up to be killer, I'm staying awake past 1am to try and catch up, after university masters applications and babysitting my dad, he's wonderful, but wonderfully messy too! i think I'm going to try and really marathon myself through now, because I'm seriously wanting to bask in the perhaps temporary, but lovely return of golden yhm.)


so here is post:


I don't understand, says Ishita.


Even ishita underestimates Raman's crazy.


When Raman goes to meet Ishita after its announced she will be hanged, looking in retrospect, you can see him formulating. Here, ishita has resigned to her fate, and contrastingly, you can almost read the crazy going on in Raman's head. He's heartbroken, grief stricken, desperate. The makings of Raman Bhalla with a death wish.


And a death wish is exactly what he has. He does something that risks his own freedom. he risks everything, everyone. For her.


He forsakes every relationship, everyone, for her.


And everything he says before he does his I'm evil' acting is true.


He can't live without her he says. If you die, I die.


What about our love?


I love the last question he asks. its so valid. Ishita is overwhelmed by Raman's wish to leave everything and go, she raises the question, what about our kids?


And Raman's return, what about us?


Personally, i love this bit. because its this that got me thinking. Here lies their very foundation of love, and yet also their, mostly his greatest insecurity. And whilst its his biggest insecurity, its also the very reason he falls so madly in love with her. This is what drives these two to be who they are. Yes she love him. Yes he loves her. But once again, the children above all, for her.


But for him, Her, above everything, everyone.


He knows Ishita, he knows she would never just run away, and so the facade of throwing her off is played out. But i love that he makes her try to contemplate it. It represents them. He wants her, safe and sound. She can't take him away from those that need him the most.


This at least runs to the very core of their story i think. Raman at the start of their story has enormous responsibilities. A family, 2 kids and being the eldest sibling. Enters Ishita. She halves his burdens, takes on the mantle of the daughter in law, becomes the mother to motherless child. Then takes on another, accepting him too, to be a part of her heart. My point is she falls in love with Raman seeing the truly broken man, with a trampled heart, made of gold, and does everything she can to relieve him of pain, to share the burdens he carries. And she does exactly that as she seeks to die. she doesn't want to leave with him, because of the kids,. The children he dotes on, the family he cherishes. How can she rip him away from that, just because of her.


In contrast, Raman, as he falls in love with the mother of his child, does so helplessly. and suddenly i think his whole world begins, and ends with ishita. we can see how this translates after the leap, the shell of a man he becomes,and the sheer anger at not being wth her so long; and we can see why he touches extremes to prevent her being ripped away from him at this point. Here is the truth, i think he loves her more than anyone, anything. So his thinking demonstrates one thing. Ishita. Ishita, and only ishita, when he's trying to convince her to go.


But he knows her better than anyone else, he knows she won't go for it.


But this cliff scene was sheer brilliance in my opinion for what it symbolises. it somehow encapsulated the very nature of raman and ishita's relationship. And it demonstrates a man, crazy in love with his wife.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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brilliantly written zoya👏👏

that scenes brillaiantly done by kp n dt

they jst nailed it...

raman's junion craziness for ishits beyond the linit..

both loves each other to death...

bt im baised towards raman...he loves her to mch that ws beyond anyone's imagination...

when ishita hanged news comes...he ws heartbroken...he cant see anything he only wants ishita to be with her anyhow..chahe kch bhi krna padhe ...chahe sabh ke samne villan kyn na bana padhe..
chahe bachiyon ki nafrat bhi dekhni padhe...


and we as viewers love his craziness for ishita

ps ...dont think i said ishita doesnt love him the way raman love...coz both love each other to death
Edited by sweet.Aman - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Awesome writeup
That scene was a brilliant one...what intensity it had

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I was in a break from yhm during chadda murder track and I don't know that there was this type of conversation between ishra. I didn't know Raman also chose to die😲
Thanks for making this post.🤗.
You said that Raman wanted to die leaving his children behind,when ishita was all set to die. This clearly shows that ishita is his top priority more.
Then why did he choose to live after ishita's suicide? She committing suicide because of him is more painful for him than someone else hanging her to death. Logically he should have committed suicide as soon as he comes to know about her suicide.
I understand Raman lived because the show should continue😆 but what do you think the reason that he chose to live after her death that too he knew she committed suicide because of him?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Biriliant post zoya...
Yup it ws his junoon..ishita is his life..
And wen everyone had given up including ishita he ws not ready to let her die at any cost..
Wen he goes to meet her in police station his eyes spoke volumes ...
Finally he took a decision to save her at the cost of every relation his parentes disappointed with him his children lost tge respect for him bt he took it all only for her...
As u said ishita comes first for him he knew ishita will think abt kids first thats y he planned that way he knew she will force him to live for kids n let her die his biggest insecurity she thinks abt kids first bt he ws not ready...his dlg 'wat abt us' said it all ...that scene ws full of his junoon intensity n KP nailed it..he said agar ishita nhi hogi toh ye raman raman nhi rahega n he proved tgat post leap..
Post leap he ws suviving only for kids especially pihu not living bcs he too ws dead wen ishita committed suicide ..he ws a dead person who cudnt even smile...she breaths life in him..in current track he is proving again ishita comes before everyone !!
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Lovely post zoya.
The chaddha murder track had some gems.this scene was one of them..and then from there till the crescendo reached heights when he flung her off the cliff and then jumped off himself was metaphorical in so many ways..
There is no raman without ishuta and there can be no ishita with oit raman either. , which in its own warped way carried forward into some post leap scenes too..
And i think somewhere this declaration of ishita bring his number one priority. .his Junoon , his reason to live , to fight, to dare, to dream...is something that has not changed at all in RKB...
It was there on that day when ishita received her death sentence, it was still there in the simmering, angry RKB for 7 yrs when he really thought ishita was s dead and he told ishita in a drunken stupor that how he was a dead man and wished ishita had taken him with her too...and now it surfaced in full glory again when he is threatening shagun to stay away..since he can tolerate anything but not any harm coming to ishita...

Even though cvs might never show us this. .but if ishita were ever to again jump off a cliff in front of raman. .raman woukd without a single thought jump behind her. ..quite literally. .or better still fight fate and death itself to get het back to him ,, where she belongs. ..😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Lovely post zoya.

The chaddha murder track had some gems.this scene was one of them..and then from there till the crescendo reached heights when he flung her off the cliff and then jumped off himself was metaphorical in so many ways..
There is no raman without ishuta and there can be no ishita with oit raman either. , which in its own warped way carried forward into some post leap scenes too..
And i think somewhere this declaration of ishita bring his number one priority. .his Junoon , his reason to live , to fight, to dare, to dream...is something that has not changed at all in RKB...
It was there on that day when ishita received her death sentence, it was still there in the simmering, angry RKB for 7 yrs when he really thought ishita was s dead and he told ishita in a drunken stupor that how he was a dead man and wished ishita had taken him with her too...and now it surfaced in full glory again when he is threatening shagun to stay away..since he can tolerate anything but not any harm coming to ishita...

Even though cvs might never show us this. .but if ishita were ever to again jump off a cliff in front of raman. .raman woukd without a single thought jump behind her. ..quite literally. .or better still fight fate and death itself to get het back to him ,, where she belongs. ..😛


Ah I love what you've said here. Especially, that last line ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Fabulous post as always zoya...😃👏.this scene is one of the best scenes of yhm for me...actually many scenes in this jail track of ishita were the best😊...coz they showed the very base of Ishra's relationship is no longer ruhi or anything else but THEM...
THEIR LOVE AND MADNESS FOR EACH OTHER😳😭...ishu cud think abt only raman most of the time in jail and raman became a madman Madly and crazily in love wid his madrasan...😭😳👏
His ishita.

This scene have me goosebumps literally and made me tear up towards the end.😭💔...credits to DivAn for doing this so effortlessly and brilliantly 👏👍🏼
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Lovely post zoya.

The chaddha murder track had some gems.this scene was one of them..and then from there till the crescendo reached heights when he flung her off the cliff and then jumped off himself was metaphorical in so many ways..
There is no raman without ishuta and there can be no ishita with oit raman either. , which in its own warped way carried forward into some post leap scenes too..
And i think somewhere this declaration of ishita bring his number one priority. .his Junoon , his reason to live , to fight, to dare, to dream...is something that has not changed at all in RKB...
It was there on that day when ishita received her death sentence, it was still there in the simmering, angry RKB for 7 yrs when he really thought ishita was s dead and he told ishita in a drunken stupor that how he was a dead man and wished ishita had taken him with her too...and now it surfaced in full glory again when he is threatening shagun to stay away..since he can tolerate anything but not any harm coming to ishita...

Even though cvs might never show us this. .but if ishita were ever to again jump off a cliff in front of raman. .raman woukd without a single thought jump behind her. ..quite literally. .or better still fight fate and death itself to get het back to him ,, where she belongs. ..😛

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Originally posted by: sweet.Aman

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brilliantly written zoya👏👏

that scenes brillaiantly done by kp n dt

they jst nailed it...

raman's junion craziness for ishits beyond the linit..

both loves each other to death...

bt im baised towards raman...he loves her to mch that ws beyond anyone's imagination...

when ishita hanged news comes...he ws heartbroken...he cant see anything he only wants ishita to be with her anyhow..chahe kch bhi krna padhe ...chahe sabh ke samne villan kyn na bana padhe..
chahe bachiyon ki nafrat bhi dekhni padhe...


and we as viewers love his craziness for ishita

ps ...dont think i said ishita doesnt love him the way raman love...coz both love each other to death


I get your bias towards Raman. I think we just melt when we see him vulnerable.😳

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