Ishita is not going to lose (Edited) - Page 8

I think people know that in the end everything will be alright - Ishita n Raman will win, Shagun will lose. Adi will come back to bhallas etc. While fans have no problem with that, we will have to endure 1 month of negative torture where we will see Shagun winning in her plans n Ishita sacrificing for Adi's happiness, while Raman bearing Shagun for Adi. After 1 month of illogical tracks, they will show 1-2 days of positive outcome for the track which we have seen repeated in the past - Mani track (1month of high intense drama n 2 days of comedy ending), Shagun Shadi track (1month of drama n the ending I am still confused about )

Originally posted by: mnr123

I think people know that in the end everything will be alright - Ishita n Raman will win, Shagun will lose. Adi will come back to bhallas etc. While fans have no problem with that, we will have to endure 1 month of negative torture where we will see Shagun winning in her plans n Ishita sacrificing for Adi's happiness, while Raman bearing Shagun for Adi. After 1 month of illogical tracks, they will show 1-2 days of positive outcome for the track which we have seen repeated in the past - Mani track (1month of high intense drama n 2 days of comedy ending), Shagun Shadi track (1month of drama n the ending I am still confused about )

While I think all ADI needs is assurance and Talk from Raman that he as a DAD and friend is always there for him, that doesnt mean Raman shud obey to all orders that Adi wud have.

Here Raman n Ishita r not understanding ear-rings given to Shagun wont make Adi happy, would it? Nope obviously it will make Shagun happy for whatever tantrum she is throwing on Adi and influencing him.

Y r Ishra bearing all the nonsense Shagun is asking for, how will that make ADI come out of his "stress"? Is Adi stressed that Shagun is not having some earrings or is he more stressed about his confused identity, whom to call Dad etc?

I think Ishra r missing the point here - ie what are Adi's problems exactly. Nobody went n spoke with him as a parent what is ailing him? (which Raman should do more than Ishita coz Adi is more close to him than Ishita)

The approach the makers r showing if Ishra bear n obey all the illogical things that Shagun asks for, then Adi might get confidence of beliving that maybe Raman might give upon Ishita n accept Shagun back? How is the current track making Adi understand that Shagun is a bad mother? Unless Shagun does Bad with Adi like deserting him n going back to Ashok or blaming him for her failures might make him turn towards Raman. While Shagun is all happy, Adi will be happy - he loves Shagun no matter how bad she is.

Maybe the outcome might be otherwise where Adi realises Shagun's evilness which is good but the approach towards the outcome of storyline is skewed for sure.

You conveyed perfectly exactly my points. I made a post a couple days ago similar to this but got lots of negitivity. I'm glad this post is full of positivity and I'm sure everything you've said is true 😃

Originally posted by: clover

Raman and Ishita think that giving Adi what he wants will make him happy, and keeping Adi happy is directly or indirectly related to keeping Shagun happy. Adi has blind faith in his mother and blind faith does not always last. It did not last for Raman, nor Ishita,nor Simmi. They all had to come out of it somehow, and it was very painful. Adi will go through it too.

Raman and Ishita are doing this right now because they are both practicing faulty parenting. Ishita is worried about Adi accepting her in his life and is therefore trying too much to please him. She is treating him like a fragile glass. Raman is just full of guilt regarding Adi, for what ever reasons there are. At the end of it all, they are just trying to please him. You see how Ishita never scolds Adi or reprimands him when he does something wrong. She would do that with Ruhi. She almost always forgives Adi. Raman used to do that before, not so much now. I don't know what his approach will be post the counsellor's advice, but whatever it is I hope Raman steps up as a parent when he realises what double game Adi and Shagun are playing with Ishita. It is a well known fact that Raman has now become a very good judge of people. And Ruhi too sees things as they are rather than what people pretend to show. She and Raman are the only two people who don't believe Shagun when she cries.

If there is any way that this mess will be sorted out, it will be either because of Raman or Ruhi or both.

Also even though Ruhi loves Ishita and Raman a lot she is not scared to tell them as well as punish them when they are wrong. She is the unpartial, unbiased third party. If she wont bring about the change then she will facilitate it.

This is what called a matured post!!! 👏 the forum is filled with negativity and bashing posts..but they were not wrong also even for me it's difficult to digest whatever they are showing but maturity,patience and positivity is much needed to understand both raman and ishita's actions..ishita doesn't deserve this much of bashing..i was searching for this kind of post from yesterday evening which our forum is really needed..your post contains all the points what i taught, even more points that i didn't think..thank. u for a lovely post..

Originally posted by: clover

I know many in this forums are irritated and zonked with Ishita's behaviour regarding Adi and his well-being, but we must remember CVs are thinking of the long run.

I admit today's OLV was too much to digest, but isn't Ishita being the antidote to Shagun's poison?

If Ishita was insecure about her position in Raman's life, if she had even an iota of doubt, she wouldn't let Shagun stay in the house. But Raman and Ishita both know that they love each other. On top of that, Raman just renewed their marriage vows. She even knows that he wishes she were his childrens' real mom rather than Shagun. Isn't that like the highest of praise for her? And I'm sure that she didn't like the fact that those earrings belonged to Shagun before they came to her. For however small a time, Shagun was his wife and those earrings might feel cursed for her. She wore them because he wanted her to. She lived that moment and she has that memory with her forever. Ishita has what she wanted from those earrings, her husband's love exclusively for her. Shagun can keep the earrings. Ishita has always been unmaterialistic. Ishita has her prize with her, she is giving Shagun her consolation. And Shagun the fool is very happy with it. Hasn't it always been so, even with Ashok?

When she let Shagun take her place in the family picture Adi was happy to take a picture with both his mom and dad... but will he not also think that if Ishita aunty is as bad as his mom says she is, would she let his mom take her place when his mom claims that his dad has completely forgotten about them because of Ishita? Didn't Ishita just negate everything Shagun told Adi about Raman, their anniversary and those earrings? I don't know how it will proceed but it should put at least a dent in the boy's hatred for Ishita.

Also if Ishita was still in that picture, it would be incomplete anyway... where is Ruhi in that? She is the most important part of their life. I bet that is when Ishita will be in the complete family picture, with both their children.

Raman's words have always come true in this series... its like he is the fortune teller. When the custody case was going on, he himself told Shagun that she and her boyfriend would come to leave his daughter home. He always talks of him and Ishita being happily married with two children. And lets not forget, he has told Shagun that his son will come to him on his own. That his son will one day leave her on his own without him doing anything. If he doesn't do anything then who will? It has to be Ishita.

I'm sure Ishita will face quiet a few moments like this and she might even have a big final fall but she will rise up again. She will always have everything in the end. Because at the end of the day Ishita has everyone with her and Shagun is all alone. Even when she was Raman's wife she had alienated the whole family from her.

Shagun is not able to go into the heart of any matter because she herself is shallow. She thinks only about herself and assumes that everything has to go her way. She is forgetting that removing Ishita from Bhalla house is not as simple as stopping her from being Raman's wife and taking her place. Because Ishita is not a tree that she can uproot. The Bhallas are the trees and she is the water that gives them life. Without Ishita, there is no family.

Please feel free to comment as to what you think.

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Just Putting in an answer to a comment that most are thinking on the lines of... about giving Shagun and Adi false hopes of getting back together with Raman.

"Agreed. Lets assume that Ishita is giving Shagun hopes of getting Raman back into her life. But isn't it a false hope? Will Raman ever go back to her? No.

As for giving Adi false hopes, Adi already knows that his father has his own family with Ishita. That Raman loves Ishita a lot. Part of it is what he saw with his own two eyes and part of it is what Shagun has fed into his brain to increase his insecurity regarding his position in Raman's life. All Adi wants is his dad, or just someone to care about him. Remember Adi's monologue. He says my dad is busy with his own family and my mom is still lost in Ashok, where will I go? Who will care for me?

We have to remember that if either of them tries to let go of the bond then the other one will hold on. When Raman tried to divorce Ishita, she hunted him down and dragged him back home. What do you think Raman will do when Ishita pulls such a stunt? He wont beg like he did with Shagun, he will demand her back, by hook or by crook. There has to be a reason as to why he has been repeating that he is never going to let go of her all the time these days.

All the drama happening now is Shagun's mistaken analysis of the situation and its result. She thinks that he is still the same person he was 7 years ago. She thinks that Raman still loves her deep down because of the children that they had together. What she doesn't realise is that he has had a complete change of not just his heart, but his mind as well. He had truly loved Shagun, and that type of betrayal changes you. Raman changed not only when Shagun left him, he changed when he fell in love with Ishita as well. Today even if Shagun tries to make a place in his life as the mother of his children, he has a better mother more then ready to love and raise his children.

Raman is doing everything now as per Ishita's wishes... letting Shagun stay, spending time with Adi, cutting the anniversary cake, giving her the earrings, everything is for Ishita, not for Adi. he is past that now. He said so himself yesterday... his world starts and ends with Ishita. And Raman takes it all literally. Ishita is happy doing all this... lets just wait and see what happens when she starts feeling sad."

Originally posted by: mnr123

Thanks for replying, but I still fail to understand how this track is helping Adi.

According to ur analysis - Adi needs to get out of blind faith I agree to this coz we can see that Adi surely is blinded in his love for Shagun. Most important thing is Adi is a kid so cant be compared with Ishita/Raman or Simmi who were adults n had potential to think Rationally. So its more complicated to show him that he has loving parents n then break his image of loving parents. It somehow works better to be upfront with Kids - they might rebel but in the end understand the reality.

N for how long r Ishra going to play along with Adi's Blind love? What if he doesnt recover for years from his blind love? What if Adi demands more out of his blind love like Shagun n Raman to stay together n Ishita to stay away from them? R Ishita n Raman going to play into this n keep on pleasing him? Somewhere it has to stop right?

As far as Ruhi is concerned, unfortunately she has more sense than Ishra it seems now to me. 😆

Originally posted by: gravity23

Hey...came across your post..and I must say..quite a positive, refreshing outlook on this topic indeed.

I write daily reviews on YHM and have been long since disappointed with IshRa..their current characterisation..and yet, its nice to read a post that shows hope for all of us.

I have NO DOUBT at all in my mind that EVENTUALLY..IshRa will be together. Eventually, ALL will be okay. But, in the meanwhile when things arent okay..and have been taking infuriating, shocking twists every other day...would it be unfair of us to expect that the lead characters not be desecrated further??

Adi is disturbed. Easily manipulated by his mother. Wants material happiness. Swings between hatred and mild warming up to Ishita. But what I'm most concerned about is...has Ishita drawn the line between loving ADI and preparing him for the truth? Shudnt Raman, as ADI's father sit him down and explain things to him. He's a big boy,am sure he'll understand. Its better than living in a fool's paradise. Ishita is not bad at heart. But I have a continuing grouse with her unreal portrayal. Forgive me for being so blunt, but no matter HOW much a woman trusts her husband, is it acceptable? The current family arrangement?

I dont care much about the earrings...but ill tell u honestly...i care about the EMOTIONAL value they hold. M sure Raman is capable of gifting her more..but logically, does ADI's happiness depend on those earrings? That confused kid only wants lov and attention...and am sure he'll do fine without Shagun around..he'll adapt better...but by giving in to his every whim at this stage and whipping up illusions for him..IMO..isnt right..calls for more disaster towards the end.

Only the end isnt wat makes watch YHM.the means do, too.

And so..it didnt look one bit decent to my eyes...the way she brought in the anniversary cake, with ShaRa acting as husband-wife again...looked distasteful...

Raman should, and could've been told once abt the earrings...she suddenly just came up and handed it over to him.

If I rant, ill go on and on..and dont wanna consume too many pages here..

so ill conclude.that I do not agree with all the points u have put forth..but i respect ur POV..and HOPE..that this drama end soon. Its distasteful, redundant, torturous and unbelievable at the least. Its like..we ALL as an audience r going thru a healing track😛

Once again, thank u for giving me an impetus to keep watching the show..patiently..ill try my level best nt to get pissed :p

Originally posted by: clover

You have to see today's episode to understand this. Ishita will keep doing things for Adi. She will keep trying to make him feel good. At the same time Shagun will keep trying to make him feel bad. One point will come where he will break. He cannot keep hanging on two strings at the same time - one where he can see all the good that Ishita does and the other where his mother tells him that the good is bad.

And even if Ishita doesn't draw that line, Raman will. He has a limit to what he will endure in the name of Adi's betterment, but after that I don't think so. You have to remember, he has fallen in love and his priority has changed. "His world starts and ends with Ishita". Ishita has made the mistake of holding on to Raman's hand, and Raman never lets go.