Shagun's baffling logic

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shagun in the name of protecting her son tried to keep a vicious crime under wraps until Raman found a trail of evidence that led to her doorstep and Shagun was begging Raman to save her for Adi's sake. Even Adi knew that it was out of character for his mother to beg anyone, least of all Raman Bhalla, so he spilled the beans and confessed to the accident.

Her logic is mind boggling too😲..."if I can lie to Ashok, you can also lie to Ishu".

Why hasn't Raman once (including his rant y'day) asked Shagun why she needed his help to clean up her mess caused by her negligent parenting when she had cold-heartedly manipulated Adi and done her best to keep him away from his son for the past six years?

All of a sudden it was okay for Raman, whom Shagun claimed abused Adi as a child to not just save his sorry behind but even take him on a picnic with his manipulative mother and the sister he didn't care two pennies about all these years?😲

When a minor child is involved in any criminal activity (yes it's a crime to hit someone with a car, though Shagun may see it's no big deal if it's Ishu's mother and not her own...she freaked out when Raman pointed it out to her🤔) the custodial parent is responsible for him and can be held accountable for that minor child's actions on account of parental negligence. The judge should throw the book of law at Shagun, to snap her out of her addiction to spas and parties if she still wants to keep custody of Adi.

Logically, after years of negligent parenting she needs to give up custody of Adi's in his best interests. All she knows to do is throw cash at him and indulge his every whim with Ashok's money. Or is she cheating on Ashok with another sugar daddy on the side? Toshiji and Raman (on more than one occasion) called her characterless🤔😕

Why keep custody of Adi if Shagun didn't have the time or inclination to be a proper parent? A child is not a property to hold on to for bragging rights or used as a weapon against an ex-spouse. Her actions so far contradict her claim of loving Adi. She must have a warped sense of what love is. A mother who loves her child will know her priorities and not choose to neglect him for her spa dates and society parties. Ishu listed every one of her deficiencies as a parent when Shagun taunted her at the spa.

What kind of parent raises her child to believe that any problem can be fixed if you throw money at it? Shagun didn't seem concerned that her son showed no remorse or fear since the accident. Any normal child would be traumatized by such an event. Adi has never understood or has he been taught that actions have consequences. This wasn't a small mistake. Someone's life was at stake.

Whether the courts give him some consequences or not, Shagun must be held accountable in some way for her negligence to send a strong message about parental responsibilities. Maybe performing some social service for a change where she can drop her self-centeredness for a few hours a week will do her some good.

Now that Raman knows the truth, he's gutted realizing his 11 year almost killed his mother-in-law. Even though he believes Ishu will understand when he discloses the truth he decides to listen to his conniving ex instead and tortures himself. But that doesn't seem to affect Shagun one bit. She just needs him to fix her mess.

Shagun had the audacity to tell Raman he can't leave her halfway to handle this situation on her own. It's good that Raman didn't lose the opportunity to remind her she's the last person who should broach that subject at all.

What kind of woman shows no empathy for the father of her son who is feeling gutted by the the truth that his 11 year old son committed such a vicious crime. But then in her mind, the world revolves around Shagun.

After everything Raman has done for Adi's sake Shagun still can't let up on her demands. As an irresponsible parent to Adi and after all that's transpired one would think she would show some humility and deference for all that Raman has done to support Adi and her. Instead she shows up, storms in and disrupts his meeting like she's some board member of his company and tells his employees to excuse themselves as Spa queen had some urgent matter to discuss with their boss..

Shagun couldn't look Raman in the eye with every truth he flung her way so she came back shrieking like a fishwife. When will she ever learn that all the spa treatments in the world can't fix the shallowness within her? What's in Shagun's past that she has become such a cold-hearted sociopath? She surely wasn't born this way.

Raman's majboori is self-inficted torture. Granted as a father he is protective of the son he adores. Raman should know that the truth will always surface one way or the other and trying to cover it up only causes a stink that ultimately gets everyone's attention.

Ishu taking this matter to court will force Raman's hand...he is ultimately going to confess the truth to Ishu in private or watch the truth exposed in open court. Why extend the inevitable especially after he knew Ishu wouldn't give up unless justice was served? He could have made it easier on himself, Ishu and both families if only he hadn't listened to the one person who has always been out to destroy him and whom he claims has no importance in his life. Life is a chain of choices and Raman's one wrong move to take Shagun's advice to cover things him has turned him into a Majboor Bhalla.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Woah!
Agree with every word u posted 👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Adi Shagun relationship is complicated i can try and understand but need some explications or logic!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Imanezara

Adi Shagun relationship is complicated i can try and understand but need some explications or logic!!


How did Shagun turn out to be this way? If Mihir is her brother maybe he can shed some light on it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I echo the sentiments expressed my dear. After a long time I just read a post that really shows what happens in real life and consequences, how it effects children. I don't care at this point what Raman does . he can take Shagun on his shoulders if he wishes to . BUT justice has to be served to Shagun she has to pay for every single damage every single tear that was shed by ISHITA . As Ishita said she does not deserve this nor does she need this . Raman has the ideal opportunity to take his son and start fresh ,from this adulterous woman Shagun .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanig123

I echo the sentiments expressed my dear. After a long time I just read a post that really shows what happens in real life and consequences, how it effects children. I don't care at this point what Raman does . he can take Shagun on his shoulders if he wishes to . BUT justice has to be served to Shagun she has to pay for every single damage every single tear that was shed by ISHITA . As Ishita said she does not deserve this nor does she need this . Raman has the ideal opportunity to take his son and start fresh ,from this adulterous woman Shagun .


Ishita is mature enough to understand that Shagun is trying to twist the knife in her. After all Ishu called Shagun out on her terrible parenting of Adi which the spa queen breathing fire and channeling Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction with "Raman loves only Adi and ME".

Recently she's shown the same psychotic outburst at Ashok. Even Adi said to Ishita during their shopping trip "My mom will get angry, I don't want to get her angry". Wonder how Shagun behaves when she gets angry at Adi. We have seen her "disturbed" side recently, maybe a year in the psyche ward will do her some good.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good post👏!
Few thoughts on both Shagun and Raman- (Just my opinion BTW, not to offend anyone)

Shagun has always been self centered and ambitious (in the material sort of way).If I remember in the early FBs of her marriage with Raman, she was introduced as aspiring to be a model even though she was from a small town - so she has always been proud of her looks and how she could use them to her advantage. Her marriage to a middle class guy with low ambitions and a commitment to family is something she could never probably relate to.She used the marriage also as a ladder to further her ambitions. (There are enough such people in real life that we come across).
Her son Adi - is like an extension of her own ambitious self.She sees herself in him like most parents do in their children - but the difference is that the way she uses herself to further her ambitions - she thinks its fair game to use her son too.
I am in two minds about her role in covering up Adi's crime - She cares a lot about her own image in society (that's the first thing she tells Raman when she confesses about the accident) - hence knowing that Adi did this would tarnish her reputation and create a big scandal in the social circles she is part of.
But if she has to chose between her own self image and Adi's future - she might still go with her image and reputation first. So if the court were to reach a conclusion that she is responsible for the hit and run - she might break and reveal the truth because that is just how she is.

Now Raman thinking that she still might not be as stone hearted and have a little love for her son and hence covering up the crime - is also not out of character.For all the misgivings - Adi really loves his mom - the kid doesn't really have anyone else in his life..
Raman is someone who can go totally out of his way to help people he cares for - even if they are wrong or he doesn't know the complete truth.
He bailed out Mihir in the MMS scandal - he didn't have enough proof - just blind belief (Mihir may have been responsible for all that we know).
He bailed out Ishita - in the middle of the night - during the Param fiasco (He didn't know the truth even then - he just knew she was here on a 'threating to murder' charge).
He didn't believe Romi could be responsible for all the crimes he committed - the first thing he said once it all sunk in is that ' jaanwar ban gayaa hai mera bhai..main use insaan banaaonga'.
In Adi's case, in yesterday's episode - Raman clearly blamed Shagun's upbringing for this disaster - he told her that who gifts a car to a 11 year old - and it was her mistakes that he was covering for.
So my take on Raman is that he isn't being an indulgent father - paying through his nose - to get his son out of trouble.But he is just an emotional parent who wants to bail his son out of the biggest mess of his life - but knowing him, he will find a way to teach Shagun a lessson and bring Adi to the right track - like the school bullying track between Shravan and Adi.

Ishita and the trust issue - is just a further complication for Raman at this stage - which he wouldn't have forseen (thanks to a series of MUs, Shagun's drama and Ashok). He always believes he can handle things on his own - he just might be proven wrong this time.
He also believes that his own mishandling of his marriage and divorce has led to Adi being the way he is - he mentions this to Neel - and hence his guilt won't allow him to confess the truth either(even to Ishita) - it is a shameful thing at the end of the day if your pre teen kid is going out of control.
But I have faith in the CVs characterization of Raman - he has a strong sense of right and wrong - he will take his time but come around😊.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Good post👏!

Few thoughts on both Shagun and Raman- (Just my opinion BTW, not to offend anyone)

Shagun has always been self centered and ambitious (in the material sort of way).If I remember in the early FBs of her marriage with Raman, she was introduced as aspiring to be a model even though she was from a small town - so she has always been proud of her looks and how she could use them to her advantage. Her marriage to a middle class guy with low ambitions and a commitment to family is something she could never probably relate to.She used the marriage also as a ladder to further her ambitions. (There are enough such people in real life that we come across).
Her son Adi - is like an extension of her own ambitious self.She sees herself in him like most parents do in their children - but the difference is that the way she uses herself to further her ambitions - she thinks its fair game to use her son too.
I am in two minds about her role in covering up Adi's crime - She cares a lot about her own image in society (that's the first thing she tells Raman when she confesses about the accident) - hence knowing that Adi did this would tarnish her reputation and create a big scandal in the social circles she is part of.
But if she has to chose between her own self image and Adi's future - she might still go with her image and reputation first. So if the court were to reach a conclusion that she is responsible for the hit and run - she might break and reveal the truth because that is just how she is.

Now Raman thinking that she still might not be as stone hearted and have a little love for her son and hence covering up the crime - is also not out of character.For all the misgivings - Adi really loves his mom - the kid doesn't really have anyone else in his life..
Raman is someone who can go totally out of his way to help people he cares for - even if they are wrong or he doesn't know the complete truth.
He bailed out Mihir in the MMS scandal - he didn't have enough proof - just blind belief (Mihir may have been responsible for all that we know).
He bailed out Ishita - in the middle of the night - during the Param fiasco (He didn't know the truth even then - he just knew she was here on a 'threating to murder' charge).
He didn't believe Romi could be responsible for all the crimes he committed - the first thing he said once it all sunk in is that ' jaanwar ban gayaa hai mera bhai..main use insaan banaaonga'.
In Adi's case, in yesterday's episode - Raman clearly blamed Shagun's upbringing for this disaster - he told her that who gifts a car to a 11 year old - and it was her mistakes that he was covering for.
So my take on Raman is that he isn't being an indulgent father - paying through his nose - to get his son out of trouble.But he is just an emotional parent who wants to bail his son out of the biggest mess of his life - but knowing him, he will find a way to teach Shagun a lessson and bring Adi to the right track - like the school bullying track between Shravan and Adi.

Ishita and the trust issue - is just a further complication for Raman at this stage - which he wouldn't have forseen (thanks to a series of MUs, Shagun's drama and Ashok). He always believes he can handle things on his own - he just might be proven wrong this time.
He also believes that his own mishandling of his marriage and divorce has led to Adi being the way he is - he mentions this to Neel - and hence his guilt won't allow him to confess the truth either(even to Ishita) - it is a shameful thing at the end of the day if your pre teen kid is going out of control.
But I have faith in the CVs characterization of Raman - he has a strong sense of right and wrong - he will take his time but come around😊.


Well written post! I agree ...with particular attention to the highlighted in red.
Edited by MERARAI - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@bscorp last few days Raman's side responses are increased. I really liked it.since Raman shagun track I'm trying to explain the thing one who feels guilty definitely will clear mistakes.seriously I think shagun intention is to separates ishra not save adi.I think there is no need to tell adi about iyer is Ishita mum.but shagun did it purposely. I don't think adi blindly love shagun. its because of if shagun missed he will feel lonely.that's why he worried about shagun.there isn't true bonding like ishu ruhi.when adi realise true love of his father things will be clean.I hopes it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with both of you, merarai and Bscorp. I think Raman cannot withdraw from Adi right now. The actor is so bad that you don't realise or feel it, but such a child would be scared and aggressive at the same time. Taking Shagun away from him right now is not the answer.

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