Any solution to Astha's tantrums?

Friends, we all have a different take as to who is to to blame for all the mess right now. Some blame Simran, others Astha, others are just neutral.

What I am wondering is, what can be done to improve the situation. Agreed that Simran could have avoided the problem by being honest from the beginning , and Astha is a spoiled to the extent that she thinks she can get away with anything , but the fact is what has happened has happened and nothing can change the past. And the fact remains that Neha died, Abhi left, Simran brought up Astha and was the centre of Astha's universe and vice versa till Astha accidently came to know she is adopted by non other than her run away dad's ex who is also blamed by a particular person for her mother's death. Whether true or false at this point is irrelevant.

So is there a solution to the problem? Is there a way through which Simran can make Astha understand that inspite of the fact she was not born to him, she is as important to her? Most importantly, make Astha behave? Anyway that they can move on?

Let's have your views friends.

I think Simran and Abhi or at least one of those two must get rather stern with Aastha and not let her get away with all her nonsense.
Aastha is exaggerating the whole thing because a) she never loved anyone
b) she enjoys the fact that she can make everyone dance to her tunes , even her parents .She is playing a risky game and she is sure she is winning it.But with the entry of Kiran her own selfish game might be taken right out of her hands and she might face only regret later in life.

Hi Minnie,
First of all my compliments to you for broaching a new topic and actually moving on.We have been discussing Astha's behavior and Simran and Abhi's faults for months now.What is done is done and one has to find solutions to problems instead of dwelling on them.

Here are my thoughts:
Simran should take a firm stand with Astha.She has been admitting her mistakes to others but has not had a heart to heart talk with Astha.She has been swallowing her pride and letting Astha have her way leading her to think she can dominate everyone around her as if she really were a poor neglected waif and is taking revenge for ill treatment meted out to her.
Many feel that Abhi should now take a stand.I feel Simran alone can bring Astha to her senses.Abhi and the rest of the family should support her and guide her.
The next time Astha opens her mouth to be rude to her,Simran must shut her up very firmly and put her in her place.She should take care to see that Sia and Sid do not interfere when this happens.
Simran has admitted her mistakes but that's no solution to any of her problems.I feel she is not doing much to rectify them.She is letting time be a healer to all their wounds.That's NOT the Simran we know.
According to me all of them need the time and space to understand and adjust to one another.Simran,Abhi,Sia and Astha must move to a seperate house where the parents call the shots like in any normal household.
Since the circumstances demand it,Simran has to remind Astha of her childhood,just make her re-think not make her feel grateful or small.
It's good that Simran has a lot of faith in her love and believes that Astha will come around,but some effort has to be made.At 18+,she is not such a baby.
Simran must get Poonam and Bhavani to talk to Astha about her Nani's state of mind.Instead of avoiding the topic of Radha,she should let Astha know what Radhaji has been through and convince her that they have always sympathised with her.Radha is mentally imbalanced because she could not withstand the shock of losing her only child and now her grandchild,who is the sole momento of her daughter.

I have always believed that one cannot demand love but respect can definitely be commanded.This is what Astha has to be taught by Simran.
Counselling is a big time need for this girl,because she not only breeds hatred within herself,she is becoming more and more scheming and vengeful towards her own people.Two sure ways of self destruction.
This time maybe an outside Psychiatrist or counsellor would be better.

But,Minnie,I wonder what the director has in mind and how many more months of Astha-Kiran's disgusting plots,we might have to watch.But watch,I must. 😊 😉

Cheers,
Akshata

Very Nice Akshata 😊 I agree but I dont think they have to bring a psychiatrist or councellor, only and only Simran can do that by assuring and convincing her that she is still the first priority in her life and by taking her into confidence that she spent 18 years with Simran so she is closer to her heart than Sia.Some kids needs these types of small assurances which make them feel more special.Very happily kids can keep this secret in their heart that their Mom loves him/her more than others.And after growing up or becoming father/mother ,they can realize that parents love is always same for every child.

hi i think astha is 18 now simran and abhi should tell her either she should accept their marriage. or look for a place to live and look for a job. enough is enough. if she can respect them both she can come back and get free room and board. just tell her to grow up if she want them to be honest with her. to get love one need to be respectful.that is all i think.

Minnie, this is a great topic....My brains are already working now, hands itching to write on this. 😆😆

Akshata, a beautiful and well thought-of reply... 😊

Abhi and Simran should first make up their mind to tell everything to Astha, just in the way they did to Sia. They both know very well that Astha has been affected mentally after knowing about the fact that Simran is not her real mother. To top it all, at that stage, Astha spent some days with the mentally unstable Radhaji who had just hatred and nothing else for Simran. Radha has brainwashed Astha to such an extent that Astha is now gone big way in abusing and accusing Simran.

Astha is a very nice girl by heart, she has always been looked after by Simran. She has never had any problems in her life, thanks to Simran who kept her away from the struggles of life. But now, knowing that Astha is struggling to cope with the facts, Abhi and Simran should ask her to sit with them, tell her everything about their life.

I agree that it will be difficult for Astha to digest that though her papa was married to her mama Neha, he had given Simran a place in his heart always. I do not blame Astha for this, as this is the complexity and bitter truth of Abhi-Simran Prem Kahaani.

As Akshata says, Abhi and Simran should have a first round talk with Astha, tell her everything. Then, they can as well tell her about Radha's background, how unstable she was mentally. This can be again confirmed by Bhavani and Poonam whi know much more about Radha. Poonam has lived her life with Radha, so she must be able to throw enough light on Radha's mental condition.

Now that Astha has caught hold of Neha's diary, Abhi should talk to her about this too....He must clearly tell her that he loved Neha(which he really did, we cannot deny that). Neha knew that he had a place for Simran. But Simran never ever tried to come in between them. But the closeness Abhi and Simran had for each other made some deep holes in Neha's mind, which really proved bad for her health. Abhi and Simran made a mistake in not understanding Neha's mental trauma. As Neha has mentioned in her diary, she always felt very insecure with her marriage. But Abhi should also drive into Astha's head that even though Neha wrote all these things in her diary, it is also a fact that Neha asked the same Simran to be her kid's mother and marry Abhi. Abhi should tells Astha that if Neha had ill feelings for Simran, she would not have given her own kid to Simran. Neha could have very easily called Radha in and asked her to take care of the child. Abhi should again ask Poonam to clarify Neha's death wish to Astha.

So, the basic and simple way of handling with Astha is to talk to her calmly and in a composed manner. Tell her everything, give her time to think....

Abhi and Simran should finally say that they both have made mistakes in their life. (Remember they have told this to Sia). Abhi should say he made a mistake by getting close to Kiran. Simran made a mistake of asking Abhi to marry Neha even though she knew that they both love each other...So, I think Abhi and Simran's egos will not hurt if they speak about their mistakes in life. They should tell Astha that they were in some way or the other responsible for Neha's mental trauma , but if they had known of it, they would have corrected themselves on time.

Communication , i think will be the only means in which Astha can be corrected. The more Abhi and Simran hide everything from Astha, the more Astha is going to get wild.

Hey scorpio,
Good to read your reply...been a while.I was away and perhaps I missed your posts and replies.

On second thoughts,I agree with you...there is no need for a counsellor."Taking her into confidence" as you said is the right thing to do to make her feel wanted and a part of the family.

Minnie, Excellent topic.. 👏 ..brilliant - glad someone thought of it 😊

everyone else: great replies from all of u....

scorpi - i think u might have hit the nail on the head...if astha can be convinced she is simrans favourite, then i think it will appease her enough to open her mind, and then they can talk to her and tell them their life story and she may understand...

good stuff peeps - hope to see more replies on this

the only way they can make aastha behave nicer is by leaving her alone.. simran should yell at her and then leave her. and be like im done being nice to u and doing what you wanted. enough is enough.. and everyone should leave aastha. then she would knw what she lost.

Great replies everyone, could not have thought of something better myself.

Scorpio, I think you have a lovely point there. Telling Astha in private that she still is the favourite solely due to what they both have shared over 18 years is a big way to make her feel secure.

Also, telling Astha everything with a cool mind and in a frank manner I too beleive will resolve most of the manners.

Moreover, I feel that Simran must lay down a few basic rules now - that any daughter of hers will have to behave in a certain way.....That might actually bring Astha back to respecting Simran's authority.

Though I wonder if it is too late to do all this. Especially now when Abhi has decided to go Simran's way and hide Kiran's truth from Astha.