the Pallavi Raaz/ A Noble Cause?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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The Pallavi Raaz: A Noble Cause

I was wondering about a few things after watching the Pallavi Raaz
revelation episode. JW was bound by a Kasam to not reveal the truth
about her being pregnant with Jeet's child or was it a Kasam to not reveal
to anyone that they were in the room together. And she accidentally
falls off the building while struggling with JW, Jigyasa as witness. (Yes,
Pallavi seemed very distraught and wanted to kill her child, because she
blamed Jeet if he ever found out he would not believe her that she was
carrying his child? —Pallavi version of the story) (So, far in this flashback
it was Jigyasa narration and Jigyasa pov of the story)

I was wondering how can a man choose not to tell the truth of the
accidental death of a young woman whom he considered to be like a
sister to her own family? Just curious here. Apparently, Pallavi worked
for JW and had a brother/sister like relationship with him. So why did JW,
as her brother like friend, not reveal to her family the cause of Pallavi's
death? As a brother like friend he did not think it in the best interest of
his sister like family to know? The kasam of Pallavi to JW: not to Reveal
to anyone that she was pregnant
or not to disclose that she was in the hotel room with JW?

A mother spent 20 yrs living with questions surrounding the
circumstances regarding her daughter's death. She wanted to question
the man whom she believed to be her daughter's murderer--why? Why
did you kill my daughter?
A man spent 20 yrs planning revenge on someone whom he considered
to be his love's killer. All this was a result of someone who made a
decision not to disclose to the dead persons family the reason behind her
death. How would Jeet kill her if she was already dead? For one man who
thought it in his or his sister like employee's best interest to not reveal
the truth surrounding his employee's death to her own family. How was
the family supposed to move on into the future with all these questions
regarding the death of their loved one?

The bottom line is noone who is involved in this scenario comes out
smelling like a white rose. The domino effect of one persons decision to
not reveal the truth surrounding a persons death resulted in far and wide
serious repercussions in the lives of all the people involved. The mother
needed to know of her daughter's death. She had the right as a mother.
The husband and lover no matter if he was possessive needed to know.
So who was really responsible for creating this revenge scenario in AD?

Some questions to ponder:

Why did Jigyasa have a report for 20 yrs of Pallavi..was it a post morteum
report or the pregnancy report?

Why did JW not feel the need to reveal to Pallavi's family circumstances
around her death?

So what is Jigyasa hiding, as she said to Adi that she did this for her
children? She saved her brother from going to jail. Yes, that she did.


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Posted: 18 years ago
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Bavie if i can say this without offending you 😕 or anyone else etc and with your guys force am doing this ok so smile

Basically to me it is all confusing from your questions why would she have reports ok lets accept that she had reason..i dont get how her kids involved in it 😕.Theres more where does pushkar come into it? ..why was jw so scared it cannot have been beacuse of kasamh se and how did he not recognise the name or tell ad the cause.

With ADs side been shown i think the full and other side to the raaz may come out.
Edited by Ektas_Angel - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ektas_Angel

Bavie if i
can say this without offending you 😕 or anyone else etc and with your
guys force am doing this ok so smile Basically to me it is all confusing
from your questions why would she have reports ok lets accept that she
had reason..i dont get how her kids involved in it 😕.Theres more where
does pushkar come into it? ..why was jw so scared it cannot have been
beacuse of kasamh se and how did he not recognise the name or tell ad
the cause. With ADs side been shown i think the full and other side to the
raaz may come out.



angel
not offended at all....I have so many questons regarding this raaz...and
when Jigs came in to save her brother...I was like no Jigs u did not just do
that...made me suspicious...and we saw the flashbck from Jigs pov...yes
she said she did it for her kids...unless if JW goes to jail for a murder, he
hands over his wealth to Bani and so Jigs and her kids get nothing????

There is more to this...I am sure nina, we will indeed get to see AD's side
of the story in flashbck....maybe Pallavi was seeing someone else...i dont
knw..what else do u thnk?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I completly agree with you...the story just confuses me...JW is a looser it has been proved again n again many times....

as i think n again not offending anyone...JW did not know who Jeet was as he did not recognise him...i am presuming he did not know pallavi's mom...not givin excuses ...after all JW was n i stress on WAS a business tycoon he cud hav found out but then he is a looser...so he did not...

Now my question is that the mom n AD seemed to know who murdered their lover n daughter...that has been proven coz they waited bloody 20 yrs...why?????

wud it not hav been right for AD to be man enough to go n smack the hell out of JW then n there....

Damn but then how wud the creatives get a chance to build AD's character n then destroy just as they did JW....

coz in my pov they r just doing that...look I am not an AD fan...actually i dont like his character...but there r ppl here who do and i feel atleast now we sud be united in protesting...between JW fans n AD fans one thing is common we love n hate passionately so if we got together and raised our voice made protest petition wot ever.... maybe...just maybe this butchering of characters will stop.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Bavie, congrats on coming up with a FANTASTIC post 👏

To start off with, I think that this whole revenge track was very badly written. Whilst I am not the type of person that will bash creatives and call them names, I cannot deny the fact that this whole track had something of a lame ending - an anti-climax. The way everything was going, the main characters in this raaz, JW and AD, both did an excellent job of making out to the viewers that this was going to be a powerful raaz... instead it only turned out to be powerful acting that mislead us into believing that this story was going to have substance! 😆

Anyways, thanks to the writing, I'm in total agreement with you Bavie - no one comes out of this story smelling like a rose (or any pleasant smelling flower for that matter).

To start off with, the awesome Aparajit Deb actually comes across as parajit after Jigyasa told the story. The realisation that AD has spent half his life brooding and full of hatred towards a guy who really did not do anything, it's kinda crazy! All those attacks that he whupped JW with, all that effort, all that plotting... it was all a waste because of a misconception.

On a less serious note, the guy wouldn't have had to pick up Bani 5 years ago and spend all that money and time looking after her and training her to be his shastra if he had known about the Pallavi suicide beforehand!

And the formidable JW has seemingly made another bad decision, because by holding back the truth behind this "raaz", he did himself no favours at all. Granted that it was another Kasamh Se special kasam... but was it really worth that keeping such a kasam that would cause this much damage (not just to himself, but mainly to the Deb family)?

The fact that the true reason of a girls death was kept from her own mother is something which is sad. For all those years, AD's mother in law must have held a lot of negetivity within her because of the thought that someone had killed her daughter.

And similarly, because the truth was held from AD, as the mother in law said, the guy turned from a man into a heartless dude... all because the truth was not told. Kasams are all good... but a kasam that would cause this much grief all round?

I'm sure that even the dead Pallavi would be turning in her grave when she found out how many lives would take turns for the worse by her kasam remaining intact - her mother, AD, JW and his family, Durga/Bani... they were all whupped as a result!

From every perspective I look at it, the fact that the truth was never revealed was a blunder - for the characters (because they ALL seem to be in for a whuppin) and also for storylines (because it was somewhat lame and has loopholes than you can comfortably fit elephants through).

I've only read the written updates this week because I've been a tad busy. The reports that Jigyasa holds... I'm absolutely clueless what use they can be. I mean, if it was a post morteum report or pregnency report, I would have thought that the Deb family would have had them instead of total outsiders! I mean, how could the suicide/murder stuff have gotten past the police at the time? I'm still baffled by this story (or lack of for that matter)...

As I've said before, I think that JW made yet another blunder by not telling the Deb family the truth about Pallavi's death.

And Jigyasa... it seems a bit fishy still. Maybe she is still hiding something (possibly stuff that is even unknown to JW)... or it could be another writing blooper.

For the sake of storylines and good television, I sure hope that it is not the real end of the raaz because it was impactless.

And now the latest articles suggest that JW is going to become barbaad simply because AD is staking a claim to Bani/DDG... that's kinda sad because it should have been the raaz instead of something like Bani walkout number 173 that brings JW down.

Overall, great acting by all cast members... but writers, please make an extra effort because this raaz was a total disaster.

Once again Bavie, congrats on an excellent and very intelligent post 👍🏼

God bless.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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wat a noble thought. Good post
just a question.
do you guys make a post when all of u r online together, I mean I always see you guys supporting each other so I was confused.

Keep up the good job of blaming one or the other characters. 😃

Queenie
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanam84



I completly agree with you...the story just confuses me...JW is a looser it has been proved again n again many times....

as i think n again not offending anyone...JW did not know who Jeet was as he did not recognise him...i am presuming he did not know pallavi's mom...not givin excuses ...after all JW was n i stress on WAS a business tycoon he cud hav found out but then he is a looser...so he did not...

Now my question is that the mom n AD seemed to know who murdered their lover n daughter...that has been proven coz they waited bloody 20 yrs...why?????

wud it not hav been right for AD to be man enough to go n smack the hell out of JW then n there....

Damn but then how wud the creatives get a chance to build AD's character n then destroy just as they did JW....

coz in my pov they r just doing that...look I am not an AD fan...actually i dont like his character...but there r ppl here who do and i feel atleast now we sud be united in protesting...between JW fans n AD fans one thing is common we love n hate passionately so if we got together and raised our voice made protest petition wot ever.... maybe...just maybe this butchering of characters will stop.



Hey Sanam84!

Thanks for posting to this thread! It's great to see that JW fans and AD fans are still able to have good and healthy discussions once again. Good on you Sanam84 👍🏼

I have to agree that it's the writing that was the letdown here. The is a school of thought going around that suggests that the full raaz is not out yet... if that is the case or not, there are still going to be loopholes galore and I doubt that anyone will be happy.

I'm not to sure about JW being a loser though... because of his past strength and reputation, I'd still say that he has what it takes to get back his past glory. But yeah, he (thanks to bad writing and stories) has made some very unusual blunders (mainly to do with holding back the truth) which have had the effect of watering down the strength that his character had at the start. I still have faith that he can get it back though with the help of a good story though.

As I said in my previous post, this raaz hasn't benefitted a single character really... because I've read an article which says that JW is going to go on yet another downward spiral - for the lamest of reasons (simply because AD stakes a claim to Durga/Bani).

I had my own idea as to how the raaz story was going to go - I thought that raaz would put the Walia's in trouble and bring them from riches to rags... and somehow Durga would turn back into Bani when she found out that she was being used - therefore she would join the Walias once again even though they are in trouble. Then during tough times, I thought that the Walia's would pull together, unite and work their way up again and try to withstand further AD attacks. That way I felt that even JB could pull together and for the first time ever, pull through tough times TOGETHER rather than solving problems by splitting. I thought that way they could even get back their magic that has been missing for roughly 9-10 months.

But it seems that nothing of the sort will happen... instead a love triangle which no one is particularly keen on. All AD fans that I talk to, none of them seem to care for a AD-DDG pairing... all we want is good stories so that the series can progress. Our belief is that the AD character does actually give potential to the writers for good stories... but it only works IF the writers are able to use that potential well. This raaz thing did have potential to be great... but it turned out embarressingly bad

To be honest, AD fans don't have anything against a JB pairing at all... we just want good stories!

I suppose you are right Sanam84... none of us are happy at this moment in time!

Thanks again for posting 👍🏼

God bless.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Bavie,

Good post, I have given up trying to find logic in the plot...but out of all the raazes, this seems to be the most 'dud'diest (If such a word exists) of all.

Park Raaz - OK, he killed MiL by accident and didn't tell the big secret

Jigs and Ranveer Raaz - OK, she thought she was saving his fortune and trying not to hurt his feelings that his sis and nephew are so bad....(by not telling him about them trying to steal stuff)

Bandh Darwaza Raaz - don't know how that one fizzled out

Udai Walia Raaz - Bernali killed him and Jigs concealed it, OK!

Now this one - so many bloopers and un-answered questions....

1) They could have Moksh or Pushkar be the long lost son of AD and Pallavi - and JW rescued them after Pallavi dies...and told Pushkar that he is an orphan (Nicely tying the loophole)

2) What's the tomb secret all about, why turkey, if she fell off a stupid building?

3) What's the big deal about some one helping a girl into their room - I guess the word 'Platonic' is not known to 'us' desis... 😕

4) Why is JW scared or trying to conceal Pallavi's death, especially if he knows that the lover was the cause of the death?

5) Why is MiL still siding with Jeet, when Jigs told her it was Jeet's junoon and jealousy that caused her daughter's death?

6) Was AD married to Pallavi? Is he really the damad of MiL or was he just a lover of Pallavi?😕

I am hoping that they would neatly tie the loose ends, for once and for all - we already know that the creatives, editors and directors on this show don't work hand in hand - they don't know what the other is doing!!

I feel like I am watching 'ET' - the extra-terrestrials at play and it is not even as cute as 'ET'!! 😕

KS defies logic..

Edited by Sheena_Row - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: ice_queen

wat a noble thought. Good post
just a question.
do you guys make a post when all of u r online together, I mean I always
see you guys supporting each other so I was confused.

Keep up the good job of blaming one or the other characters. 😃

Queenie




thanks for your comment...
The gist of this post is to discuss the characters involved in this scenario
and the aftermath of the revenge track and as per the conclusion I have
stated in the post and below...
The bottom line is noone who is involved in this scenario
comes out
smelling like a white rose.
It just is a great tragedy for all
people involved...
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: aperture




thanks for your comment...
The gist of this post is to discuss the characters involved in this scenario
and the aftermath of the revenge track and as per the conclusion I have
stated in the post and below...
The bottom line is noone who is involved in this scenario
comes out
smelling like a white rose.
It just is a great tragedy for all
people involved...

I agree, big tragedy. Especially for the Aparjit Deb who suddenly came out as a loser aka parajit.

Queenie

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