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Posted: 2 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Yaar come on Dasis can't take place of wife 


Wives were their friend, companion, Dasis were only to spend time and enjoy 


Shantanu would have been love stuck and missing a companion not like suffering from physical deprivation 

Achha, I have read that Janaka sent many Dasis with Sita during her Bidayi.


Were they just Dasis? Or were they Dasis like Vidura and Yuyutsu's mothers?

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Posted: 2 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Yaar come on Dasis can't take place of wife 


Wives were their friend, companion, Dasis were only to spend time and enjoy 


Shantanu would have been love stuck and missing a companion not like suffering from physical deprivation 


Do you really think a daasi/fisherwoman's father would have the power to demand throne for unborn grandsons or Shantanu would be so love sick as to keep quiet while his good son is deprived of his rights 


Satyavati was chedi king Uparichara Vasu's biological daughter. Uparichara Vasu had 5 more sons (one of them who was twin of Satyavati was made king of Matsya). The eldest inherited Chedi. The other three were Kings of Malla Vatsa and Magadha. 


Satyavati was only sister of 5 powerful kings that surrounded kuru territory on 5 sides. 


She had a skin disease at birth that gave her fish like smell hence named Matsyagandha that Parasara father of Vyasa cured in return for giving him a son Vyasa. The reason for her living with fisherfolk 

It was only after that she became a sweet smelling lady good enough to be queen of Hastinapur 


There was no love there but politics purely 

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Posted: 2 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Chiillii


Do you really think a daasi/fisherwoman's father would have the power to demand throne for unborn grandsons or Shantanu would be so love sick as to keep quiet while his good son is deprived of his rights 


Satyavati was chedi king Uparichara Vasu's biological daughter. Uparichara Vasu had 5 more sons (one of them who was twin of Satyavati was made king of Matsya). The eldest inherited Chedi. The other three were Kings of Malla Vatsa and Magadha. 


Satyavati was only sister of 5 powerful kings that surrounded kuru territory on 5 sides. 


She had a skin disease at birth that gave her fish like smell hence named Matsyagandha that Parasara father of Vyasa cured in return for giving him a son a Vyasa. The reason for he living with fisherfolk 

It was only after that she became a sweet smelling lady good enough to be queen of Hastinapur 


There was no love there but politics purely 

Oh that's interesting! I have not much knowledge of Mahabharata. I have always thought she's a fisherman's daughter because that's what they showed in lot of mytho movies and serials. 

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Posted: 2 years ago
#74

Satyavati was not only Uparachira vasu's daughter, he also asked the fisher chief to marry her to Shanthanu. It was a planned marriage. 

Bheeshma didn't take the vow simply out of love for his father. Hastinapuri really didn't have a choice there. Bheeshma on his own wouldn't have allies. Satyavati's children would.


I suspect Pandavas choosing Matsya to hide out in and the Abhimanyu-Uttara wedding was also a message to the Kauravas that the Pandava side had political legitimacy. 

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Btw, @Chiillii, there is a disease called trimethylaminuria which causes fish odor. It is treated with diet modification or antibiotics. Activated charcoal is another. There is evidence ancient Indians used activated charcoal to purify water. So perhaps your theory re: her smell is right (not a skin disorder, though).

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Posted: 2 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Satyavati was not only Uparachira vasu's daughter, he also asked the fisher chief to marry her to Shanthanu. It was a planned marriage. 

Bheeshma didn't take the vow simply out of love for his father. Hastinapuri really didn't have a choice there. Bheeshma on his own wouldn't have allies. Satyavati's children would.


I suspect Pandavas choosing Matsya to hide out in and the Abhimanyu-Uttara wedding was also a message to the Kauravas that the Pandava side had political legitimacy. 

Who is 'he"? Satyavati's father Uparichar Vasu?

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Posted: 2 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: vyapti

Who is 'he"? Satyavati's father Uparichar Vasu?


yes.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#78

Is this mentioned in MB? Was he alive then? Or was it her brother?


Who was king of Chedi after Uparichar Vasu? Satyavati's twin? Or one of her half brothers?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

Oh that's interesting! I have not much knowledge of Mahabharata. I have always thought she's a fisherman's daughter because that's what they showed in lot of mytho movies and serials. 

The story goes something like this. (Others please correct me if there are are mistakes).


Once upon a time Uparichar Vasu's queen was in her fertile period. So she "asked him to give her a child".

But he went hunting leaving her in palace. (Don't remember the reason)


In the natural surrounding of woods he remembered her even more. He could not control himself.

After that he collected his s***n in a leaf and gave it to a bird to carry it to his queen Girika. But on the way the leaf fell from the bird's beak into a river. A fish dovoured it. The fish was actually an Apsara named Adrika reborn. Fishermen recovered two babies from her, a male and a female.


When Uparichar Vasu was informed about the twins he took the son with him to his kingdom. The daughter Satyavati was given to Dasaraj. So Dasaraj was the adoptive father of Satyavati.


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Posted: 2 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: vyapti

Is this mentioned in MB? Was he alive then? Or was it her brother?


Who was king of Chedi after Uparichar Vasu? Satyavati's twin? Or one of her half brothers?

After Uparichara his eldest son Kausamb became king of chedi, his second son Brihadratha became king of Magadha. Third son Malla became king of Malla. Manivahan became king of Vatsa  and Satyavati's twin brother Matsya established Matsya kingdom.