What a joke of the medical profession...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Holy crap. So I just watched the latest two episodes and as many of you have mentioned, there are sooooo many loopholes in Mahima's story. But I'm gonna focus on one thing only — the writers’ absolute neglect of any form of medical or scientific accuracy. Because, as a neuroscience student, I feel like banging my head on a wall. Repeatedly.


What kind of nonsense is this? What joke have these people made of mental illness? Let alone consult a medical professional, they didn't even do any form of research on these elaborate medical conditions they're attempting to show. Not even a Wikipedia search.


Which psychiatrist tells a depressed patient to "change their surroundings" (from Delhi to Chennai) to feel better? This is advice you find on internet blogs by self-declared medicinal gurus. A real psychiatrist either prescribes anti-depressants or schedules you for therapy or even both. Change and travel probably won't help on its own if the patient isn't treated for the root illness.


Also, what is this obsession in ITV with miracles bringing dead people back to life? Can't the writers just invest a few minutes of research to explain these kinds of things? Like "locked-in syndrome" where a person cannot move, speak, talk, react, or even blink, but is awake and aware. Or "persistent vegetative state" where a person is being kept alive with the help of machines until the family decides to let them pass away. There's even "Lazarus syndrome" where blood circulation spontaneously restarts after cardiac death, although it is extremely rare.


Which era do the writers and CVs live in? Do they think we live in the 1950s where psychotic patients are chained up and drugged in mental asylums? And what terms are they using to justify Mahima's condition? Depression??? What she suffered for seven years isn't depression. Sure, she might have suffered from depression initially, but later, Mahima's disconnect from reality where she tries to harm others, harm herself, and then kill herself is called psychosis.


And please explain to me in which world is a dead woman carried to the morgue and just left there? After Mahima "died," was nobody going to perform her last rites? Did Preesha seriously just leave her dead sister there and left with Saaransh??


Moreover, for six years, Mahima descended into psychosis. But one fine day, she saw Preesha and Saaransh in the paper and decided that she wanted to get better on her own? She instructed her doctor that she doesn't want to live on medications and injections?? And the doctor obliged???? Who is the patient and who is the doctor in this scenario? So what kind of message is this supposed to give about people with mental health illnesses? That if they want to get better, if they have a reason to get better, they can get better on their own?? NO MAN, that's not how it works!!! If you have a broken arm, but you WANT to heal it, that doesn't mean it will just get better without treatment! If you have a mental illness, it doesn't just go away because you find "motivation"! It goes away when you get proper medical attention.


AND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, IS PREESHA EVEN A DOCTOR? How did she not ask any questions about Mahima's preposterous story?


Now coming to the flashback in today’s episode where the forensic expert tells Rudra that Preesha isn’t Saaransh’s mother. He said that their DNA didn’t match. Sure. Maybe they didn’t have enough of a match to prove that she was his mother. Parents share about 50% of DNA with their child. The report showed that this wasn’t the case with Preesha and Saaransh. But didn’t any of their DNA match at all considering that she is his maternal aunt (maasi)? Somewhere from 20-25% of DNA should have matched, at least.


And what explanation was that guy giving about “chromosome XX?” Apparently Saaransh didn’t have a chromosome XX like Preesha did, so he wasn’t her son. OF COURSE HE DIDN’T HAVE TWO X CHROMOSOMES YOU NITWIT, HE’S A BOY! Girls have two X chromosomes and boys have one X and one Y chromosome!! How is this any explanation for whether Preesha and Saaransh are biologically related or not?? Come on people, this is middle school science!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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And one more thing, in Saturday's episode, once Mahima was "all better," did the doctor just decide to discharge her and let her go just like that? Was he not going to call any family member to come get her? Does she not need to come back for follow up appointments? I mean, seriously, he was behaving as if he were releasing a rehabilitated animal back into the wild rather than a patient with serious mental health issues.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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OMGG I LOVE THIS POST.


HAHAHA


The chromosome thing. CRACKED ME UP.


I remember hearing that like.. HEH!?


im in health science profession also and the absurdity annoys the shit out of me. But alas what to expect from a kekta show lol. Indian dramas dont ever consilt with an actual doctor either so ....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi. Are you specialising in Neuromedicine? I'm a doctor too. Everything you said is so true. I have stopped questioning these things also. These TV shows are so poorly researched. It seems to be going from bad to worse because they can get away with it.

Honestly if they could show good content there would be no reason why shows from our country couldn't be popular worldwide just like Asian shows are.

I find Medical scenes the funniest. They don't care to do any research whatsoever and I don't think it even takes a doctor to point out the gross errors.

It is this lack of attention to details in the story, characters, the scenes that absolutely destroy the charm of the story. The romance looks out of place because they don't care for any continuity at all.

Preesha is apparently a Gynaecologist who seems to have no work pressure or night calls. I'd love her job. Rudra strolls into a sterile OT like no issue.

I could go on and on.😆

I have shifted mostly to Asian shows for this reason and they have mostly flawless medical scenes. Even I can't find fault. I get really impressed with the attention to small detail. Have you tried out such shows?

Thankfully content on OTT platforms seem to be much better in quality so lots of hope. TV is not growing at all.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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@TM - great post! 👏


The way they have been depicting mental illness here is horrible! Ek toh everyone gets sent to mental hospital ainvayi. 🤪


First Kirti, who was sent to mental asylum and then subjected to shock treatment, just because of depression. Matlab who even does that?


And now, Mahima. Same story. Why is somehow depression always the Big Bad here? So much of stigmatizing of mental health going on. And to top all that, the pseudo-science - OMG! One fine morning, she gets motivation and medications are no more needed - LOL! If you take a patient off medications suddenly after 6 years of treatment, the patient is bound to get withdrawal, the consequences of which can even lead to death.


I can understand that they may not know all this. But now when mental health is such a serious issue, at least thoda research toh karlo. Bas Google hi karna hota hai. If you can't even do that, just don't show it in your show. As simple as that. I don't understand how even in 2020 these people have no qualms about showing such archaic portrayals. 🤢

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Posted: 4 years ago
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super post Adithi....


just ignore the scientific facts...


which family leaves there child deadbody in morgue...


or which sister will leave like tat...............


STUPID idiotic execution of MAHIMA past

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Good Morning to all,

I started watching the show since last week.

I agree with all opinions expressed here.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Wanderer-

Hi. Are you specialising in Neuromedicine? I'm a doctor too. Everything you said is so true. I have stopped questioning these things also. These TV shows are so poorly researched. It seems to be going from bad to worse because they can get away with it.

Honestly if they could show good content there would be no reason why shows from our country couldn't be popular worldwide just like Asian shows are.

I find Medical scenes the funniest. They don't care to do any research whatsoever and I don't think it even takes a doctor to point out the gross errors.

It is this lack of attention to details in the story, characters, the scenes that absolutely destroy the charm of the story. The romance looks out of place because they don't care for any continuity at all.

Preesha is apparently a Gynaecologist who seems to have no work pressure or night calls. I'd love her job. Rudra strolls into a sterile OT like no issue.

I could go on and on.😆

I have shifted mostly to Asian shows for this reason and they have mostly flawless medical scenes. Even I can't find fault. I get really impressed with the attention to small detail. Have you tried out such shows?

Thankfully content on OTT platforms seem to be much better in quality so lots of hope. TV is not growing at all.


Bold: I'm not a doctor. I'm in college getting a degree where I'm specializing in neuroscience


Red: I know right! These people have seemed to completely forget that Preesha is a doctor. I guess we can cut them some slack at the moment though, since her license has been cancelled. But why is no one doing anything to get her license reinstated or renewed? And Rudra barging into that operation room just cracked me up honestly.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: kashev

@TM - great post! 👏


The way they have been depicting mental illness here is horrible! Ek toh everyone gets sent to mental hospital ainvayi. 🤪


First Kirti, who was sent to mental asylum and then subjected to shock treatment, just because of depression. Matlab who even does that?


And now, Mahima. Same story. Why is somehow depression always the Big Bad here? So much of stigmatizing of mental health going on. And to top all that, the pseudo-science - OMG! One fine morning, she gets motivation and medications are no more needed - LOL! If you take a patient off medications suddenly after 6 years of treatment, the patient is bound to get withdrawal, the consequences of which can even lead to death.


I can understand that they may not know all this. But now when mental health is such a serious issue, at least thoda research toh karlo. Bas Google hi karna hota hai. If you can't even do that, just don't show it in your show. As simple as that. I don't understand how even in 2020 these people have no qualms about showing such archaic portrayals. 🤢


Bold: I haven't actually seen the episodes with Kirti Jain and her murder, but I can imagine what you're talking about. I've seen it in other movies and shows. And it disgusts me. I mean all they need to do is some sincere research. That's it. For instance, there is already an upcoming treatment called electroconvulsive therapy or ECT which has to do with giving tiny electrical impulses to stimulate the brain as a treatment for depression or other mental disorders. It has even been shown to be more effective than anti-depressants some times.


Red: These people use the word depression and show characters that are full on psychotic. It's ridiculous. They don't even realize how complex and intricate mental health and its disorders actually are. You're also right about the withdrawal thing too. In the real word, if a doctor did what that doctor did, then the patient would end up worse than he/she initially was. I can't believe they showed that Mahima -- a mental health patient who had been suicidal and kept on drugs for six years -- decided one day that she didn't want any medication, and that doctor just agreed to it! Like, are you the doctor or is she?


Blue: I agree. They can easily come up with many different stories if they didn't know how to handle mental health properly. They could have said that Mahima was in a coma for seven years and just recovered. Or she was in a coma for 4-5 years and then suffered from amnesia for 1-2 years before she fully recovered and remembered that she had a son and family. But why, oh why, do they have to increase the already ever present stigma around mental health is beyond me.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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who paid all those medical bills ???? did she have that much money ???

If yes - why did not go abroad with saransh and live with own child....???


No one will give that kind of treatment free !!! not even public hospitals....

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