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Ok i just was making a fun post on Duryodhan in a thread and realized that his life was full of tragedies

Just thought of making a separate thread on it

1) Despite being a royal born prince, he could never become a king although his close friends who according to him were from humble backgrounds became kings

2) Despite being named Duryodhan, he literally lost to nearly everyone whom he confronted. Going by regional retellings and Srimad Bhagwatam He even during the Haran of his wife from Bhanumati Swayamwar, he couldn't do it on his own and needed Karna's help to defeat other kings

3) He went to the forest to insult the Pandavas and got arrested by Gandharvas only to be freed by the same Pandavas

4) None of his Commander in Chiefs actually fought for his victory.

5) His soulmate was obsessed for someone else

6) Everything that he won in the first game of dice was returned by his father without taking even asking for his opinion  (forget taking his approval)

7) All the TV shows make his character commit the sins which actually were committed by his best friend

8) He poisons Bheem out of hatred and he returns all the more healthy


Now to add a few real ones

1) His own uncle demanded for his killing at birth stating that birth was inauspicious, irrespective of how he turned out to be later, no one is a born evil and getting to know about the infanticide suggestions by own uncle would actually unstable the minds of anyone

2) He had to get his daughter married off to her molester (could be a reason why he hated Krishna more)

3) Had to witness the death of his beloved son. Correct me, but I don't think any Pandav had to bear that sorrowful sight, Karna surely had to, but going by his character, I doubt he had any love for him



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Posted: 3 years ago

Biggest tragedy of his life were his parents who were wrapped up with their on needs and issues to ever pay attention to him Had either dritrashtra or Gandhi taken an active effort in their kids life probably things wouldn't have gone as far as it did 

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My two cent psychoanalysis here... Sorry for the long post.


1. Pandu was born impotent. Just like Dhritrashtra was born blind. But unlike blindness, Pandu could hide it till he had two wives. After which he could not and hence had to cook up the story of curse and abdicate.


2. Dhritrashtra knew very well that only King chooses the next king. And the one bypassed has no rights whatsoever or his sons. He tells the same to Duryodhan before the war. And he had examples of his father's cousins somdatta and devapi's children who never got the throne after Vichitravirya died. Yet Duryodhan till Pandavas reached was under the impression that Throne was his. Why?


3. Because Bhishma, Kripa and Dhritrashtra presumed that impotent Pandu will adopt Duryodhan when he comes of age as his heir. They raise him with that presumption.


4. They made this presumption inspite of Pandu having Yudhishtir through Niyoga. Because they had no intention of accepting Yudhishtir. If they had accepted Yudhishtir as Pandu's son, Dhritrashtra would never fill  Duryodhan's mind with an impossible dream of being a king. No loving father would do that. Tell a child he will get sonethibg he cannot.

I beleive not just blind Dhritrashtra but Bhishma and Kripa initially and Drona after Pandavas forge alliance with Drupad wanted Duryodhan as King. Supported him with his whole heart. They just did not want Yudhishtir.


5. Duryodhan since he was born must have been raised as a future king by Bhishma and Kripa. Karna and Shakuni had no power till Duryodhan actually grew up. Dhritrashtra was blind. 


6. That is why Pandu didnt return as soon as he had children. Because he was not welcome back with them


7.  Sanyasis are not even cremated by their own children, forget state funeral.  Pandu died in the forest but instead of cremating him there, Kunti brought his remains to Hastinapur . She came with congregation of politically powerful rishis and brahmanas  and Bhishma was forced by Rishis to give Pandu a state funeral. Not just that. The rishis made a public proclamation of Pandavas being divine born heir of Pandu the king. This is very explicit in the text.


8. Unwilling Bhishma, Kripa and Dhritrashtra were forced to accept Pandavas.


9. Then poisoning happens. A 10 year old Dury cannot cook up this elaborate conspiracy. Shakuni and Karna (who was atleast 20 at the time) may have done it. But it is impossible that Bhishma and Kripa did not know. They knew and ignored it, because they supported Duryodhan. That is why with vidur's advice Kunti keeps quiet, but Yuyutsu is cultivated to be their spy


10.  Then Drona arrives and he takes a fancy to Arjun. As an excellent guru he realises Duryodhan with entire kuru army cannot avenge him but a properly trained Arjun can do it even alone. And he by refusing Karna throws his weight behind Arjun and Pandavas for the oath that Arjun takes to give him whatever gurudakshina he asks for


10. Lakshagriha. Citizens of Varnavrat openly declared that this was Dhritrashtra Dury conspiracy and that Bhishma and Kripa passively supported it. That is why Vidur's advice to lay low and find powerful allies just like Kunti did whEn Pandu died.


11. When Pandavas return this time they have Dwarka Panchal and Chedi by their side. Drona seeing Pandavas with Drupad also switches to kouravas.


12. But here too, Bhishma ensures through partition that Hastinapur stays with them and Pandavas get a barren IP, infested with robbers and  Nagas.


Duryodhan was raised to be the king of Hastinapur by Bhishma and Kripa and supported later by Ashwatthama and Drona.


Karna was with him to initially get back anga that belonged to his adoptive father's adhirath's family that Pandu had taken in his digvijay and later to get back at Kunti. He was aware or made aware at some point that Kunti was his mother. Shakuni and Dussasan were just his henchmen

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This content was originally posted by: Chiillii

My two cent psychoanalysis here... Sorry for the long post.


1. Pandu was born impotent. Just like Dhritrashtra was born blind. But unlike blindness, Pandu could hide it till he had two wives. After which he could not and hence had to cook up the story of curse and abdicate.


2. Dhritrashtra knew very well that only King chooses the next king. And the one bypassed has no rights whatsoever or his sons. He tells the same to Duryodhan before the war. And he had examples of his father's cousins somdatta and devapi's children who never got the throne after Vichitravirya died. Yet Duryodhan till Pandavas reached was under the impression that Throne was his. Why?


3. Because Bhishma, Kripa and Dhritrashtra presumed that impotent Pandu will adopt Duryodhan when he comes of age as his heir. They raise him with that presumption.


4. They made this presumption inspite of Pandu having Yudhishtir through Niyoga. Because they had no intention of accepting Yudhishtir. If they had accepted Yudhishtir as Pandu's son, Dhritrashtra would never fill  Duryodhan's mind with an impossible dream of being a king. No loving father would do that. Tell a child he will get sonethibg he cannot.

I beleive not just blind Dhritrashtra but Bhishma and Kripa initially and Drona after Pandavas forge alliance with Drupad wanted Duryodhan as King. Supported him with his whole heart. They just did not want Yudhishtir.


5. Duryodhan since he was born must have been raised as a future king by Bhishma and Kripa. Karna and Shakuni had no power till Duryodhan actually grew up. Dhritrashtra was blind. 


6. That is why Pandu didnt return as soon as he had children. Because he was not welcome back with them


7.  Sanyasis are not even cremated by their own children, forget state funeral.  Pandu died in the forest but instead of cremating him there, Kunti brought his remains to Hastinapur . She came with congregation of politically powerful rishis and brahmanas  and Bhishma was forced by Rishis to give Pandu a state funeral. Not just that. The rishis made a public proclamation of Pandavas being divine born heir of Pandu the king. This is very explicit in the text.


8. Unwilling Bhishma, Kripa and Dhritrashtra were forced to accept Pandavas.


9. Then poisoning happens. A 10 year old Dury cannot cook up this elaborate conspiracy. Shakuni and Karna (who was atleast 20 at the time) may have done it. But it is impossible that Bhishma and Kripa did not know. They knew and ignored it, because they supported Duryodhan. That is why with vidur's advice Kunti keeps quiet, but Yuyutsu is cultivated to be their spy


10.  Then Drona arrives and he takes a fancy to Arjun. As an excellent guru he realises Duryodhan with entire kuru army cannot avenge him but a properly trained Arjun can do it even alone. And he by refusing Karna throws his weight behind Arjun and Pandavas for the oath that Arjun takes to give him whatever gurudakshina he asks for


10. Lakshagriha. Citizens of Varnavrat openly declared that this was Dhritrashtra Dury conspiracy and that Bhishma and Kripa passively supported it. That is why Vidur's advice to lay low and find powerful allies just like Kunti did whEn Pandu died.


11. When Pandavas return this time they have Dwarka Panchal and Chedi by their side. Drona seeing Pandavas with Drupad also switches to kouravas.


12. But here too, Bhishma ensures through partition that Hastinapur stays with them and Pandavas get a barren IP, infested with robbers and  Nagas.


Duryodhan was raised to be the king of Hastinapur by Bhishma and Kripa and supported later by Ashwatthama and Drona.


Karna was with him to initially get back anga that belonged to his adoptive father's adhirath's family that Pandu had taken in his digvijay and later to get back at Kunti. He was aware or made aware at some point that Kunti was his mother. Shakuni and Dussasan were just his henchmen

This actually makes me yearn for a show/movie/ novel that can make Mahabharata ripped off a its divine aspect solely based on all the politics that happened in different sectors of Aryavarth . Aryavarth chronicles is one but I want more of such treat i am greedy ðŸ˜†

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Posted: 3 years ago

The divine interpolations are not able to hide the cut throat politics in the epic, if only someone reads the unabridged version of the epic and avoid plays, tv shows and recitations at satsangs.


When we read the epic, we read the actual dialogues given to charachters and the politics becomes very clear.


For eg. Just read Kunti's dialogue in the epics

1. when she discusses Niyoga with pandu. She is clearly discussing political legitimacy for her children. But TV serials and religious plays/satsangs make it a morality issue.

2.When Bhima returns after poisoning, her dialogue with Vidur, discussing their options.

3.In the potters hut her instructions to Yudhishtir. Her blessing to Draupadi after everyone agrees to polyandry in Drupad's palace

4. Before the war, her dialogue about Karna before she meets him, her instructions for her sons in the message to krishna.


Kunti was politically shrewd kingmaker  but everyone paints Satyavati a political shrew who was actually a mute tool for everyone around. 

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Kunti manages to get Vidur on her side and through him Vidur's father Vyasa. Who was their main support and ally till the very end. 

I dont believe Vidur was involved in Niyoga. 

I think, he may have his anguish at being treated as a glorified servant inspite of being step brother. Kunti may have used his wife who was her relative to get through to him. 


Kunti may have cultivated him as an ally just like Yuyutsu was. Not treated at par with others for being born to a maid. 


Vyasa was pulled in initially for the love of his son and eventually to ensure he has a say in the way things turn out. 


Was it Dwaipayana who composed Jaya or the Jaya that Dwaipayana composed made him Vyasa. 

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My two cent psychoanalysis here... Sorry for the long post.


1. Pandu was born impotent. Just like Dhritrashtra was born blind. But unlike blindness, Pandu could hide it till he had two wives. After which he could not and hence had to cook up the story of curse and abdicate.


2. Dhritrashtra knew very well that only King chooses the next king. And the one bypassed has no rights whatsoever or his sons. He tells the same to Duryodhan before the war. And he had examples of his father's cousins somdatta and devapi's children who never got the throne after Vichitravirya died. Yet Duryodhan till Pandavas reached was under the impression that Throne was his. Why?


3. Because Bhishma, Kripa and Dhritrashtra presumed that impotent Pandu will adopt Duryodhan when he comes of age as his heir. They raise him with that presumption.


4. They made this presumption inspite of Pandu having Yudhishtir through Niyoga. Because they had no intention of accepting Yudhishtir. If they had accepted Yudhishtir as Pandu's son, Dhritrashtra would never fill  Duryodhan's mind with an impossible dream of being a king. No loving father would do that. Tell a child he will get sonethibg he cannot.

I beleive not just blind Dhritrashtra but Bhishma and Kripa initially and Drona after Pandavas forge alliance with Drupad wanted Duryodhan as King. Supported him with his whole heart. They just did not want Yudhishtir.


5. Duryodhan since he was born must have been raised as a future king by Bhishma and Kripa. Karna and Shakuni had no power till Duryodhan actually grew up. Dhritrashtra was blind. 


6. That is why Pandu didnt return as soon as he had children. Because he was not welcome back with them


7.  Sanyasis are not even cremated by their own children, forget state funeral.  Pandu died in the forest but instead of cremating him there, Kunti brought his remains to Hastinapur . She came with congregation of politically powerful rishis and brahmanas  and Bhishma was forced by Rishis to give Pandu a state funeral. Not just that. The rishis made a public proclamation of Pandavas being divine born heir of Pandu the king. This is very explicit in the text.


8. Unwilling Bhishma, Kripa and Dhritrashtra were forced to accept Pandavas.


9. Then poisoning happens. A 10 year old Dury cannot cook up this elaborate conspiracy. Shakuni and Karna (who was atleast 20 at the time) may have done it. But it is impossible that Bhishma and Kripa did not know. They knew and ignored it, because they supported Duryodhan. That is why with vidur's advice Kunti keeps quiet, but Yuyutsu is cultivated to be their spy


10.  Then Drona arrives and he takes a fancy to Arjun. As an excellent guru he realises Duryodhan with entire kuru army cannot avenge him but a properly trained Arjun can do it even alone. And he by refusing Karna throws his weight behind Arjun and Pandavas for the oath that Arjun takes to give him whatever gurudakshina he asks for


10. Lakshagriha. Citizens of Varnavrat openly declared that this was Dhritrashtra Dury conspiracy and that Bhishma and Kripa passively supported it. That is why Vidur's advice to lay low and find powerful allies just like Kunti did whEn Pandu died.


11. When Pandavas return this time they have Dwarka Panchal and Chedi by their side. Drona seeing Pandavas with Drupad also switches to kouravas.


12. But here too, Bhishma ensures through partition that Hastinapur stays with them and Pandavas get a barren IP, infested with robbers and  Nagas.


Duryodhan was raised to be the king of Hastinapur by Bhishma and Kripa and supported later by Ashwatthama and Drona.


Karna was with him to initially get back anga that belonged to his adoptive father's adhirath's family that Pandu had taken in his digvijay and later to get back at Kunti. He was aware or made aware at some point that Kunti was his mother. Shakuni and Dussasan were just his henchmen

I like this analysis and has way too much chance to be true, but I have a few doubts

Pandu hadn't taken Sanyasa, he went only for penance of his supposed crime. He had to return once the  was complete, so why shouldn't he get a state funeral.


If Pandu already got Yudhishtir( which I truly think was from Vidur) and Bheem, then why would Bheeshm or Kripacharya believe that adoption of Duryodhan was even an option for him? Unless they were sure that if at any time Pandu putras try to get into the kingdom, they will be defeated by Bheeshm. 


Plus why didn't Bheeshm like Pandavas as king? Was it because they were born out of Niyog?? They how come did he accept Dhritrashtra Pandu?

Why would Yuyutsu side the Pandavas over his own half brothers? Did they give him some step treatment? Or was that a DasiPutra connect between Yuyutsu and Vidur


Could it be that Bheem was actually cruel at Kauravas and it wasn't a child play. 

It seems highly improbable that Pandavas since childhood got ample spies which even Bheeshm n Kripa couldn't beat. Aside for them getting these kids killed was very easy why didn't they actively participate instead asking a child to do all the planning


I definitely agree on Drona part, Drupad and Pandavas alliance did affect him, but why did others, if they were favouring Duryodhan, agree for Yudhishtir as Yuvraj before Varnavrat, Pandavas didn't have much public support till then


Karna's point I don't understand at all, what exactly was he planning for?? If it was only to get back Anga and Malini, then how would buttering, siding or yes-manning a prince help him. Kings dont go on donating states, and remember he did not get Anga as a vassal state/Kshatrap state but with full autonomy. How did he think they will just donate him his lost kingdom

Aside if he somehow got to know about Kunti, then was he acting as a spy to her? Or else how did his getting to know about lineage make any Change? Why did he spare Yudhishtir's arrest especially since it could have got the win to Duryodhan



Rest I agree to most of it. Things are not as simple as is told to us, but that happens with history

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Pandu hadn't taken Sanyasa, he went only for penance of his supposed crime. He had to return once the  was complete, so why shouldn't he get a state funeral.

Pandu specifically states he was giving up everything to live a life of austerities. He doesnt say I am going to come back. Because when he abdicated at that point it was painfully obvious he was never going to have a child. The only thing he could salvage was his reputation by using the curse as a cover up. AlsO Dhritrashtra was married by then and gandhari pregnant. So he must be reconciled to the fact that Dhrit's son is going to be King. But Gandhari gives birth to Dussala a girl, which is when Pandu decides he still has a chance and pushes Kunti for Niyoga 


If Pandu already got Yudhishtir( which I truly think was from Vidur) and Bheem, then why would Bheeshm or Kripacharya believe that adoption of Duryodhan was even an option for him? Unless they were sure that if at any time Pandu putras try to get into the kingdom, they will be defeated by Bheeshm. Plus why didn't Bheeshm like Pandavas as king? Was it because they were born out of Niyog?? They how come did he accept Dhritrashtra Pandu?.

Dhrit and Pandu still had Satyavati's blood and he was bound by oath to honor it. Vyasa also had an impeccable reputation on account of himself and his father and this happened with his permission. Kunti on the other hand gave birth to children who were only legally satyavati's descendent. Moreover, Pandu didnt bother to ask for his permission, like Satyavati did inspite of being his stepmother. Moreover if it was Vidur who was the father, he was son of maid bypassing Kshatriya to the throne. If it was someother King  doing the niyog, Which I am sure of atleast for Bhim, Arjun nakul and Sahadev, then Bhishma would definetly be upset about it. 

One more thing If Dury had not been born Bhishma may have been reconciled to it. But when Duryodhan was there, born in front of him, raised by him (remember Pandavas came much later) it must be Bhishma who would have held Dury's hands and taught him how to walk. as Dhrit and Gandhari were blind. Plus if he knew of Karna already, Kunti was already blackwashed in his eyes.



Why would Yuyutsu side the Pandavas over his own half brothers? Did they give him some step treatment? Or was that a DasiPutra connect between Yuyutsu and Vidur.

Epic is very clear that Vidur was not treated with respect. When Yudhishtir is exiled, Dhritrashtra insults Vidur and throws him out. Then calls him back most likely after realising he doesnt want a vibhishan made out of him. And Vidur was son of Vyasa. You can assume that treatment of Yuyutsu will be much worse. 


Could it be that Bheem was actually cruel at Kauravas and it wasn't a child play. 

I dont buy Bhima bullying Kouravas. It must be children playing and 100 kouravas trying to bully 5 pandavas but Bhima then beating the shit out of them. Because if those were Bhima's faults he would not go unpunished. Forget Bhisma Dhritrashtra wouldnt allow anyone to bully his son. Shakuni could still see things even if he didnt


It seems highly improbable that Pandavas since childhood got ample spies which even Bheeshm n Kripa couldn't beat. Aside for them getting these kids killed was very easy why didn't they actively participate instead asking a child to do all the planning.


Remember Vidur had always lived in Hastinapur. Kunti did not have to create a spy network. She had to convince Vidur to take her side and he would use his spy network for her. Vidur was the insider for them.


Killing openly was not possible because Kunti came with the backing of confederate of Brahmanas amd Rishis. She was not a nobody either for them to act publicly against them with impunity.

Secondly Bhishma, Kripa and Drona were the type who wouldnt get their hands dirty. Minions like Karna, Shakuni were encouraged precisely for this purpose. They had to maintain an image after all..keep their hands clean

And in any case a sensible person would prefer killing all five in separate incidents over a period of time.

 First was the Bhima one which would have been successful if not for the nagas who happened to be again Kunti's maternal relatives. Then other attempts were also made, they didnt stop with one and apparently each time it was Yuyutsu who warned them in advance


I definitely agree on Drona part, Drupad and Pandavas alliance did affect him, but why did others, if they were favouring Duryodhan, agree for Yudhishtir as Yuvraj before Varnavrat, Pandavas didn't have much public support till then.

Pandavas gained that support slowly till Rangabhoomi. Kunti if she was the politician I am presuming she is. And since she also had Vidur by her side, she would have not kept idle while Pandvas were in gurukul. Creating ground level support amongst citizens and councilmen would be a logical way to go. After Rangabhoomi it is mentioned that Dhritrashtra is forced to coronate Yudhishtir because of citizens.  By the way Harivansh mentions Krishna sending Akrura as emissary to Dhritrashtra from dwarka and after being apriaed by Kunti of the actual situation, he warns Dhrit to treat Pandavas as nephew and give them what is rightfully theirs. 

Also krishna and Satyaki attended Pandavas funeral at Varnavrat after lakshagriha. So i believe by Rangabhoomi, Krishna had already established Dwarka and informed Kouravas that he was supporting Pandavas. Another reason that may have pissed of Kuru elders. 


Karna's point I don't understand at all, what exactly was he planning for?? If it was only to get back Anga and Malini, then how would buttering, siding or yes-manning a prince help him. Kings dont go on donating states, and remember he did not get Anga as a vassal state/Kshatrap state but with full autonomy. How did he think they will just donate him his lost kingdom

Anga was a vassal kingdom of Hastinapur. pandu had made it one. Karna did not get an independent kingdom. Neither did Ashwatthama. In the sense that Karna or Ashwatthama by themselves never had the military might to remain independent, neither did they have a natural birth right to rule. Ashwatthama was son of brahman who had nothing to do with Panchal royal family and Karna was the adopted son of younger brother of current king of Anga.Both of them required a bigger kingdom to acknowledge their right. For eg even today a government gets its legitimacy after UN acknowledges it as legitimate government..And the only way to get it is if atleast one if not more of the 5 security council permanent members support it and remaining dont veto it. Ashwatthama needed Kurus to axknowledge him as king and ensure Drupad doesnt attack them to take uttar panchal back. Similarly Karna needed Duryodhan and jarasandh to grant him the right to rule. 


Aside if he somehow got to know about Kunti, then was he acting as a spy to her? Or else how did his getting to know about lineage make any Change? Why did he spare Yudhishtir's arrest especially since it could have got the win to Duryodhan.

Karna reached HP as an adult. He was atleast 10 years older than dury and pandavas. He already had a divine armor that was definetly not given by adhirath and neither was it hidden from him that he was found floating in the river. His kavach and kundal were from aditi Surya's mother, they were not just for protection. They were identity markers. It would not be difficult for Karna to find out he was son of Surya/suryavanshi king. Howver Surya / king would have told him clearly to FO as he was never really interested in having him as a son. He only impregnated Kunti at her summons. Also Karna did not have any identity marker from Kunti to be able to prove she was his mother. There was no DnA tests then..moreover Kunti was already in the forest with nothing to offer.


Initially he must have sided with Dury seeing odds of him getting the throne was higher. His father was already Dhrit's friend. He must have come to HP to join as courtier/body guard work his way up on the basis of his military skills and eventually convince them to give him anga as a promotion for service done. But Drona came and upset the whole plan for everyone. Not only he made Arjun his protege, he kept Pandavas safe obviously to get his revenge from Drupad.

Karna now started seeing Arjun as the rival. He strarted seeing Arjun getting what he did not get. Specialised training from Drona. Divine weapons Love of the people. Respect. Acknowledgement by Kunti. Victories on his own merit in battlefield. Draupadi. Subhadra and many more.


You can understand Karna's position from this simple fact that while he could defeat all the kings and help Duryodhan abduct princess of Kashi and then princess of Kalinga and he could watch Krishna doing that with Rukmini and Mitravinda etc or Arjun doing it with Draupadi and Subhadra. He did not have the legitimacy to do it for himself. He could only marry the women his father got him. Even Duryodhan did not get him a princess from any of his allies or vassals as a bride. Not even Dussala who was given as a bride to Kshatriya king Jayadrath


And it was  Not because he was adopted by a Suta. This has nothing to do with caste. 


He did not have legitimacy because he was an abandoned premarital child, adopted by the younger brother (who himself did not have any rights) of the king. 

Just like Brahmin Kripa had no natural right to rule or marry a princess inspite of being adopted by Santanu a Kshatriya. 

It must have disturbed him that Pandavas had independent legitimacy, while he was dependent on Dury for it. 

His evil and crooked nature instead of letting him accept that and make peace with it, pushed him over the edge where he took Duryodhan along with him

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^^^^


Not quoting the entire thing, the points you made do actually add up, never thought from this perspective


If this has even an iota of being true, then I guess Duryodhan was just a ploy in the hands of everyone who just wanted to fulfill their wishes


He is just a victim of situation who by sheer bad luck became the biggest villain in history.


I actually apologize to him for whatever ills I always thought of him


But At least Vyas should have supported him, he was Vyasji's biological grand son although no such relation he had with Pandavas (unless Yudhishtir was Vidurji's son)

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Ok i just was making a fun post on Duryodhan in a thread and realized that his life was full of tragedies

Just thought of making a separate thread on it

1) Despite being a royal born prince, he could never become a king although his close friends who according to him were from humble backgrounds became kings

2) Despite being named Duryodhan, he literally lost to nearly everyone whom he confronted. Going by regional retellings and Srimad Bhagwatam He even during the Haran of his wife from Bhanumati Swayamwar, he couldn't do it on his own and needed Karna's help to defeat other kings

3) He went to the forest to insult the Pandavas and got arrested by Gandharvas only to be freed by the same Pandavas

4) None of his Commander in Chiefs actually fought for his victory.

5) His soulmate was obsessed for someone else

6) Everything that he won in the first game of dice was returned by his father without taking even asking for his opinion  (forget taking his approval)

7) All the TV shows make his character commit the sins which actually were committed by his best friend

8) He poisons Bheem out of hatred and he returns all the more healthy


Now to add a few real ones

1) His own uncle demanded for his killing at birth stating that birth was inauspicious, irrespective of how he turned out to be later, no one is a born evil and getting to know about the infanticide suggestions by own uncle would actually unstable the minds of anyone

2) He had to get his daughter married off to her molester (could be a reason why he hated Krishna more)

3) Had to witness the death of his beloved son. Correct me, but I don't think any Pandav had to bear that sorrowful sight, Karna surely had to, but going by his character, I doubt he had any love for him



Please add more


Actually on #1, Duryodhan was the de-facto king of Hastinapur.  There are quite a number of times that he's directly referred to as such, and not just that, during the war, they took extra precautions that he not be killed or captured.  Why would they care if he was just the yuvraj?  Note that nowhere in the MB is there any mention of Dhritarashtra being crowned after Pandu's death.  The real king would have been whoever was yuvraj, which is why it was so hotly contested.  Note that if a kingdom had a real king, the yuvraj was more of a 'deputy-king', rather than the next in line to the throne.  In the Ramayan, that was the case w/ Bharat, who was yuvraj right uptil the end - Rama actually offered him the Ayodhya throne when he was about to retire, but Bharat recommended Kush instead.  After the war, when Yudhisthir was king, Bhima was the yuvraj the entire 36 years: it never went to Parikshit.  When it was time to retire, Parikshit was crowned b'cos Bhima too was among the retirees.  Anyway, bottom line - when Hastinapur was split, Duryodhan became the acting king of Hastinapur.  Only reason he wasn't formally crowned was that his father was still alive: it was also the reason he had to do a Vishmi yagna instead of a Rajasuya yagna.


On #4, the damage done by his commanders was so great that the Pandavas were forced to find ways of killing them by trickery.  How was that his commanders not fighting for his victory?  Reason the Pandavas were not killed was that they could not be: only Karna had made the promise not to kill any of them.


On #5, who was his soulmate, and who was she obsessed over?


On #8, his daughter's marriage to Samba gave him the opening to ask Krishna for support at all.  Think about it: if Subhadra was married to Arjun, why would Krishna owe Duryodhan squat?  Reason was Lakshambha!  Also, speaking of molesting, in those days, if a man merely touched a woman (and by touched, I mean touched, not any headboard shaking activity), she became impure.  Samba grabbed her by the hand, put her on his chariot and drove off, but was intercepted and captured by the Kauravas.  At that point, she could have resumed her swayamvara, but fact was that no prince would now touch her, given that Samba already had.


Besides, given how her mother didn't choose her father but was abducted by him, it was probably a punishment for Duryodhan to see his daughter robbed of her swayamvara


On #9, Arjun had to witness the death of Iravana, Sankha was slain by Drona while he was taking his father away from the latter, Satyaki had to witness all his sons being killed by Bhurishrava, Dhristadyumna had to witness 3 of his sons being killed after his father was, and Bhima had to witness the death of Ghatotkacha.