Pandu hadn't taken Sanyasa, he went only for penance of his supposed crime. He had to return once the was complete, so why shouldn't he get a state funeral.
Pandu specifically states he was giving up everything to live a life of austerities. He doesnt say I am going to come back. Because when he abdicated at that point it was painfully obvious he was never going to have a child. The only thing he could salvage was his reputation by using the curse as a cover up. AlsO Dhritrashtra was married by then and gandhari pregnant. So he must be reconciled to the fact that Dhrit's son is going to be King. But Gandhari gives birth to Dussala a girl, which is when Pandu decides he still has a chance and pushes Kunti for Niyoga
If Pandu already got Yudhishtir( which I truly think was from Vidur) and Bheem, then why would Bheeshm or Kripacharya believe that adoption of Duryodhan was even an option for him? Unless they were sure that if at any time Pandu putras try to get into the kingdom, they will be defeated by Bheeshm. Plus why didn't Bheeshm like Pandavas as king? Was it because they were born out of Niyog?? They how come did he accept Dhritrashtra Pandu?.
Dhrit and Pandu still had Satyavati's blood and he was bound by oath to honor it. Vyasa also had an impeccable reputation on account of himself and his father and this happened with his permission. Kunti on the other hand gave birth to children who were only legally satyavati's descendent. Moreover, Pandu didnt bother to ask for his permission, like Satyavati did inspite of being his stepmother. Moreover if it was Vidur who was the father, he was son of maid bypassing Kshatriya to the throne. If it was someother King doing the niyog, Which I am sure of atleast for Bhim, Arjun nakul and Sahadev, then Bhishma would definetly be upset about it.
One more thing If Dury had not been born Bhishma may have been reconciled to it. But when Duryodhan was there, born in front of him, raised by him (remember Pandavas came much later) it must be Bhishma who would have held Dury's hands and taught him how to walk. as Dhrit and Gandhari were blind. Plus if he knew of Karna already, Kunti was already blackwashed in his eyes.
Why would Yuyutsu side the Pandavas over his own half brothers? Did they give him some step treatment? Or was that a DasiPutra connect between Yuyutsu and Vidur.
Epic is very clear that Vidur was not treated with respect. When Yudhishtir is exiled, Dhritrashtra insults Vidur and throws him out. Then calls him back most likely after realising he doesnt want a vibhishan made out of him. And Vidur was son of Vyasa. You can assume that treatment of Yuyutsu will be much worse.
Could it be that Bheem was actually cruel at Kauravas and it wasn't a child play.
I dont buy Bhima bullying Kouravas. It must be children playing and 100 kouravas trying to bully 5 pandavas but Bhima then beating the shit out of them. Because if those were Bhima's faults he would not go unpunished. Forget Bhisma Dhritrashtra wouldnt allow anyone to bully his son. Shakuni could still see things even if he didnt
It seems highly improbable that Pandavas since childhood got ample spies which even Bheeshm n Kripa couldn't beat. Aside for them getting these kids killed was very easy why didn't they actively participate instead asking a child to do all the planning.
Remember Vidur had always lived in Hastinapur. Kunti did not have to create a spy network. She had to convince Vidur to take her side and he would use his spy network for her. Vidur was the insider for them.
Killing openly was not possible because Kunti came with the backing of confederate of Brahmanas amd Rishis. She was not a nobody either for them to act publicly against them with impunity.
Secondly Bhishma, Kripa and Drona were the type who wouldnt get their hands dirty. Minions like Karna, Shakuni were encouraged precisely for this purpose. They had to maintain an image after all..keep their hands clean
And in any case a sensible person would prefer killing all five in separate incidents over a period of time.
First was the Bhima one which would have been successful if not for the nagas who happened to be again Kunti's maternal relatives. Then other attempts were also made, they didnt stop with one and apparently each time it was Yuyutsu who warned them in advance
I definitely agree on Drona part, Drupad and Pandavas alliance did affect him, but why did others, if they were favouring Duryodhan, agree for Yudhishtir as Yuvraj before Varnavrat, Pandavas didn't have much public support till then.
Pandavas gained that support slowly till Rangabhoomi. Kunti if she was the politician I am presuming she is. And since she also had Vidur by her side, she would have not kept idle while Pandvas were in gurukul. Creating ground level support amongst citizens and councilmen would be a logical way to go. After Rangabhoomi it is mentioned that Dhritrashtra is forced to coronate Yudhishtir because of citizens. By the way Harivansh mentions Krishna sending Akrura as emissary to Dhritrashtra from dwarka and after being apriaed by Kunti of the actual situation, he warns Dhrit to treat Pandavas as nephew and give them what is rightfully theirs.
Also krishna and Satyaki attended Pandavas funeral at Varnavrat after lakshagriha. So i believe by Rangabhoomi, Krishna had already established Dwarka and informed Kouravas that he was supporting Pandavas. Another reason that may have pissed of Kuru elders.
Karna's point I don't understand at all, what exactly was he planning for?? If it was only to get back Anga and Malini, then how would buttering, siding or yes-manning a prince help him. Kings dont go on donating states, and remember he did not get Anga as a vassal state/Kshatrap state but with full autonomy. How did he think they will just donate him his lost kingdom
Anga was a vassal kingdom of Hastinapur. pandu had made it one. Karna did not get an independent kingdom. Neither did Ashwatthama. In the sense that Karna or Ashwatthama by themselves never had the military might to remain independent, neither did they have a natural birth right to rule. Ashwatthama was son of brahman who had nothing to do with Panchal royal family and Karna was the adopted son of younger brother of current king of Anga.Both of them required a bigger kingdom to acknowledge their right. For eg even today a government gets its legitimacy after UN acknowledges it as legitimate government..And the only way to get it is if atleast one if not more of the 5 security council permanent members support it and remaining dont veto it. Ashwatthama needed Kurus to axknowledge him as king and ensure Drupad doesnt attack them to take uttar panchal back. Similarly Karna needed Duryodhan and jarasandh to grant him the right to rule.
Aside if he somehow got to know about Kunti, then was he acting as a spy to her? Or else how did his getting to know about lineage make any Change? Why did he spare Yudhishtir's arrest especially since it could have got the win to Duryodhan.
Karna reached HP as an adult. He was atleast 10 years older than dury and pandavas. He already had a divine armor that was definetly not given by adhirath and neither was it hidden from him that he was found floating in the river. His kavach and kundal were from aditi Surya's mother, they were not just for protection. They were identity markers. It would not be difficult for Karna to find out he was son of Surya/suryavanshi king. Howver Surya / king would have told him clearly to FO as he was never really interested in having him as a son. He only impregnated Kunti at her summons. Also Karna did not have any identity marker from Kunti to be able to prove she was his mother. There was no DnA tests then..moreover Kunti was already in the forest with nothing to offer.
Initially he must have sided with Dury seeing odds of him getting the throne was higher. His father was already Dhrit's friend. He must have come to HP to join as courtier/body guard work his way up on the basis of his military skills and eventually convince them to give him anga as a promotion for service done. But Drona came and upset the whole plan for everyone. Not only he made Arjun his protege, he kept Pandavas safe obviously to get his revenge from Drupad.
Karna now started seeing Arjun as the rival. He strarted seeing Arjun getting what he did not get. Specialised training from Drona. Divine weapons Love of the people. Respect. Acknowledgement by Kunti. Victories on his own merit in battlefield. Draupadi. Subhadra and many more.
You can understand Karna's position from this simple fact that while he could defeat all the kings and help Duryodhan abduct princess of Kashi and then princess of Kalinga and he could watch Krishna doing that with Rukmini and Mitravinda etc or Arjun doing it with Draupadi and Subhadra. He did not have the legitimacy to do it for himself. He could only marry the women his father got him. Even Duryodhan did not get him a princess from any of his allies or vassals as a bride. Not even Dussala who was given as a bride to Kshatriya king Jayadrath
And it was Not because he was adopted by a Suta. This has nothing to do with caste.
He did not have legitimacy because he was an abandoned premarital child, adopted by the younger brother (who himself did not have any rights) of the king.
Just like Brahmin Kripa had no natural right to rule or marry a princess inspite of being adopted by Santanu a Kshatriya.
It must have disturbed him that Pandavas had independent legitimacy, while he was dependent on Dury for it.
His evil and crooked nature instead of letting him accept that and make peace with it, pushed him over the edge where he took Duryodhan along with him
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