Why Shakuni and entire Gandhar family story never told in shows? - Page 2

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

Is it to whitewash Pandavas? They partly told told in Dharmakshetra. Baaki ka I got to know from internet. So in a way Shakuni was not much wrong in whatever he did. Come on, he lost 99 brothers and his father. Tadap tadap ke mare vo sab due to Dhritarashtr, Bheesma and even Yudhishthir(anjaane me). His sister was emotionally tortured by her husband. But him participating in Draupadi humiliation can never be forgiven. 

No Shakuni's revenge is mainly fictitious creation,  his brothers/sisters were not tortured.  Is it shown in BRC too?  He was happy for his sister to be married. His main concern IMO was with everyone turning pro-pandava Dury would lose political power. He simply cared about his side of family that's it. 

If one goes by the original story, Shakuni's role in this serial and every subsequent one that covers him, has been overblown.  As was pointed out in the ⭐️Mahabharat forum some years ago, he was not involved in the poisoning of Bhima, and was actually one of those who advocated that Duryodhan make peace w/ the Pandavas.  All the shows that have him poisoning the mind of Duryodhan against the Pandavas have it wrong: Duryodhan had it all himself, convinced that if he could kill Bhima and Karna could kill Arjun, he'd dethrone the Pandavas by force.

Also, the original Mahabharat texts never had it that Subala or Shakuni wanted Gandhari to marry Pandu rather than Dhritarashtra.

Yes, some versions of Mahabharata tell how Shakuni and his father and brothers were tortured by Bheeshma and he pledged to take revenge. He was not in favour of Gandhari marrying Dhritrashtra. But does it mean he will have the right to perform his scheme to destroy the entire Kuru clan? What about so many blameless people suffering on account of that? 

Again, bitterness and revenge leading to destruction. 

I also think that it would not be very justified to put a stamp on what actually happened or what is fiction. Because really we can't know with 100 percent certainty. To take into account different versions and try to comprehend what they can teach us about life would be the wiser way to learn. 

^ which version?? 

There are two versions of Mahabharata 

1 vedvyas Mahabharata  version  and modern Mahabharata  version 

In vedvyas  Mahabharata version everything was original  and in modern  Mahabharata version  fiction is added along with original  version 

The story of Shakuni and his 99 brothers being killed in that brutal manner with just one one rice grain a day is not from any of the reliable sources neither Ved Vyas Jaya not Vashampayan's Mahabharata highlight or even hints it. In fact had this actually been the case Vashampayan would have mentioned since he was very detailed in his story telling making Mahabharata the longest epic of the world. 

That story is mostly from not so famous folklores. Secondly it doesn't make much sense either, Bheesm had a war with Gandhar, captures the royal family in the brutal way, and finally the releases the last brother left (supposedly at the requested of a dying Subali) and then returns him his kingdom and that too with full autonomy? Not even he keeps Gandhar as a Kshatrap territory? Fine he did that too, but then he allowed Shakuni spending half his life in Hastinapur? Chalo wo bhi maana, he didn't want to separate a brother from his sister the only existing member of his family, but didn't he even keep a keen watch on Shakuni actions? Didn't for once he think that the last existing male member of a family I finished in such brutal way might plan a revenge against me and my clan? He simply continued to give him chances to brainwash his grandchildren? (Duryodhan and his brothers might have been close to Shakuni but they always respected Bheeshm the most. It wasn't difficult for him reduce the influence of Shakuni on them) And 

A foolish person might do it someday but someone as great as Bheesm couldn't have done such huge blunders. 

Ok if we ignore Bheesm for once and come to Shakuni, what exactly was his revenge? Getting the Kuruvansh over? A battle between Kaurav n Pandav would not have achieved that in any way because at least one party would have been the winner and at least one member of the clan (of all 105 brothers would remain alive) so Kuruvansh isn't ending in any case especially since Uttra was pregnant, had the destruction of Kuruvansh been his intention wouldn't she be his target? By the 16th day it was clear on ego would be winning and what result the war would have, why did he then continue with the war, at least he could have simply walked off the war, the man who destroyed his family was on his death bed, the man after marrying whom his sister became miserable is about to lose all his sons, 90+ Kuruvanshis have died, killing Pandavas isn't easy. The maximum he could have attained from the plotting was achieved, but no he continued to be in the war(suddenly he might have felt some love for poor Sahdev who hadn't killed anyone worth mentioning by then so just thought of getting killed by him)

This story is so flawed that it clearly seem an addition just to defame Bheesm and justify the wrongs of Gandhar Naresh

Shakuni's so-called revenge and back story finds no support in the authentic texts. It's a folklore. 

In fact, the authentic text debunks the folklore because Shakuni's brothers fought in the Kurukshetra war. 

"Sakuni also, conversant with a hundred different kinds of illusions, seeing his brothers slain, created illusions for confounding the two Krishnas."

Drona Parva

Section XXVIII

Also, as pointed out, Shakuni's involvement has been awfully overblown by tv serials. 😆

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Also, as pointed out, Shakuni's involvement has been awfully overblown by tv serials. 😆

Totally agree ... 

am sure he was just a frequent visitor and all he did was encourage Duryodhan in his anti Pandav plottings n plannings ..

Those days Saas n bahus lived together in harmony and Mama bhanjas did all plottings n plannings 

BTW Gandhar of that era is same as Kandahar of present days haina ?? 

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

If one goes by the original story, Shakuni's role in this serial and every subsequent one that covers him, has been overblown.  As was pointed out in the ⭐️Mahabharat forum some years ago, he was not involved in the poisoning of Bhima, and was actually one of those who advocated that Duryodhan make peace w/ the Pandavas.  All the shows that have him poisoning the mind of Duryodhan against the Pandavas have it wrong: Duryodhan had it all himself, convinced that if he could kill Bhima and Karna could kill Arjun, he'd dethrone the Pandavas by force.

Also, the original Mahabharat texts never had it that Subala or Shakuni wanted Gandhari to marry Pandu rather than Dhritarashtra.

Tell me .... Gandhar Rajya of that era is same as Kandahar of present days haina ??