Is Naina suffering from amnesia?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hi,
Naina...Topper Naina is probably suffering from amnesia.
I agree my understanding of the characters is from reading the LUs and analytical posts here,but I can not help assuming Naina has amnesia given her cold reaction to her husband's pleas to not abandon him like his mother...

Naina who first said said the truth which resulted in Sameer's rustication and then lied to save Sameer cause she did not want him to be rusticated again? It showed she learnt from her mistakes...
Naina charged him for the paper-stealing incident labelling him a thief infront of all,making him lose even the little bit of attention he ever had from his mother.And after knowing the real culprit she chose to keep the truth hidden.It reflected on her love for her family.
But then she tried her best to befriend Sameer again.In the process,coaxing her best friend to give up on playing the lead in the play and ending up playing the sipahi.She also convinced her teacher to go for a boat-ride on the school trip...She did not pester her Chachaji to allow Preeti for the trip,maybe cause she wanted some lone time with Sameer and probably Preeti would have been an hindrance...So very typical of a teenager in love.
She wove a sweater for Sameer thinking it would assuage some of his pain of not having one from his mother...She took Sameer's words literally and burnt her hands to feel his pain...She could sense his inner pain and yearnings.
She allowed a guy in her room at night going against all societal norms of that era...It showed her courage to stand up to a situation.
Though I still do not accept her line of thought that it was entirely Sameer's fault as the bet was an after-effect of him being labelled a thief cause of Naina and Naina making no efforts to revoke the same even after knowing the truth,yet I started respecting her character when even though heartbroken,she did not accept defeat and decided to go with life as usual and relegating her emotions to the backbenches.Her tantrums at her family were understandable.Though I am yet to understand her anger at Sameer and watching him slog like a slave at her home,but when she accepted Sameer back into her life,it displayed her ability to forgive,forget and accept someone with his flaws.

She could sense him in trouble even when distances apart.She did not understand his anger when he just threw that photo without any explanation and yet she was worried to death about his safety so much so that when he called from Delhi all she could ask was whether he was fine and had reached home.She failed in her exams and topped yet again after a promise given to Sameer.She plotted to send Mundit to Delhi and even tried her hand at dancing, a hitherto unknown territory for her,just to go to Delhi herself.She sensed Sameer's presence back in her city and tried bringing out Sameer from his manhoos phase.She even tried smoking to get Sameer to talk to her.She agreed to the movie date as well as birthday date being fully aware of the consequences if caught.She denied Sameer from accompanying her even though it was almost 11 in the night when they reached her home from the police station.It all showed the depth of her affections.

She broke up with Sameer on Shefali's advice and then agreed to marriage with another guy.It somehow reflected her deep sense of gratitude to her Chachaji for bringing her up like his daughter,but the she was shown as someone easily swayed by other's words unlike the school Naina who believed in her feelings for Sameer.
She pounced upon Sameer the moment Chachaji gave his nod.When Munna's promise became a impediment,she pulled off a jumping-from-roof stunt just to get back Sammer being fully aware that Sameer would definitely come after her.She did not even have a word with her proclaimed best friend before cancelling her nomination and putting in her own candidature.And when Swati tried to have a word with her she was too absorbed in her own world with Sameer.This did display a streak of selfishness in Naina unlike the old Naina for whom it was family and friends first.
She not reciprocating to Sameer's intiation of intimacy was fine given her orthodox upbringing,but then claiming that she had done equally for this relationship when the engagement almost got cancelled seemed odd given in school she knew exactly about her own capabilities.
She being unable to convey to Sameer about the hair fiasco throughout the marriage ceremony resulting in him being angry when it was revealed in front of all,jumping on her marital bed being fully aware that Mami was on her trail like Karamchand jasoos,being angry on Sameer for not supporting her during the hair revelation and questioning him "yehi tha tumhara pyar",being totally ignorant about intimacy even after her Shaadi-ke-baad rant throughout college,not acceeding to even a single damn kiss,suddenly being unable to dress up according to the occasion even though she used to take care of her looks both in school and college,incessant arguments with Sameer in a one-upmanship game,abruptly transforming from a Swacch Bharat volunteer of 90s into a careless snob without any concern for the filth and dirt around and threatening to leave the marital home at the drop of a hat without a second thought as to where would she go cause quite clearly hers was not a family to accept her back at home...Baffling!!! Isn't it?
So all I can think of is probably she is suffering from amnesia...

This is just a simple post to understand current changes in Naina.No intentions of any character bashing.I agree with Meher Di's statement that women are inwardly structured to keep clean homes and nurture families without any outer advice or commands.And I also acknowledge Ashwathy Di's comment that core character traits never wither away given that old habits die hard.Probably Topper Naina thought of marriage to Sameer as a trophy and now that she has got it,all her character traits seem to have slackened.Well freedom is one thing and abusing that freedom is another.Freedom is a power to express oneself freely.Being a topper has she not heard that "With greater power,comes greater responsibility".A relationship of 4 years where she has been the sole witness of all the hardships Sameer has undergone for her and all that he has done for her.I fail to understand the lack of any sort of yearning,desire of longing in Naina for Sameer given the proximity after marriage.That ghar-chodke-ja-rahi-hun wala stunt was the showstopper.But her absolutely cold reaction to Sameer's pleas not to abandon him like his Mom having witnessed his mother leaving him firsthand is totally unlike school Naina who undertsood his unspoken yearnings and went on to weave a sweater without any prior knowledge about it.



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Posted: 6 years ago
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What a lovely post dear...u have summed up what we all have been feeling...nainas character has been butchered to such an extend by the CVS that one can't relate to her anymore...😭
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Thanks Pooja.I was apprehensive of posting this presuming I would be badly bashed...

Hope Meher Di and AswathyDi do read this...They can probably point out if I have made any mistakes in understanding the character of Naina.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Pleaseee DNT remind me of tat suicide stunt...😆 i tried n tried to blacken tat epsde from my head n wenever i see tat clip or convo related to it...my anger shoots up🤣...If anybody wud ask me wat was the worrst thing about ur fav show or any gandi yaad related to it...then tis wud be the one for me...!!!!😆...I cnt forgive ,how VILE Naina cme across tat day . ...smething vich i cnt nver ever thing in my memories of the most adorable 16 yr devouted gal in love wud ever ever do...Emotional.blackmail n schemeful!!! ...She cleverly turned the tables on Samn Munna ,made him apologize n guilty abt it when she was the faulty party...Now if this wasnt enough...the constant bickering,lecturbaazi,I m PERFECT n I CNT GO WRONG has been literally on her tongue since the patchup...as if shes got a boost to her EGO n she could do watever she wanted cos she had a GEM OF A BF then...n then tis continued further again aftr shaadi...The recent Naina is beyond my understanding n i wouldnt want to go in detail for the reasons very well known...I had ranted enough throughout the whole week LU leaving the fridays cos tat was pretty much tolerable...But for the love of the gal,i had penned down 1000 posts on her devoution...i m hugely disappointed cos through her i lived n xperienced the JOURNEY of FALLING IN LUV n it disheartened me to see where did All tat DISSAPEAR...THE GAL who LITERALLY WORSHIPPED HIM LIKE GOD...
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehraan

Pleaseee DNT remind me of tat suicide stunt...😆 i tried n tried to blacken tat epsde from my head n wenever i see tat clip or convo related to it...my anger shoots up🤣...If anybody wud ask me wat was the worrst thing about ur fav show or any gandi yaad related to it...then tis wud be the one for me...!!!!😆...I cnt forgive ,how VILE Naina cme across tat day . ...smething vich i cnt nver ever thing in my memories of the most adorable 16 yr devouted gal in love wud ever ever do...Emotional.blackmail n schemeful!!! ...She cleverly turned the tables on Samn Munna ,made him apologize n guilty abt it when she was the faulty party...Now if this wasnt enough...the constant bickering,lecturbaazi,I m PERFECT n I CNT GO WRONG has been literally on her tongue since the patchup...as if shes got a boost to her EGO n she could do watever she wanted cos she had a GEM OF A BF then...n then tis continued further again aftr shaadi...The recent Naina is beyond my understanding n i wouldnt want to go in detail for the reasons very well known...I had ranted enough throughout the whole week LU leaving the fridays cos tat was pretty much tolerable...But for the love of the gal,i had penned down 1000 posts on her devoution...i m hugely disappointed cos through her i lived n xperienced the JOURNEY of FALLING IN LUV n it disheartened me to see where did All tat DISSAPEAR...THE GAL who LITERALLY WORSHIPPED HIM LIKE GOD...



Your rants were the inspiration behind this post.
I felt bad when she pointed out that just exams are over and the results are not yet out,so he might need the books again..But I was totally baffled when I read that she was leaving her marital home...MARITAL HOME Di a place supposed to be so sacred for a girl of even today and then Naina belonged to the 90s when it was sacrilegious to leave your marital home...And I was dumbfounded to read her absolutely cold reaction to her husband's pleas...
You were absolutely true when you said that we women are inherently careful of keeping our home clean and keeping our family together and happy.So how could she just suddenly start loving filth???
I felt like creating a hotline to Naina's Topper brain to tell her "Jab koi Kohinoor haath lage toh usse sambhalke rakha jata hai"
I am sorry I did not intend to remind about that suicide stunt but while reading I actually for the first time felt that this character was utterly selfish.It was just a sense of gratitude to Chacha-Chachi and societal norms and financial constraints binding her to stay quiet infront of TT and her father.She even did not care for her proclaimed best friend's feelings..ek baar usse pucha bhi nahi...puchna chhodo bola bhi nahi ki tera naam cancel kar dia hai...
Naina se zyada mujhe Sameer ki chinta hai Di.I have made another post for understanding Sameer's state of mind.Do read through
https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5083993.
Bechara Sameer!!! Is all I can say right now...Where is the girl who could sense his pain,his anger,his angst,his irritation,his yearning,his desires,his longing???How can she not trust a person she has claimed to love so deeply for like 4 long years and make him actually beg for a one damn kiss???Thats why i felt she is suffering form amnesia...😭
Edited by RangnRia - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hi RangnRia
I just loved your post and completely agree with you.
It reminded me my own post of Why we feel disconnected to Naina? Which I made after break up track.
Seriously I do miss that PVKM Naina.
I am posting that link here for you do give me your feedback on it.
Are you new member?
Welcome to our YUDKBH family dear!


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehraan

Pleaseee DNT remind me of tat suicide stunt...😆 i tried n tried to blacken tat epsde from my head n wenever i see tat clip or convo related to it...my anger shoots up🤣...If anybody wud ask me wat was the worrst thing about ur fav show or any gandi yaad related to it...then tis wud be the one for me...!!!!😆...I cnt forgive ,how VILE Naina cme across tat day . ...smething vich i cnt nver ever thing in my memories of the most adorable 16 yr devouted gal in love wud ever ever do...Emotional.blackmail n schemeful!!! ...She cleverly turned the tables on Samn Munna ,made him apologize n guilty abt it when she was the faulty party...Now if this wasnt enough...the constant bickering,lecturbaazi,I m PERFECT n I CNT GO WRONG has been literally on her tongue since the patchup...as if shes got a boost to her EGO n she could do watever she wanted cos she had a GEM OF A BF then...n then tis continued further again aftr shaadi...The recent Naina is beyond my understanding n i wouldnt want to go in detail for the reasons very well known...I had ranted enough throughout the whole week LU leaving the fridays cos tat was pretty much tolerable...But for the love of the gal,i had penned down 1000 posts on her devoution...i m hugely disappointed cos through her i lived n xperienced the JOURNEY of FALLING IN LUV n it disheartened me to see where did All tat DISSAPEAR...THE GAL who LITERALLY WORSHIPPED HIM LIKE GOD...


Naina's character is the biggest let down in the show for me. Like the post above, my dissatisfaction started with the suicide stunt. Before that Naina was that girl who successfully reminded of the days of being young and unselfishly falling in love for the first time. Since her faking the suicide, she just reminds me those manipulative girls who know how to tip the situation on their favor at their convenience. I try every day to block that from my memory to see her as that simple innocent girl we all fell in love with in earlier in the show. To a large extent I was successful too but her behaviors shown in recent episodes that taken me back to the same spot.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Wonderful post..
Exactly written what I have always felt about Naina..
As a story I really adore YUDKBH..
But as characters I never really loved Naina's character the way I loved Sameer's..
From day one his character has been given a steady and relatable growth which was not the case with Naina's character.

But I always found her to be selfish even when in school.

My dislike started with keeping quiet about the leaked papers.

And throughout the college tracks and till now what she always and actually did was think for herself even before Sameer..
I would keep Mount Abu track as an exception,

Even there the getting lost in jungle track showed how much she cared only for herself.

Thanks for posting this coz I only read updates these days as I can't relate to this naina and the tracks which are shown.
No girl especially a girl who has come a humble background would keep her house in such a taste.

Haven't we seen her making chai for chachaji and all so many times before.
If the CVs have forgotten then when Sameer was at Agarwal house for redemption there was a scene when Naina was told to make chai for bholuram but he said he will have coffee instead he doesn't drink tea..

Now suddenly bholuram drinks tea and Naina doesn't even know to make tea whereas she effortlessly made up American Chopsuey for her friends some day in the past.

It is the 90's they are showing and especially a Marwari family where I know that girls could make make one time's meal by the time they would start with college..
Maybe not a lavish meal but basic meal for sure. And here she is shown as completing her college. This is too much contrast just to show her naivety.

Is she really so bholi that she doesn't at all know what is the intimacy between a husband and a wife where u can fall for a guy and pursue him through 4 years.
When earlier u knew where to draw the line between a relationship now u don't know what exactly is the line.

Also the suhaagraat night when she was jumping on the bed was not the Naina whom we know.

But of course it is the CVs and not Naina in particular who is at fault..
But we can't help it.

Too much rant I guess.

Edited by sweet_tehs - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehraan

Pleaseee DNT remind me of tat suicide stunt... 😆 i tried n tried to blacken tat epsde from my head n wenever i see tat clip or convo related to it...my anger shoots up🤣...If anybody wud ask me wat was the worrst thing about ur fav show or any gandi yaad related to it...then tis wud be the one for me...!!!!😆...I cnt forgive ,how VILE Naina cme across tat day . ...smething vich i cnt nver ever thing in my memories of the most adorable 16 yr devouted gal in love wud ever ever do...Emotional.blackmail n schemeful!!! ...She cleverly turned the tables on Samn Munna ,made him apologize n guilty abt it when she was the faulty party...Now if this wasnt enough...the constant bickering,lecturbaazi,I m PERFECT n I CNT GO WRONG has been literally on her tongue since the patchup...as if shes got a boost to her EGO n she could do watever she wanted cos she had a GEM OF A BF then...n then tis continued further again aftr shaadi...The recent Naina is beyond my understanding n i wouldnt want to go in detail for the reasons very well known...I had ranted enough throughout the whole week LU leaving the fridays cos tat was pretty much tolerable...But for the love of the gal,i had penned down 1000 posts on her devoution...i m hugely disappointed cos through her i lived n xperienced the JOURNEY of FALLING IN LUV n it disheartened me to see where did All tat DISSAPEAR...THE GAL who LITERALLY WORSHIPPED HIM LIKE GOD...


Hey Meher

Bold - your last line really sums up everything yaar.

It reminded me of first Montage of this show.

No wonder this show has given the most amazing Montages but my all time favourite will be the first one. Naina admiring Sameer and he is oblivious to it.

That love ,adoration and respect she has for him it's so evident in her eyes.

Now whenever I see her on screen I always wonder where is that Naina who fell in love with him at first sight?

I know we will get more montages in future but I will be always hook onto that first one because that's the Naina who made us fall in love with their love story because of her innocence and her undying devotion to him but sadly it's missing now.



Edited by truptishree - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: truptishree

Hi RangnRia

I just loved your post and completely agree with you.
It reminded me my own post of Why we feel disconnected to Naina? Which I made after break up track.
Seriously I do miss that PVKM Naina.
I am posting that link here for you do give me your feedback on it.
Are you new member?
Welcome to our YUDKBH family dear!



Hi Truptishree(Can I call you Trupti?)
I just went through your post.Sorry I can not log in during the day.I am sure you must have had to face some bashing as well for pointing fingers at Naina,the demi-God of this show.I have a few points to add to your post.
1.Whenever Sameer has realised a mistake ,he has sought forgiveness and redemption.Why has Naina never realised her mistake ever?Why is it that she always thinks she is beyond mistakes.
2.I agree Television is a larger-than-life medium and hence to convey an emotion it is shown in a huge scale than reality.But then should a flawed character be put on a pedestal given that the character would be FOLLOWED by millions for aeons to come.Agreed Naina's forcing Swati to give up the lead's role or not forcing Chachaji to allow Preeti on the trip were a lovestruck teenager's behaviour,but then why did she not have the spine to accept atleast to herself that the bet was a aftermath of her own actions which resulted in a poor boy losing whatever affection he could get from his own mother.Agreed,she was heart-broken,any girl would be.But then why a different set of rules for Sameer and Arjun.Choosing family is fine,but then why proclaim yourself a Harishchandra's descendent?
3.Firstly forcing Swati to stand in the elections just cause she was heart-broken and then when Chachaji's nod was available she suddenly pouncing on Sameer,making Munna feeling guilty of trying separate her from Sameer when Munna's only intention was to protect Sameer's poor heart ,not even informing Swati that she had got her name cancelled and now was contesting herself and finally not even listening to Swati when Swati made a call...Really signs of a great friend!!!
4.Proclaiming that Sameer could not date Sunaina cause he never loved her,when she herself was ready to get married to someone else...What was that?What if Sharad would had turned to be a man of any girl's dreams?Would she have backed out ?
5.When will she ever add Sameer to her list of priorities?Its always Chachaji's hadd and Chachaji Samman...What about Sameer?
6.Which girls tells to her would-be MIL that if Sameer would not have relented she would have tried her level best till Sameer had fallen for her?Toppers are always guarded about their replies specially in much important situations..
7.She made a statement to Swati when the votes were missing "Main kabhi nahi haarti".If she is from a middle class family having grown up learning Kabir dohas and Chachaji's gyan-vani,she ,rather anyone,would easily know that exams auur life mein farq hota hai.
8.How could she question Sameer "Yehi tha tumhara pyar" after knowing all that he had done for her.Yaar he had gone against his mother,the only family he had,just only for her.Trust me now that groom-hunting is on for me,after meeting all those Mr.Idiots,Mr frauds,Mr Know-it-alls,Mr Money bags,Mr Momma's boys and Mr nincompoops,all I can say ki agar Sameer ke 50% wala bhi mil jaye toh usse Kohinoor samajh kar sambhalke rakh lena chahiye.And yahan this girl is abusing such a great gift of God to her...infact the best blessing she could have ever received from the Almighty.
9.I do not understand how can a wife be so cold to the man she has claimed to be deeply in love with for past four years.She who could sense his each emotion,now is suddenly immune to his every yearning and desire.And most baffling is she is completely ignorant of intimacy.Then I would love to know her definition of Hadd and Shaadi ke baad...
10.How can she even think of walking out of the house and how can she be so untouched by the pleas of her husband?I am pretty sure after this Sameer will not even try to share anything with her fearing she will abandon him.Without any assurance of togetherness,a heart which has always longed for love will hold on to any semblance of affection tightly.Woh kehte hain na Ek baar jala chhach bhi phook ke pita hai.If she ever realises that he needs her,she will have to put 10 times more efforts to get him talking.
11.Finally ,one question.The male VO always refers to as "Meri Naina".Ever heard the female VO saying "Mera Sameer".If yes,then I rest my case.If no,then I would pray to God that Naina get cured of this amnesia cause Sameer has only ONE FAMILY - His Naina...
Love,Ria.
Edited by RangnRia - 6 years ago

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