In Defence of OmRu (Mod Note pg. 4)

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MayItBe

@MayItBe

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Posted: 6 years ago

Firstly : I don't think any of this would have happened in the RU ( not in a million years ) , but in this AU the brothers bond is not as deep as in the RU .. so lets not mix these two worlds .

Secondly : only Shivaay and Khanna know what really happened , they is the only one knows the truth . (And us the audience)

1. OmRu and Shivaay

"If a person love so deep , he can slide to the dark side with such an extreme"

--- OmRu are totally justified in their hatred towards Shivaay, he is the one who killed their father and broke the family .

remember that they asked him to tell the truth even after their father died in front of them saying that Shivaay had killed him , and Shivaay has admitted the crime .

Shivaay not just killed their father , he killed their father for money and he also admitted that Tej was right about him all along which means that in all the 20's something years OmRu knew Shivaay he was lying, manipulating and deceiving them all the time

So it is quite natural to feel betrayal and hatred towards him .

--- And to all the people saying " blood has become water " ,

for them Shivaay is the one who started all this he lied to them , betrayed their relationship and killed their father etc... so their actions towards him after he came back from prison is because he is the man who killed their father and betrayed their family , not because he ex-convict or that (and why everyone is talking like Shivaay went to prison for stealing ?!!

God ! he went because he killed his own uncle).

the way OmRu behaving with Shivaay is natural , of they will never care of what is happing to him .

you can't forgive the one who killed your father for money and lied to you and manipulate you for years just because he is your brother (and what did you expect them to do ? welcoming him with open arms)

Anything but what they did is unnatural .

--- Why didn't they seek the truth ?

Because the truth is Shivaay has admitted his crime . Then why will they search for anything ?

Even if they had a slight doubt they will push it away because the truth is what Shivaay said . this memory is very painful for them ..

--- How can they forget what Shivaay has done for them and the family ?

Well , Shivaay has admitted that he was lying and manipulating them all the past years so every good and beautiful memory has became so paimful and every thing Shivaay has done had an alternative ulterior motive .

Everything Shivaay has done for the family has done it for himself because all he want was the money and nothinh else , he didn't really care about them .

Shivaay is the one who made this choice he choose their hatred over telling the truth .

Shivaay has done an unnecessary sacrifices .

I can't understand how by doing all of this he is protecting them , this one lie has done a greater damage than the truth , Shivaay has choosc their hatred (this is totally stupid).

He made the wrong choice , it is all his fault and now he is facing the consequences .

I don't know how and why he thought that what he did was for his family benefit ?! , it totally wasn't .

(hats off for Tej as he was successful in manipulating Shivaay and breaking all the family ties)

It is Shivaay fault and he is the one can fix all of this .

OmRu will regret all of this for sure when they will come to know the truth (maybe it will break them too) and will apologise .

Why Shivaay should forgive them ? because it is his fault that they lost 5 years of their life together . I think he should apologies too .

(Shivaay is the one at wrong here , he started all this mess .. why he everyone is behaving like he is punish for something he didn't do ? he made that choice).

2. OmRu and Anika

I don't think they are misbehaving with her .

they stayed together in the same house for 5 years , she is still part of the family .

I think they just ignored her presence

Because she is openly supporting their father's murderer so it is quite natural that they want to be around her much .

(you can't behave normally with someone oprope supporting someone you hate , maybe you will hate him too .. that is the normal reaction)

I think maybe they had fights about Shivaay in the past 5 years , and Anika failed to convince them , and of course they wouldn't believe her it is Shivaay's words against hers , Shivaay has admitted, that is ultimate truth and nothing more .

So they don't interact with her so much , and when she is being vocal about her support for Shivaay of course they will feel hatred towards her too .

3. Gauri and Bhavya in all this

--- With OmRu

I don't know how , why or when they got married to OmRu ?!

But they seem to have a deep relationship with their husbands (I gess they are in love).

--- With Anika

I think they are in a good terms with her , after all they are bahus of the same house and Anika and Gauri are sisters .

I think RiVya are stuck between OmRu and Anika and they can't and wouldn't choose a side , OmRu have their reasons to hate Shivaay and don't want him in their life and Anika has reasons for the opposite .

As RiVya don't know which one is right (for them both are right) they choose the middle ground (I think maybe the 3 of them are trying to get the 3 brothers back together).

Note: I am not sure if any one but me notice this .. in the episode after the leap Shivika was wearing light colors , OmRu was wearing dark colors and RiVya was wearing both dark and light colors .. I think this represents the characters sides .

4 . About Omkara and Gauri

I don't know the circumstances they got married in (I hope they had a love marriage and not for any other reason . a lot can happen in 5 years) but I don't think Anika was against their wedding (as Anika doesn't hate Omkara) and as I said before I don't think Omkara was disrespectful towards Anika or misbehaving with her then Gauri has no reason not to get married to Omkara .

--- Why Gauri is not on the side of her sister ?

Well she is on her side and also on the side of Omkara .

She is on Omkara side and can't goes against him because he is justified in what he is doing and also she can't prove that her sister is right even if she feel that (I think Rikara has alot of fight because of this)

And I think that why she didn't go all gudi on him .

--- Why she is talking to Anika secretly ?

I think because Omkara asked her not to (that is selfish I know , but since when the Oberois weren't selfish ?!!!!) because he doesn't want his wife to mix up with a person support his father's murderer .

And maybe he is trying to protect her as he fear that maybe Anika will betray Gauri the same why Shivaay betrayed them (you know if loves a bad person means you are bad person too).

Lastly : It is all Shivaay fault .

he made the wrong choice , made unnecessary sacrifices , betrayed the people who love him by liying to them (still think it is stupid and unnecessary) destroyed the family , broke all the ties , made them live 5 years in hell , choice hatred and lost 5 years of his life.

And he is the only one who can fix this ...

( I really hope they don't make OmRu all villians , and show some of the their broken side and what they went through in the last 5 years , I don't want it all to be about Shivaay )

The bond ShivOmRu share is the reason why I start watching IB , I love all their scenes and they are my favourite , it took me a lot of time before I start liking the couples .

If they ruined ShivOmRu I will stop watching and I will regret the day I came across it on TV .

I really hope they don't .

I hope this track to be about ShivOmRu all 3 not just Shivaay .

I am on team ShivOmRu ,I want the brothers to be back together .

Shivaay is totally broken, I am glad Anika is with him , he need someone with him after what he went through all by himself .

I have a small complain ... why the people are talking about Shivaay like he is the only victim here , they all are -including him- as a result of his actions.

he is the one who started all of this , it is all his fault .

P.S :

Before somesom attack me, I know that Shivaay is suffering from truma and I am with him totally ..

but I got really annoyed by all OmRu bashing and they need to be defended .

P.SS

This is my POV .

If you disagree with me please lets have a healthy discussion ...

No moking and no bashing ...

if feel like you want to , please don't do it here.

Feel free to share if you want , I am not on social media so I can't share it .

---SHERI---

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Posted: 6 years ago

Even I dont blame Omru.Their hatred is justifiable.But for Priyanka I am little dissapointed because Shivay was not only her brother but actually a father figure.And we saw what all he has done for her.He should have been given a benifit of doubt atleast by her.

Infact I honestly wanted a plot where there are misunderstandings between obros and hence separation and dealing with complexities of relationships.

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Avanthi

@avanthishiv

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Posted: 6 years ago

I totally agree with you on this.

In RU, the relationship between Om and Tej was strained from the beginning, the CV's can't bring this track there but here the relationship between Om and Tej has been a pleasant one from the start. So it is natural for them to support Tej and show hatred towards Shivaay.

I am not saying not to support Shivaay just don't bash Om Ru because both sides are justified by their actions

Shivaay had lived his whole life hating his father and his actions, I think that is the main reason he didn't want OmRu to know about Tej because he knows the pain of it and didn't want his brothers to go through the same, I guess in the heat of the moment he didn't plan it thoroughly leading to many loopholes in it. But what he did, he thought would be best for his family without completely realising the extent of damage it would cause him.

The only person I would want to understand Shivaay or at least be in neutral ground is Priyanka...

I agree with you though because even I had started watching yth show for the brothers, and would wish to see the turmoil of OmRu and how they were coping with the situation in the 5 years and how they reacted to the things that reminded them of Shivaay.

I am also sure they would not have hurt Annika, just behaved with her cordially or formally. They are not bad at heart it's just the situation that made them react in such a way.

Even the hate they are sprouting towards Shivaay, would be hurting them too because according to them only Shivaay had manipulated their love towards him had been true.

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krithi1990

@krithi1990

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Posted: 6 years ago

You have written my thoughts completely. Yours whole points are an acceptable one.

According to Omru , when Shivaay had admitted all the crimes himself they might feel a sense of betrayal.

"It is easier to forgive an enemy than to forgive a friend".

OmRu can show their melodramatic anger towards Sivaay but they should not speak bad words with their present mood. They will have an opportunity to change their opinion , but they will never get opportunity to replace the words they spoke.

I have a confusion. Can any one clarify it to me?.

From Anika and Bavya's statement , Shivaay has been released under the section of 'SELF DEFENCE" . Anika may not well aware of the IPC sections and rules of self defence but Bavya must know very well. How could Shivaay proved himself that his crime was only for self defence without telling the whole truths.. Is there any other chance to prove him clearly that he is an innocent in another way.

And what is the court procedures for a person who were imprisoned for five years who will try to appeal against his judgement after his appealing period over.?. Is that possible?

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MayItBe

@MayItBe

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: SQ.com
Even I dont blame Omru.Their hatred is justifiable.But for Priyanka I am little dissapointed because Shivay was not only her brother but actually a father figure.And we saw what all he has done for her.He should have been given a benifit of doubt atleast by her.
Infact I honestly wanted a plot where there are misunderstandings between obros and hence separation and dealing with complexities of relationships.

When I wrote this post I wasn't sure of where to put Priyanka in all of this , which side she is on ?

But after watching yesterday episode I think she is so hurt by what Shivaay did .. I don't think she hates him as much as OmRu , but she feels betrayed and he abandoned her for 5 years ..

@bold

After I start watching IB I thought the villians will try to break the relationship between the Obros and we will get a track ..

Honestly I wanted one too , but now I just hope that they just don't ruin it .

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MayItBe

@MayItBe

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: avanthishiv
I totally agree with you on this.
In RU, the relationship between Om and Tej was strained from the beginning, the CV's can't bring this track there but here the relationship between Om and Tej has been a pleasant one from the start. So it is natural for them to support Tej and show hatred towards Shivaay.
I am not saying not to support Shivaay just don't bash Om Ru because both sides are justified by their actions

Shivaay had lived his whole life hating his father and his actions, I think that is the main reason he didn't want OmRu to know about Tej because he knows the pain of it and didn't want his brothers to go through the same, I guess in the heat of the moment he didn't plan it thoroughly leading to many loopholes in it. But what he did, he thought would be best for his family without completely realising the extent of damage it would cause him.

The only person I would want to understand Shivaay or at least be in neutral ground is Priyanka...

I agree with you though because even I had started watching yth show for the brothers, and would wish to see the turmoil of OmRu and how they were coping with the situation in the 5 years and how they reacted to the things that reminded them of Shivaay.

I am also sure they would not have hurt Annika, just behaved with her cordially or formally. They are not bad at heart it's just the situation that made them react in such a way.
Even the hate they are sprouting towards Shivaay, would be hurting them too because according to them only Shivaay had manipulated their love towards him had been true.

Yes , this is exactly what I wanted to say ..

This is exactly my thoughts when I wrote this post ..

Thank you

@bold

I really really want to see this ..

I want to know what happened in the last 5 years ..

I hope we get scenes ..

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Sahana

@tranquilmelody

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Posted: 6 years ago

Finally a neutral view without blinkers on. Shivaay did start the mess, if the only reason he hid facts about Tej from his brothers is because that he didn't want them to hate Tej, it is the dumbest possible reason. Are they in their teens or what to be irreparably affected at a vulnerable age by the truth? They are grown ups for Gods sake and they need to face reality and be told the truth. Sure they would be shocked but as time passes they would have handled and become stronger and more mature. This over protective zealousness of Shivaay is not a help. Life throws any situation at you at the blink of an eye, you should face it. You should give your loved ones the support to face reality, hiding reality is doing them injustice.

Another thing that has been bugging me is why Annika stayed in OM after Shivaay went to jail. What was the necessity to stay amidst all the hate, anger and negativity. How could one eat and sleep under the roof were your husband had been disowned and hated by everyone else? Any self respecting woman would have left.

Also why did she insist that Shivaay too come to OM after release. The reason - "your family needs you" is so absurd, what family, what need? According to them he is as good as dead, so there is no Family, and they seem to be taking care of the business and also gotten married, so what need?

The decent thing to have done is to have made a life of their own and lived separately and be happy that your sacrifice has borne fruit, brothers are happy and well settled, what is the need to go in front of them and open the wounds.

There is a FF started yesterday from this pov and so may be there are many others who too feel the same.

Originally posted by: MayItBe
Firstly : I don't think any of this would have happened in the RU ( not in a million years ) , but in this AU the brothers bond is not as deep as in the RU .. so lets not mix these two worlds .

Secondly : only Shivaay and Khanna know what really happened , they is the only one knows the truth . (And us the audience)

1. OmRu and Shivaay
"If a person love so deep , he can slide to the dark side with such an extreme"

--- OmRu are totally justified in their hatred towards Shivaay, he is the one who killed their father and broke the family .
remember that they asked him to tell the truth even after their father died in front of them saying that Shivaay had killed him , and Shivaay has admitted the crime .
Shivaay not just killed their father , he killed their father for money and he also admitted that Tej was right about him all along which means that in all the 20's something years OmRu knew Shivaay he was lying, manipulating and deceiving them all the time
So it is quite natural to feel betrayal and hatred towards him .

--- And to all the people saying " blood has become water " ,
for them Shivaay is the one who started all this he lied to them , betrayed their relationship and killed their father etc... so their actions towards him after he came back from prison is because he is the man who killed their father and betrayed their family , not because he ex-convict or that (and why everyone is talking like Shivaay went to prison for stealing ?!!
God ! he went because he killed his own uncle).
the way OmRu behaving with Shivaay is natural , of they will never care of what is happing to him .
you can't forgive the one who killed your father for money and lied to you and manipulate you for years just because he is your brother (and what did you expect them to do ? welcoming him with open arms)
Anything but what they did is unnatural .

--- Why didn't they seek the truth ?
Because the truth is Shivaay has admitted his crime . Then why will they search for anything ?
Even if they had a slight doubt they will push it away because the truth is what Shivaay said . this memory is very painful for them ..

--- How can they forget what Shivaay has done for them and the family ?
Well , Shivaay has admitted that he was lying and manipulating them all the past years so every good and beautiful memory has became so paimful and every thing Shivaay has done had an alternative ulterior motive .
Everything Shivaay has done for the family has done it for himself because all he want was the money and nothinh else , he didn't really care about them .

Shivaay is the one who made this choice he choose their hatred over telling the truth .
Shivaay has done an unnecessary sacrifices .
I can't understand how by doing all of this he is protecting them , this one lie has done a greater damage than the truth , Shivaay has choosc their hatred (this is totally stupid).
He made the wrong choice , it is all his fault and now he is facing the consequences .
I don't know how and why he thought that what he did was for his family benefit ?! , it totally wasn't .

(hats off for Tej as he was successful in manipulating Shivaay and breaking all the family ties)

It is Shivaay fault and he is the one can fix all of this .

OmRu will regret all of this for sure when they will come to know the truth (maybe it will break them too) and will apologise .
Why Shivaay should forgive them ? because it is his fault that they lost 5 years of their life together . I think he should apologies too .
(Shivaay is the one at wrong here , he started all this mess .. why he everyone is behaving like he is punish for something he didn't do ? he made that choice).

2. OmRu and Anika

I don't think they are misbehaving with her .
they stayed together in the same house for 5 years , she is still part of the family .
I think they just ignored her presence
Because she is openly supporting their father's murderer so it is quite natural that they want to be around her much .
(you can't behave normally with someone oprope supporting someone you hate , maybe you will hate him too .. that is the normal reaction)

I think maybe they had fights about Shivaay in the past 5 years , and Anika failed to convince them , and of course they wouldn't believe her it is Shivaay's words against hers , Shivaay has admitted, that is ultimate truth and nothing more .
So they don't interact with her so much , and when she is being vocal about her support for Shivaay of course they will feel hatred towards her too .

3. Gauri and Bhavya in all this

--- With OmRu
I don't know how , why or when they got married to OmRu ?!
But they seem to have a deep relationship with their husbands (I gess they are in love).

--- With Anika
I think they are in a good terms with her , after all they are bahus of the same house and Anika and Gauri are sisters .
I think RiVya are stuck between OmRu and Anika and they can't and wouldn't choose a side , OmRu have their reasons to hate Shivaay and don't want him in their life and Anika has reasons for the opposite .
As RiVya don't know which one is right (for them both are right) they choose the middle ground (I think maybe the 3 of them are trying to get the 3 brothers back together).

Note: I am not sure if any one but me notice this .. in the episode after the leap Shivika was wearing light colors , OmRu was wearing dark colors and RiVya was wearing both dark and light colors .. I think this represents the characters sides .

4 . About Omkara and Gauri

I don't know the circumstances they got married in (I hope they had a love marriage and not for any other reason . a lot can happen in 5 years) but I don't think Anika was against their wedding (as Anika doesn't hate Omkara) and as I said before I don't think Omkara was disrespectful towards Anika or misbehaving with her then Gauri has no reason not to get married to Omkara .

--- Why Gauri is not on the side of her sister ?
Well she is on her side and also on the side of Omkara .
She is on Omkara side and can't goes against him because he is justified in what he is doing and also she can't prove that her sister is right even if she feel that (I think Rikara has alot of fight because of this)
And I think that why she didn't go all gudi on him .

--- Why she is talking to Anika secretly ?
I think because Omkara asked her not to (that is selfish I know , but since when the Oberois weren't selfish ?!!!!) because he doesn't want his wife to mix up with a person support his father's murderer .
And maybe he is trying to protect her as he fear that maybe Anika will betray Gauri the same why Shivaay betrayed them (you know if loves a bad person means you are bad person too).

Lastly : It is all Shivaay fault .
he made the wrong choice , made unnecessary sacrifices , betrayed the people who love him by liying to them (still think it is stupid and unnecessary) destroyed the family , broke all the ties , made them live 5 years in hell , choice hatred and lost 5 years of his life.
And he is the only one who can fix this ...

( I really hope they don't make OmRu all villians , and show some of the their broken side and what they went through in the last 5 years , I don't want it all to be about Shivaay )

The bond ShivOmRu share is the reason why I start watching IB , I love all their scenes and they are my favourite , it took me a lot of time before I start liking the couples .
If they ruined ShivOmRu I will stop watching and I will regret the day I came across it on TV .
I really hope they don't .
I hope this track to be about ShivOmRu all 3 not just Shivaay .

I am on team ShivOmRu ,I want the brothers to be back together .

Shivaay is totally broken, I am glad Anika is with him , he need someone with him after what he went through all by himself .

I have a small complain ... why the people are talking about Shivaay like he is the only victim here , they all are -including him- as a result of his actions.
he is the one who started all of this , it is all his fault .

P.S :
Before somesom attack me, I know that Shivaay is suffering from truma and I am with him totally ..
but I got really annoyed by all OmRu bashing and they need to be defended .

P.SS
This is my POV .
If you disagree with me please lets have a healthy discussion ...
No moking and no bashing ...
if feel like you want to , please don't do it here.

Feel free to share if you want , I am not on social media so I can't share it .

---SHERI---

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SNOWWHITE83

@SNOWWHITE83

Stunner

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Posted: 6 years ago

Thank god shivay killed tej. Otherwise how would i have enjoyed OmRu rocking especially Ru Even though they are going to regret it.

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Sayali_23

@Sayali_23

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 6 years ago

Well as much as I appreciate u r effort the problem is OmRu r coming across as dumb...

Let's for one sec consider thy trusted Shivaay's confession but once things r cool down... Thy could have easily found out a loop holes in Shivaay's story... Shivaay didn't need to kill Tej to get control over Oberio industries... Also is Shivaay so dumb to kill Tej out in open?

I blame the poor writing & sorry to say this Lee & KJ ke poor acting which is making OmRu coming across as obnoxious & some times cartoonish... Lee fails big time for me...

Even IF Priyanka ka behaviour towards Shivaay is unexpected Siddhi did a better job in conveying Prinkyanka feeling hurt & betrayed because of Shivvays actions... She mostly got to know about Pinky killing Shakti which was hidden from her... Daksh breaking her heart... Her elder bother confessing killing her BadePapa... So her bitterness is still kind of justified thanks to Siddhi ka acting...

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The Learner

@Free_Rein

Rocker

Posted: 6 years ago

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Lmao.All the oberoi empire shares mostly belongs to Shivaay as he developed it and brought from rock bottom to top position.Shivaay was the one who had put 50% of those shares on omru.Then even if he transfers again all those shares on his name,They shouldn't be suspect him and find wrong in it in the first place.

According to Tej statements all over the last week,Omru doesnt go to office and Tej share was very less.So Tej's entire statement of Shivaay killed him for money comes across as ridiculous and if omru believe that now they are not just dumb,but also look like gold diggers so that They can enjoy whole property and shares earned by Shivaay sending him to jail.So this is what i can make out of their behaviour if you ask me correctly.But i was giving them benefit of doubt and putting all the blame on the lame writing.But if the people start defending omru's actions which comes across as dumb and ridiculous,i wont think a second before calling a spade a spade now.

People never supported Shivaay's actions and calling him dumb even they are their favourite characters,but why can't you accept and ignoring the point that how can omru think its a planned murder??

I posted this so many times about it,i want an answer please.

1)Shivaay shot Tej in the centre of OM hall and was sitting with Tej's head in his lap??Why??

2)Why didn't he kill Tej and buried somewhere and didn't make all the evidence against him disappear??

Why didn't omru consider above 1) and 2) before considering it and calling it a PLANNED MURDER??

Two things i could make out of this:

a))Either They are dumbheaded and their mind don't think sensibly to consider the glaring proofs of above 1) and 2) infront of their eyes .

b)or they want to enjoy all the property in the name of Sending Shivaay to jail

Choose what you want in above options.

They should have thought/acted in 2 ways:

al)Trying to find what exactly happened digging into the matter doing some investigation

b)They should prove their point with proofs that Shivaay had done a planned murder before accusing and calling him planned murderer and they should give answer why they are not considering the glaring proofs of 1) and 2)

Please give answers to my questions and prove your point in the defense of omru.

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