Understanding the Cv's and TRP game

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Posted: 7 years ago
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To be honest i do analyse here that the CVs could do this and that. Why Trp is low?., I do get critical at times this and that.
I do that just to outlet some thoughts or the critic inside me propels to do so.


The Triangle Films , Creative supervision, Writing Team

But back in mind i know that the CVs are more worried than what we can imagine. Have personally witnessed scenario in past how PH get frantic when TRPs are low. Meetings after meetings in channel offices behind closed doors to overcome the situation.

Making a show is a good investment. Not just finance but one puts their brand at stake.If the show doesn't work, actors will get another show but will find it difficult to bag a lead project so easily. Everyone is replaceable. Other Channel will think hundred times before commissioning Triangle films seeing their last record.
Not just competition is between actors, but there is competition among Production Houses also. Like whose show will get selected and get a good time slot.Triangle is also competing with other production houses to stay relevant in the market.

So the CVs of kaleerein also want their show to run long innings.
Why wouldn't they want to impress the viewers?
They know the tricks of the game more than we do.

The tracks they are playing now about saas and her -saazish, Lost mother and all, Conspiracies.
Just check the top 5-6 shows. Shakti on colors had always evil plot by saas in the first 12 months and more,Plus more villains and conspiracies,,double than that of kaleerein.
Kumkum bhagya and Kundali Bhagya are the TRP toppers and Toppers when it comes to villains and conspiracies. Ishq Subhan Allah has double the conspiracies of soutan track and all.More will come ahead.
So when such saas conspiracy drama is working effectively in other shows and surprisingly in the same channel Zee why Kaleerein is not getting the TRP by applying the same formula?

If we say that these do not fit the show, its baseless thing to say because unless a show is finite, no show can claim to have a particular line of thought. That is why every week story is changed as per the ratings.Neither was kaleerein designed for a niche audience.Had it been so it would have been a web show or for a channel like discovery jeet. Zee has no place to experiment for niche audience.Its air time is very costly to do such experiments. Zee is a commercial Hindi entertainment channel which looks for popular culture catering to vast population.

Its because sometimes somethings dont work. Hazaar koshis karo.

We can say thousand things,,aisa hona chahiye tha, waise hona chahiye tha, iss ko kyun laaya gaya and this and that

They know better than us . They would never want their show to register low ratings.
It has to do with rival channels programming too.

About TRPs

Just having a TV set at home doesnt mean my viewing is being calculated by BARC team for TRPs. Only those 20,000 reporting homes selected by BARC will monitor their TV viewership on the basis of which we get these TRPs every week.
Now those 20,000 homes in India may have all kinds of people. TRP audience doesnt mean only Housewife/women or even a youth watching MTV, star sports whose viewership is being recorded too. Its diverse. Not all 20,000 homes tune into Hindi channels from 7pm onwards.

Suppose a locality with 5 homes which are among those 20,000 homes selected for TRP Monitoring. In home 1 the Tv may be dominated by a husband who watches News most time and the housewife watches selected shows. Her selected show may not be kaleerein
In home 2, the TV viewer may be balanced..or may have a girl who watches Tv shows in mobile while her mother sees it on TV.
In home 3 may be a college girl who didnt watch kaleerein or skipped an episode. And that certainly doesnt mean the other homes under TRP meter has not watched kaleerein like her or have skipped it.
Its not a same pattern always. India is such diverse nation
Many homes of the 20,000 sample size have watched kaleerein Vishkanya Maha epsiode which did well .While many of those homes under sample size skipped it.

All TRPs houses may have different data to tell.

Five of my close friends in pune are in those 20,000 sample homes. They are young .
At 7:30 their parents watch marathi serial while three of them watch kaleerein in mobile or sometimes see the repeat at TV at 11:30 pm . Remaining two neither watch kaleerein in Tv or in mobile.
So those two people who never watched kaleerein cant be blamed for not watching a track or disliking a track.They were never the audience who watched kaleerein.

So this percentage of people tuning into 7:30 pm to watch Kaleerein is very very less .
It has nothing to do with tracks and all

Even if Kaleerein gets the best tracks much bigger jump cant be expected.
The 0.9 to 1.2 ratings are the regular audience who keep fluctuating
may be because their other family members have other programme to watch say watching elections news coverage or something else.

Kaleerein is most probably liked by young women who largely may not be among the 20,000 sample houses under BARC sample.
There may be another locality where all people have watched kaleerein but their viwership is not recorded as they dont fall under those 20,000 sample homes.


TRPs are Low because

1. Most of the homes(not all homes) with TRP monitoring have the traditional audience hooked to TV sets at evening and primetime who decide the TRP game most. In those homes Kaleerein at 7:30 is not their choice because they didnt watch this show from its start only.

2. Keep aside the loyal TRP audience of kaleerein which is around 0.9-1.2
The others TRP audience have not liked Aditi and Arjit. The lead actors are the face of the show, most have not connected with the pair.
I love them, we all love them but it doesnt mean all people , the TRP audience love them similar to other pairs of TV industry.I have no qualms in saying they dont have that wider appeal especially aditi. Had the show been promoted at 9pm,10pm slot it would have been different story.

3. The challenge is to gain new viewers which is not happening as most are hooked to rival channels from the start.

4. All the tracks being now used are tried and tested in Tv industry.The channel and PH has asked the CV to do those formulae as they have shown good results earlier.But the problem is that it has not clicked till now as many people dont watch this show even if you put the best tracks on air.


All the 9pm star plus shows have failed since Kumkum Bhagya took over.People are not ready to switch channel from zee to sp. Same people not ready to leave shakti at 8pm on colors for sp shows.
Sometimes there is no reason , one has to just wait and watch with patience if new viewers can be gained or not.
Duaa karo yeh show kaamyaab ho jaaye
After hardwork ,sometimes Nothing is bigger than luck or destiny at times or else all would have become stars and succesful. Kaleerein is doing hard work, they need our prayers too.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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In short
For makers CV writers actors it is their bread butter. Sometimes they don't like it but they have to do it. Many people specially working people can understand that don't like our work but we have to do it and have make boss happy otherwise job will be gone and so bread butter and in TRP industry boss is viewers TRP audience naah I won't say TRP aunties because many young people also watch such kind of show either girl or boy
After working in industry makers wrietrs and actors don't get attach to show and character unlike online audience

Ganda hain par dhandha hain yeh

For TRP viewers show is nothing but entertainment they do get attach to show. They want entertainment if they won't get it they switch the channel

Main hoon don

For online audience some are TRP audience too for them this show is nothing but baby for them and they care way too much and invest their time and give suggestions and all and at the end get disappointed because main boss is TRP audience and later come online audience

Dil ke Armaan aasuo main beh Gaye

This is story about bread butter, entertainment and baby 😆


Now a days makers are trying to make both audience happy and make khichdi in show and same things are happening with kaleerien dono haath main laddu chahiye inko

If this things doesn't work than new formula lead are dating rumours will spread by PR.

I don't have much idea but above all things are experienced by me with past show that's why I learned not to get attach with show.

Many good show are ruin with TRP race.
TRP is not equal to quality but kya kare paisa bolta hain


So this is business for them and emotional attachment to viewers
They do business on viewers attachment

This is what I experienced till my TV show journey


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nice post
I dont know about about tv but just know that this is most watched show of zee on youtube after isa kkb
Hope they gain new viewers
Its a good show
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Posted: 7 years ago
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wonderfully explained!!
Its true there r many things that are not in our hands!!
Somehow I have felt, this team requires more appreciation than they are getting!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Actually main problem has been from beginning that sp,colors,star bharat already have grabbed trp viewers by their shows. There is one type of trp viewers nothing can push them away from a particular show if they once start to watch it religiously.kkb,yrkkhlh trp viewers are in this category's viewers. Until these shows won't be forcefully ended no channel has might to get attention from these type of trp viewers. I've still remembered that saath niva had 2.7 rate when it faced it's forcefully termination. N this show was never suffered by trp viewers whatever bogus there was showed always trp aunties watched it with raw tea n toast. We can't actually deny that kalerin has a competitor like yhm which has strong religious viewers who are so much blind about this show that they can't leave it if tsunami goes around them.lol
Moreover,the present trp of kalerin is genuinely unfair figure for this show n main casts. Yes this is one kind of show like old wine in New bottle nonetheless the presentation of main leads is definitely praised worthy.
But yes luck is something on that nobody can impose power.
Anyway I whole heartedly wish yhm's time change will bring a very gud luck for kalerin.:-)
Very nice penned down dear.Have got to clarify many matters from your post which were superficial to me.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thankyou ehsaas, sheen, anjani, nabila and others for constructive feedback and views
After writing such a lengthy post,didnt had energy to write more😆

ehsaas you r correct its their bread n butter for which they have to do more than we can imagine

Sheen its ok not to know much about Tv.Its addictive and spoils our daily life to an extent.good that u r away from its off screen, on screen topics.

Anjani , you have been a true fan of this show and you know how much people in Kaleerein forum make sure that it reaches to more n more people. Yes the appreciation is less, But again lets see what destiny has stored for them.

nabila,you have understood the correct psychology of Indian tv viewers very well. Fully agree with your whole comment especially when you gave the correct example sof YRKKH, SNS.
Even if tsunami comes nothing can destroy their loyalty.
Last year Kundali bhagya which has new people was launched and nobody could believe it could click so automatically that it became No.1 I would give credit to hardwork and EK and her astrological dates on which she launches the show.
Last year another popular sequel was launched which was criticised and dusted like a rubbish is thrown in dustbin, Anything is possible





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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hmmm Suman.
Is it just that shows that appeal more to online viewer's don't particularly fair well in the trp race?

Whenever I've followed a show I've always been interested in watching the creatives weave out their story. Because it's their concept, they'r the one's who put the cast together and selected the leads - seen the potential in them that we are now 'obsessing' over!😆 I don't find it pleasant to even 'constructively' criticise makers considering they have more at stake than the audience.
Also it's a BUSINESS at the end of the day.

But.

Kaaliren seems to be on another level!

I hvnt watched many shows as I have an incredibly short attention span. So my experience is very selective. The only thing I can say about this show is that whatever is put together at the scheduled time slot doesn't make sense anymore.

The shows that are trp toppers - irrespective of their tracks are atleast consistent with parallel tracks, support cast, characteristics and screen time for everyone with no hindrance to their main story progressing. Kaaliren doesn't seem to utilise this. There is a mad rush to cover the main plots at the speed of lighting. Emotional scenes, character growth don't seem to factor.
I don't know about early days on this show, I only watched a day or two before the mehendi scene.
As an online viewer who got attracted to the show seeing the leads - the story is crucial in maintaining my interest AND they DO have a good story - but what is with the execution?
I haven't hesitated to leave my favourite shows easily when story started to go haywire.
They have good actors, seasoned cast, it has typical Saas bahu element, I accept that luck plays a crucial part (as with everything in life) yet, I'm not saying they can please EVERYONE at the same time - that we know is not possible - bt it's just incomplete somewhere at some level.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Ya sofna,
But again it's all about getting numbers every week and in the process they might ignore what is being left out as u said something is a miss.
I don't know if there can be a middlepath between traditional viewers, or the hatke content lovers and what the cvs desire.

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