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One day you'll meet Someone,
who doesn't care about your past because they want to be with You in your future.


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As its always said life is not about dwelling in past but looking ahead for brighter future...uptil now, Kabir may have lived with his baggage of past...but sharing it with Ananya he can really hope for a brighter future ahead ...boy, how happy & relaxed he looked when he returned 😊😊😊 as of now, only obstacle seems to be Mrs. Kashyap...my fingers crossed, & i am being Sakaratmak hope she gets manaofied soon 😛😆😆

But given his current relaxed frame of mind & with Ananya being there for him...Kabir can really look forward to love & understanding coming in his life & giving him reasons to smile...😊😊

Whatever happened in past cannot be changed, deep down he will always have guilt inside him, for whatever mistakes he did...but he will surely can be happy about of having a partner in life who is ready to accept him with all his flaws & mistakes. 😊😊 & promising him to being there for him in times ahead.


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I always knew the episodes of Kabir's past revelation wud be a complete emotionally difficult episodes to watch... was expecting it to be a emotional affair...but never expected it wud be literally difficult to watch it without being left teary eyed...
deep down your heart really goes out to him...So, a tightest HUG from fangirl too...

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Before going deeper into the episode, first things first...CVs deserve a praise & applause,👏👏👏⭐️ not only for conceptualizing a character like Kabir, keeping him very much human, & not turning him into an ideal hero...as a character like any other human being he has his own flaws, his moment of weakness...just because he is a fictional character he is not projected as an ideal guy or a saint...

Most importantly making him a man enough, to accept his mistakes & weakness...& that made him more heroic specially him being truly honest with Ananya, even if it meant of acceptance of "one night stand"... He could have easily let off mentioning it, infact he cud have easily hidden it from Shreya too & now, at present too he cud have conveniently put on complete blame on Shreya for failure of marriage...but his honesty happen to be strength of his character...& I think that has been the main reason why Ananya supports him & stands by him inspite of all his past revelation.


One bigger applause & a bow down for the actor Rajeev khandelwal for bringing out complete devastation, the weariness..."main andar hi andar toot raha tha" ...the feeling of self guilt, frustration..."gusse, kadvahat ka koi outlet nahi mil raha tha" ....As an actor made the whole revelation sequence too emotional...the way dialogues were delivered was just heart touching...& boy, the moment of a lone tear running down the cheek...😭
for that matter even Kritika as Ananya too, the shock, surprise...feeling of Kabir's pain...she brought it out well.

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A special mention for CVs for literally nailing it...they did a commendable job in dealing with Kabir's past...& what I have said all along, that I wud have been disappointed if CVs would have made Kabir Shreya's past only one sided, be it putting whole blame on Kabir or whole blame on Shreya...as relationships never break because of one person...Only one cannot be at fault...😊😊
I am glad CVs made both of them equally responsible, though the ratio who is more wrong is upto a person's discretion...😊😊 its for us as individuals to decide who made a bigger mistake... for me it wud more of Shreya than Kabir, not just as a fangirl but also as person too...I think if we go on comparing who went more wrong, no doubts both made their own share of mistakes...😊😊

If Shreya did a mistake to push Kabir to the edge, she was being responsible for his distressed & depressed state of mind...Kabir also did a mistake, by giving Shreya that opportunity to hurt him everytime...the first moment Kabir realized Shreya was not right partner for him...he should have simply backed off from the relationship there & then instead of just dragging off the relationship & allowing Shreya to break him down emotionally & mentally at every given chance...

Being a woman myself, technically I should be like Mrs. Kashyap & go on in full support of Shreya, afterall her husband cheated on her...Kabir broke the sanctity of institution of marriage & no matter how much he justifies himself of being weak, not in right frame of mind...but nothing can make us ignore that he had been wrong ...& any woman in place of Shreya wud do the same...when she comes to know husband committing adultery...but everything said & done, for some strange reason I cannot end up connecting with Shreya, or feel her pain of her husband cheating on her... Its not I am supporting infidelity, as I think its biggest wrong a partner can do, & no amount of justification is sufficient a man cheating a woman or vice versa...as more than anything relationship demands utmost faithfulness ...

But keeping the whole story in mind & logically if we see in broader perspective & state of mind Kabir was, the situations which led their marriage on the rocks, can't blame him if Kabir went for one night stand & made Kabir look for solace & comfort outside marriage be it physically or emotionally...& the most important fact, If what Kabir got to know from her friend "yeh sab Shreya ne sirf ek shart ke liye kiya tha" ...if that is true, which can only be true if Shreya is kind of a person who will just give in so much time of her life, just for a "bet"...& get married to a person who is no match to her in social status...but if its really true, then I don't think Shreya deserves any kind of sympathy...because she has no justification for her acts, if she wanted to have revenge from Kabir for what he did with her company she should done it on professional level...but not hurting Kabir as a person, coz nothing gets more hurtful & painful for a individual than hurting a person emotionally & mentally...the scars which will remain with Kabir life long, no matter how much he moves on with life, moves ahead with Ananya...in future, if a moment comes where Ananya suffers pain because of Kabir & he comes to know about, it will not take a fraction of second for Kabir to dwell into self guilt & self pity...the moment he comes to know Mrs. Kashyap not accepting the relationship...I wont be surprised if Kabir backs off from relationship..irrespective how much he loves Ananya...he wud never like to see a daughter drifting apart just because of him.

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For once, even if we take into consideration Shreya's version of past too...& give her a benefit of doubt that she genuinely loved Kabir, still it doesn't changes the difference both Kabir & Shreya have in their approach of their failed marriage, their failed relationship & their painful past, the past that comes as a baggage for Kabir, which he will carry off throughout his life...as for Shreya, she doesn't have any regret for whatever she has done as for her its Kabir had been at fault all along & at no stage, she feels she has been wrong...she has been a perfect partner & will be same in future too...
No doubts Kabir, can always be blamed for having relationship with Tarini ...but that doesn't make Shreya's actions right...for making a media spectacle out of it...whatever it was, whatever difference they had b/w them it was two of them to handle...there was no need of creating a scandal out of it 😊😊
If Shreya wanted to revenge from Kabir for whatever Kabir did with her company it was a professional thing, he didn't had any personal enmity towards Shreya...but what Shreya did was a personal grudge, a personal revenge...for her revenge, she destroyed a person's individuality, hurted him emotionally, mentally...& if she wanted revenge for Kabir, committing adultery, then too she should have simply asked for divorce... why to wash dirty linen in public...for her one action, she destroyed three lives...
Even now, at present she doing same thing...when she is seeing Kabir happy & moving on his life... she is being unfair...of making Kabir look like a womanizer in eyes of Mrs. Kashyap...
As a character Shreya, doing her job well...back then she had been able to create mess in Kabir's life & now too...the conviction she has in her words & actions...for once she can make anyone believe in her...if there hasn't been a simultaneous narration of past, I think we as audience wud have supported Shreya more on her version of past...

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Ananya darling, hats off to her, I don't think, what she had done how many of girls would be able to do...to be there & support your partner after knowing him having a failed marriage & accepting his flaws, his mistake of breaking sanctity of marriage...& still staying with him & standing up with him, for him as his strength & support...must say, Kabir is lucky to find a partner like Ananya...she really comes as a blessing in a life of a person like Kabir, who all these years have suffered so much...she came in his life when he was least expecting it...The trust & faith, her belief she showed in him & giving him a hope of a bright future ahead of him...really shows the strength of her character, as I already said, what she is doing ...I don't think its easy for every girl to do...

I guess, as a characters Kabir Ananya come in a different league, as its always hero's who are stronger & heroines are damsels in distress...but here it's the other way round...female character comes as more stronger emotional support for male character...its she who acts as a emotional anchor & support for hero, for the world being a man, he might be more stronger...but his real strength comes from support of his partner...
Felt for her, how her mother dealt with her...poor girl in a fix two choose b/w BF & mother...but she wants both of them...

The rain sequence, & hug no doubts it's a fangirl delight, but more than romantic...I guess it was more of a symbolic of rain washing away all apprehensions, fears, of Kabir if he had any about Ananya misunderstanding him or not supporting him...It was rain washing away his past baggage...& having someone being there to share it with him...& giving a positive hope for future to be happy in life as Ananya said... "hume mila first chance hai zindagi ko celebrate karne ka"

A special mention for Tarini too, in whole this mess, she ended up being up most effected...even though when she wasn't supposed to be...but glad she had been a true friend & support for Kabir all these years...the kind of rapport & comfort relation these two share, have never imagined they wud have gone for a one night stand...I think I would love to hear Tarini's version of the story too...as to me personally Kabir confessing of "one night stand" really came as a surprise...

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As for Mrs. Kashyap, can really understand from where she coming from, as a mother she has full right to stop her daughter from being in relationship with Kabir, the version of past she has heard, & her being a mother I am not surprised with her strong reaction...though making her decision right at doorstep...thoda melodramatic hogaya aunty ji... 😆😆😆
Can only hope with time she will see the happiness of daughter, & will give a chance & enough time to Kabir to convince her as a mother & assure her...that he wont be repeating his past mistakes as life made him learn lessons the hard way...& he will be a good husband for her daughter...

Good luck to daughter ...hope she is able to convince Mrs. Kashyap asap 😊😊coz i really doubt if Ananya will be able to hide the fact from Kabir for long 😊😊

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Every saint has a Past,& Every sinner has a future.
- Oscar Wilde

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Episode 92
August 24,2015

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Jemimah90 thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Loved it ... as always... will anita agree ? how? your take behind tarini mystery? and JSP with context...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Purnima - may I say that your post is one of the best things which I have read till now post the episode...
You have given an unbiased analysis of Kabir''s past and the events which have taken place.
Thank You
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good post.

Shreya finished her mission successfully. Anita fell into her trap effortlessly. anita didn't noticed contradict statements in Shreya's narration. Shreya has so much pain and hate for Kabir. after that she says she still loves him. then says Kabir still meets Tarini. she assures Kabir won't do the same to ananya. Anita is another typical indian emotional mother, easily came to conclusion Kabir is bad and Shreya is not at all fault.

Anita is not going get convinced even if Kabir shares his side of truth. comparing with adultery cheating and insulting is nothing.

ananya's happiness short lived as her mother placed a tough question in front of her. ananya will chose her mother but will not marry anyone. being a typical indian mother, Anita will place another choice marry someone or i'll die. i'm fed up with this mother's threatening theory.

Kabir all happy and sharing with Tarini didn't sense pain in Ananya's voice. understanding his happiness, Ananya too hide her pain and her mother's statement.

Kabir is not going to get upset hearing Ananya's decision of discontinuing their relationship. but will it easy for ananya to convey that Kabir? surely not. she won't do that. she will hide for sometime.

Later when she refuses his proposal of marriage he will get hurt without knowing her mother's decision.

Tough time ahead for Ananya as she has to face so many around her with blind trust.

thanks for pictures. this pictures forced me to watch his expression while telling his statement again and I got few tips of hope in my mind.

I never accept ONS as mistake. It is sin. Kabir did feel guilty for mistake but he told with bold heart. he had uncontrollable tears in his eyes when he was talking about Tarini name has been toned by media. as a result of it she lost her job, career and dignity.

as soon as he mentioned his mistake he said Shreya waited for opportunity asked divorce. he didn't feel guilty for giving divorce to Shreya.

CVs cleverly placed a dialogue ' broke the respect of marriage'. is that really always means having sexual relationship with another girl? I don't think so. even staying in a unmarried woman home for a night (without any sexual intimacy) also means breaking the respect of marriage. he also mentioned Tarini got a ugly name for that. He had the habit of going to Tarini's house whenever he gets insulted by Shreya. He went on that day too. she advised him to return to his home. but he refused. so she allowed him to stay at home for a night.

Society always gives illegal relationship status to this. Shreya did the same. used this opportunity for her own benefit.

to support this theory we have evidence. During Dr. Sinha case, Kabir doubted that girl instead of Doctor. when Ananya took her father case, he shut her up saying it is different. in doctor case, girl tore her dress and claimed doctor misbehaving with her. outsiders seeing her state believed her words and doubted doctor. media and society organisations took that to other level spoiling his name. same must have happened. seeing Kabir coming out of Tarini house and seen him always there, society supported Shreya's version of story.

Any girl who had intimate relationship with a guy will not be able to move normally with him again. it is easy to say they forgot and living as friends. It is easy in teleshows. but not in reality. If ONS was true Kabir surely would have married Tarini after his divorce. he didn't do that. or they might have moved away from each other. she won't be jumping up and down for Kabir getting another girl as friend. he won't be dreaming of ananya forgetting Tarini's state. Kabir is shown as a person respecting others emotions. not all men in this world just into sexual intimacy with other woman because of his failed marriage. I absolutely disagree with people saying men in their lost sense do mistake. it is teleshow theory. no girl will yield to friends closer touch. again it is teleshow theory that girls will give up in some slower sensual touch.

if ONS happened and they says still they are friends, then I'll surely call their friendship relationship as false.

they stayed as friends because nothing happened between them and they doesn't want to prove Shreya's accusation as true.

Shreya said Kabir still in touch with Tarini but won't do the same for Ananya. is it not sounding very tricky? Shreya is sure nothing happened between Tarini and Kabir. When Shreya threw pictures of Ananya and Kabir on desk, Shreya expected some reaction of hiding his relationship with Ananya. but he acted opposite. that is why she made the next move of making Ananya as her friend.

Till now Cvs never made any mistake. they had reason for everything. Kabir already cleared to Ananya that his relation with Tarini is just the way senior and junior. He also told her Anurag is Tarini's brother.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is the first time iam commenting on your post purnima though I read all of them,but I just loved this I was just telling my friend the significance of rain and you wrote the same on your post...
Loved your take on the episode.
Every single word 👏
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Originally posted by: yawfeh

Loved it ... as always... will anita agree ? how? your take behind tarini mystery? and JSP with context...



Thanx for liking & leaving a comment 😃😃

As for Anita agreeing...if i see practically, & try put myself in her shoes, I wud say a big NO, she will not agree...infact, no mother wud agree...but it being a fictional show & considering it nearing its end, so by end of Anita sooner or later Anita will give in...may be not very soon, unless Ananya emotionally blackmails her 😆😆😆😆

Tarini mystery, as of now, she hasn't given negative vibes but definitely she is too good to be true, but i wud like to see her character staying positive till end...& yes, as i said in post too, I wud like to see her version of past too, what exactly made him still stick to Kabir, her feelings for Kabir...what actually made her give in that night...& inspite of everything happened what dats one factor still making him stay with Kabir, & holding an important place in his life.

As for JSP it seemed relevant for all of them

For Kabir--Deep down he was apprehensive because of his past Ananya might give a relationship a second thot ...that was his thought back in his mind but as he lives present with him & seeing here there for him as his support thats the actual fact "yarthat" for him.

For Ananya --uptil now, she had heard lot of things about Kabir, at one point she even beleived everything that was said about Kabir & his past, somwhere down the line for once she too might have blamed him for broken marriage...but after knowing him & in present being with him...her "yarthat" is different what she have perceived of him...


For Mrs. Kashyap-- she just hearing Shreya's version build up her perception, her "bhram" about Kabir as a person, whereas she conviniently ignored how he came up to her to get her consent, & promised her about taking care of Ananya...
Without knowing Kabir as a person she just formed her perception & decided he is not a right person.

For Shreya--she seemed to still living under impression "bhram" that it wud be as easy to break Kabir this time round too, like it had been in the past...but the actual fact, the present Kabir, is different he had been...its not gonna be easy for Shreya...she is yet to know the present Kabir..
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Thanks purnima... Please keep writing. waise i am your fan already since i never missed any of your posts and always do comment on it. once this reporters is over i will be missing you a lot... between if you dont mind can i give u a friend request in fb? if yes , pl send you fb name
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaks0211

Purnima - may I say that your post is one of the best things which I have read till now post the episode...

You have given an unbiased analysis of Kabir''s past and the events which have taken place.
Thank You




awww, thanks for liking 😊😊 & dropping in to leave a comment 😃😃
😆 & for a fangirl, no comment brings as much relief than "being unbiased" 😆😆😆... coz I personally feel ...I always end up being biased 😛😆😆😆
Thanks once again 😳😳😳

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Originally posted by: rrinky17

good post.

Shreya finished her mission successfully. Anita fell into her trap effortlessly. anita didn't noticed contradict statements in Shreya's narration. Shreya has so much pain and hate for Kabir. after that she says she still loves him. then says Kabir still meets Tarini. she assures Kabir won't do the same to ananya. Anita is another typical indian emotional mother, easily came to conclusion Kabir is bad and Shreya is not at all fault.

Anita is not going get convinced even if Kabir shares his side of truth. comparing with adultery cheating and insulting is nothing.

ananya's happiness short lived as her mother placed a tough question in front of her. ananya will chose her mother but will not marry anyone. being a typical indian mother, Anita will place another choice marry someone or i'll die. i'm fed up with this mother's threatening theory.

Kabir all happy and sharing with Tarini didn't sense pain in Ananya's voice. understanding his happiness, Ananya too hide her pain and her mother's statement.

Kabir is not going to get upset hearing Ananya's decision of discontinuing their relationship. but will it easy for ananya to convey that Kabir? surely not. she won't do that. she will hide for sometime.

Later when she refuses his proposal of marriage he will get hurt without knowing her mother's decision.

Tough time ahead for Ananya as she has to face so many around her with blind trust.

thanks for pictures. this pictures forced me to watch his expression while telling his statement again and I got few tips of hope in my mind.

I never accept ONS as mistake. It is sin. Kabir did feel guilty for mistake but he told with bold heart. he had uncontrollable tears in his eyes when he was talking about Tarini name has been toned by media. as a result of it she lost her job, career and dignity.

as soon as he mentioned his mistake he said Shreya waited for opportunity asked divorce. he didn't feel guilty for giving divorce to Shreya.

CVs cleverly placed a dialogue ' broke the respect of marriage'. is that really always means having sexual relationship with another girl? I don't think so. even staying in a unmarried woman home for a night (without any sexual intimacy) also means breaking the respect of marriage. he also mentioned Tarini got a ugly name for that. He had the habit of going to Tarini's house whenever he gets insulted by Shreya. He went on that day too. she advised him to return to his home. but he refused. so she allowed him to stay at home for a night.

Society always gives illegal relationship status to this. Shreya did the same. used this opportunity for her own benefit.

to support this theory we have evidence. During Dr. Sinha case, Kabir doubted that girl instead of Doctor. when Ananya took her father case, he shut her up saying it is different. in doctor case, girl tore her dress and claimed doctor misbehaving with her. outsiders seeing her state believed her words and doubted doctor. media and society organisations took that to other level spoiling his name. same must have happened. seeing Kabir coming out of Tarini house and seen him always there, society supported Shreya's version of story.

Any girl who had intimate relationship with a guy will not be able to move normally with him again. it is easy to say they forgot and living as friends. It is easy in teleshows. but not in reality. If ONS was true Kabir surely would have married Tarini after his divorce. he didn't do that. or they might have moved away from each other. she won't be jumping up and down for Kabir getting another girl as friend. he won't be dreaming of ananya forgetting Tarini's state. Kabir is shown as a person respecting others emotions. not all men in this world just into sexual intimacy with other woman because of his failed marriage. I absolutely disagree with people saying men in their lost sense do mistake. it is teleshow theory. no girl will yield to friends closer touch. again it is teleshow theory that girls will give up in some slower sensual touch.

if ONS happened and they says still they are friends, then I'll surely call their friendship relationship as false.

they stayed as friends because nothing happened between them and they doesn't want to prove Shreya's accusation as true.

Shreya said Kabir still in touch with Tarini but won't do the same for Ananya. is it not sounding very tricky? Shreya is sure nothing happened between Tarini and Kabir. When Shreya threw pictures of Ananya and Kabir on desk, Shreya expected some reaction of hiding his relationship with Ananya. but he acted opposite. that is why she made the next move of making Ananya as her friend.

Till now Cvs never made any mistake. they had reason for everything. Kabir already cleared to Ananya that his relation with Tarini is just the way senior and junior. He also told her Anurag is Tarini's brother.



Thanx for liking & dropping in to leave a detailed comment like always 😃😃 its a pleasure to read your point of view & your take on the episode 😃😃
& completely agree, Anita wont be a easy person to convinced, she might give in to accept the relationship under pressure or thinking about her daugther's happiness, but I dont think she will ever accept Kabir wholeheartedly...& I dont blame her as she being a mother will always have that lingering doubt in her head throughout her life...
As for mrs. kashyap she turned out as smart as I thought her to be...had expected her to be more analytical & critical of Shreya...but she seamlessly fell for Shreya's version...

Indeed, Kabir wont mind discontinuing relationship, but he will surely not accept for continuing relationship by creating rift b/w a mother & daughter...

In relationship, cheating on your partner can never be justified be it physical or emotional...no matter whatever the reasons are ... dats why I said, what Ananya did, not every girl can do...its not easy for a girl to accept a man who is accepting that once he had broken the respect of marriage...

As for Tarini, I keeping all options open for her as a character...her being negative, or she having feelings for Kabir or anything...at the moment she is open character, CVs can shape her character in any angle...
But I really doubt if they actually got physically intimate, considering the comfort & rapport they share...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalini.malik72

This is the first time iam commenting on your post purnima though I read all of them,but I just loved this I was just telling my friend the significance of rain and you wrote the same on your post...

Loved your take on the episode.
Every single word 👏



thanku so much... 😃😃 & dropping in to leave a comment
its really feels good to see certain posts make silent readers break their silence 😃😃

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