Sushpective Chat Club: Thread #3 - Page 37

Originally posted by: -Bhavi

@ Jay I don't think the topic is about parenting🤔 Its a general discussion on the schools so you can add your own observations/expertise comment.

and I agree to your point about leadership qualities, however i believe that in life the aim should always be high. If you aim for leaders, you can get a follower but if you aim for follower there are no chance to get a leader out of that individual

Originally posted by: jay_bpm

Schools, so I am guessing it's abt colleges/higher education institutions. It surely does make an impact for your first job and even contacts you will establish ! There are still many companies who will only hire from few selected institutions and they have been leader in their industry ! Some companies are more flexible than others and yes you can make good living without going to Ivy Leagues but still at some places restrictions will come.

As for aiming for leader or follower I would say raise kids to have self respect, confidence and sense of responsibility ! Being leader and follower at times can simply be about what situation you are in at that moment.

Originally posted by: -Bhavi

@ bold - This all depends on what you want to do. At the end of the day even good ranked university does not have 100% employment rate for the students.

Originally posted by: -Bhavi

I will speak from my observations only and will take this to broader perspective too. I believe that the overall development of the student is more beneficial for getting into premier institutions rather then the name of the highschool that student goes in to. I have attended few seminars for the university admissions from different universities and the morale of all was:

1. The students must have the minimum percentage requirements for admission.
2. His/Her Essay for admission has to be impeccable.
3. They should be prepared for the interviews.

We have different programs here - IB, AP, TLC and so on... If my child is having difficulty getting marks in regular program I will never force him/her for higher program as that will not qualify them for the first criteria. Unless you are planning to send your kids to European countries the above programs does nothing to kids other than stress them up if they are below average student. To me average student is the student having grade 85% or more in the regular program.

For the essay part; the student require to outline their achievements which is not just academics but overall. Here they can outline their achievements in sports, cultural activities, volunteer work and work experience if any along with all the medals etc they won. So if i admit my kid to ivy and if he/she does not have time to be an all rounder what good it is? All the outgoing things the student do also help the student to prepare for the interview skills which many students lack.

Few of my friends have kept their kids in private schools and then they found out that it was too much work for the parents as well with their never ending projects and extra work at school. Now when the parents are both professional its extremely difficult for them to cope up with this added responsibility and think about those who are travelling a lot?

Both me and my hubby have done university in India in one of the oldest universities but is not the elite institution. Its not just us; its the most of the people we know around here does not come from elite institution however we all are in the highest paid bracket here working for the most prestigious MN, well recognized industry leader companies. I am not telling this to brag out but just to put my point forward.

Saying that depending what you want to do also is the big thing. If you want to be an Engineer or Doctor or even start your business does it matter where you come from? But if you want to be a Executive of the MN companies may be then premier institution may come handy.

For my daughter this is what we have thought : Undergraduate has to be as close to home as possible and graduate level she can go for any university in world of her choice- be it ranked or otherwise.

Elite institution may have chances of getting the person in to good places initially but at the end its the individual and his/her capability that will achieve them success and more important is the definition of success for individual that gives them what they get. Most of us beat the locals from the best universities.

In Canada we have people forcing kids to go in for KUMON, UCMAS etc for extra help in math which i am totally against aswell. I would rather have my kids go for extra curricular then spent unnecessary time in all those. But again it depends upon families and kids themselves.

ON THE LIGHTER NOTE:
The amount of money i read here if i have to spend it for junior high and high school; then i would rather let kids enjoy their life and just invest that money for their future and yet they will be having good life😛

Originally posted by: jay_bpm

You bring Swamiji in conversation so of course I have to barge in 😛

I agree with Swamiji's words and actually one of my fav professor believed same so every class I took with him he said I am not here to teach you guys, just helping you learn !

I sure won't say to parent on how to raise kids but one matter I don't agree with is they have to be a leader ! Well not everyone can be leader, there needs to be follower and also in order to lead properly one needs to know how to follow !

Or perhaps you may want to say teach leadership qualities and provide with them values that when needed they can take charge !

Best of all is teaching kids to take responsibility/accountability. Will stop before someone shows eyes 😆

Originally posted by: Madhuz

Elite institution may have chances of getting the person in to good places initially but at the end its the individual and his/her capability that will achieve them success and more important is the definition of success for individual that gives them what they get. Most of us beat the locals from the best universities.

In Canada we have people forcing kids to go in for KUMON, UCMAS etc for extra help in math which i am totally against aswell. I would rather have my kids go for extra curricular then spent unnecessary time in all those. But again it depends upon families and kids themselves.

The amount of money i read here if i have to spend it for schooling then i would rather let kids enjoy their life and just invest that money for their future and yet they will be having good life😆

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Apologies if I spoke ill of anyone's school. I know I lot of Indians who went to brown. The SAT prep tutoring I was taking also had a lot of Indians going to brown. But I have heard from people that work in education, illumine, professors/teachers unions, and other association that its basically come back in four years to pick up your degree. And the other Ivies laugh at it.

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Seriously? I only one person from Brown ...and she is not Indian...she sehe seems to be very good...😃

Yes...there are classes amongst the elite too...

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Good as in Intelligent? successful? seem to be well educated? Its not just from the other elite schools many claim the curriculum is not that difficult? That being said it is still very selective. Most people that I know who got in were quite intelligent to begin with. One Indian girl a few years ahead of me in grade school got in on a full scholarship. She always got straight As. Her poor brother who was in my class tried hard to match up to her. After elementary school she also went to Marianapolis prep school if in CT if that is where you are planning on sending your kids. But she got in on full scholarship to the prep school as well. The other was a boy from my SAT prep who got great SATs.