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After yesterday's epi,I searched about tulsidasji's married life to clear my confusion.Honestly I don't believe on cv's much🥱 but it seems true😆 have a look

1.Tulsidas was extremely attached to his beautiful wife Ratnavali, who was a very intelligent and pious lady. He loved his wife and could never stand even a moment's separation from her. One day, he went out leaving his wife at home. When he returned he did not find his wife, she had gone to her father's place with her brother who visited them in the absence of Tulsi Das. This made him very sad and he was unable to bear the separation. He at once set out for his father-in-law's house. He walked a long distance in the dark through wind and rain, just to be with her. On the way he found that river Yamuna was swollen but he jumped into it. He mistakenly took a dead body for a log to cross the river. After successfully crossing it, he reached his father-law's home. It was late at night so all the doors were closed. Ratnavali's room was on the upper floor, he had to climb a rope in order to reach her room. Taking a serpent to be a thick rope, he slipped into his wife's room. Tulsidas told his wife that he had to walk a long distance and climb a rope to see her, expecting his wife to be delighted to see him. Instead, Ratnavali was shocked. She lighted a diya ( earthen lamp) to see the rope through which Tulsidas climbed and reached her room and was aghast to see a huge serpent hanging down instead of a rope. Shocked and embarrassed she told him that the "log" he caught hold of in the river was actually a dead body, and the "rope" he climbed onto her balcony was actually a huge serpent! Ratnavali scorned Tulsidas and implored him to focus his love not on her but on Rama. Tulsidas realized that in his mad love for his wife, he had indeed forsaken Lord Rama. He renounced family life and traveled all across north India, preaching the story of Sri Rama's life.

The story of Ratnavali is not only important for causing the consequent emergence of Tulsidas' Ramayana, but also for her remarks. This type of retort is not typical of Indian wives, at least not in the 16th century, from when this story has been recorded.

https://pr3rna.wordpress.com/2009/12/05/what-tulsidas-should-be-remembered-for/

2.Marriage and Renunciation

Tulsidas married a girl whose name was Ratnavali. We are told that the simple couple lived at Rajapur and that their only son, Tarak, died in infancy. Tulsidas was extremely devoted to his wife. This attachment may have been an inchoate form of bhakti"wrongly directed towards a human being"for it was this love, when freed from human attachment, that blossomed into an unbounded love for God. Once, qhwn his wife had started for her paternal home, an infatuated Tulsi rushed behind her at night, across the Yamuna. Upon reaching her, Tulsi was chided by his wife thus:

Hada mamsa-maya deha mam, taso jaisi priti;

Vaisi jo sri-ram-mein, hot na bhav bhiti.[5]

Had you for Sri Ram as much love as you have for my body of flesh and bones, you would have overcome the fear of existence.

An apparently simple and innocuous expression of annoyance brought about a conversion in Tulsidas's mind, which must have already been pure, well disposed, and awaiting the proper hint. Such inner volte-face is not an uncommon phenomenon; innumerable instances have been recorded in the lives of saints of all religions. Tulsidas renounced his house and wife and became a peripatetic monk. He travelled the length and breadth of India, visiting, as he went, the four dhamas and other holy places. Countless souls have been blessed and inspired by his peerless words, and many were raised to sublime heights of spirituality during these peregrinations.

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Goswami_Tulsidas

I know both sources are similar to what cv's shown but I found this too-

3.Never got Married


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These words of Tulsidas Ji clearly affirm the fact that He never married. He was an ascetic right from childhood and did not marry ever in His life. The popular belief that He married a woman named Ratnavali is nothing more than a myth. In Hanumaan Baahuka too, Goswamiji affirms He's been an ascetic since childhood


- -(here are some hindi lines from dohas,don't know why they are not appearing in post😕)


http://jagadgururambhadracharya.org/biography_of_tulsidas.php

P.S. I have shared what I found,from diff sources,links are also shared below each

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Dhanu after reading the first section I was like that maybe CVs got the scriptwriters and researchers some food that got their brain working 🤣🤣 so they showed something correct but the latter part also confuses me because I thought that when one becomes/decides to become an ascetic they renounce all worldy things and relations so to see TD married was a bit new to me😕

But the manner they are creating parallels between TD and Pratap one thing is for sure- TD loved his wife enough to cross all barriers to reach her whereas Pratap did that when he was young- he crossed all barriers to marry Ajabde but then totally forgot her and neglected his duties towards her - separation, fight, Baijilal appearance and know he wants to collect Bhiksha
TD's wife was a guiding light whereas Ajabde is the dimming light still burning waiting for her husband to get free form his deewaanas and premis and other stuff🤣🤣🤣

what do you think???
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks Dhanu for taking the trouble to post it up for us. Very kind of you.

I cannot but help remember couple of other similar incidents from great Saints lives, happy to share with you as a return treat :)

1. A devotee of Sri Ramanuja:
He was mesmerized by his wife's beauty, that he will follow her as a daas everywhere. And he willhold an umbrella for her too while following her. Sri Ramanuja who had come to visit the town had been watching this scene for few days. We know that great souls are very compassionate. So taking pity on this fellow, he decided to do uddaar (uplift) him. So one day he asked this guy why he is doing this daily and pay came the reply that he is intoxicated by his lady's beauty, which is incomparable and that he has no shame in doing this. Then Sri Ramanuja asked him if he would chabge his opinion if he could show him a more beautiful person. This guy agreed, primarily as a challenge to prove that none in the world can be more beautiful than his wife.
Sri Ramanuja then took him to Sri Rangam Temple (Trichy, Tamil Nadu). Upon seeing the beautiful reclining Lord Vishnu in the temple, he was so mesmerised and overwhelmed and exclaimed that this indeed is beauty and how I have wasted my time behind a woman thinking she is the most beautiful on earth. He fell prostrate at the saint's feet and asked him to accept him as his disciple. Later his wife also, became the Lord's and the saint's devotee.
While in the case of Tulsidasji also the transformation was instant, it was more due to the frucitification of his poorva janma Punya or as an avatars purusha, it is easily understandable. But in the case of this devotee, yes his Punya karma also has a role, but even if otherwise, the transformation was primarily due to Guru's Krupa. When the Guru (true Knower) decides to grace one, nothing can stop him, even God. So in my view, it is the grace and compassion of him to uplift this poor soul, that brought about this change in him.

2. Pattinattaar:
A great saint and devotee of Lord Shiva. He was a very wealthy merchant who owned many ships. But miserly if my memory serves me right. (It is said that Lord Kubera was born on earth as him due to a curse.) He had a son who was sent on business once. The boy would return with many sacks of paddy husk. The father will be mad at him and beat him up. Pattinattaar would then throw away all the husk, only to see gold there instead. He will then think that his son was smart to secure all the gold in a such a way and bring it back home. The proud father will come to see his son in great joy, only to find that he has left home. His wife would hand over a small box to him, saying that their son asked it to be handed over to his father before he left. Pattinattar would open the box and see a small palm leaf and a needle without the eyelet. He will read from the palm leaf "even a needle without an eyelet is not going to go with you in your final journey (at the time of death)". Pattinattar's eyes will open up immediately to an instant transformation. He would renounce everything that minute to become a great saint (and getting the name Pattinattaar) and a devotee of Shivji. The son was none other than Lord Siva Himself.

Hope you liked these stories :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: twilightlover29

Dhanu after reading the first section I was like that maybe CVs got the scriptwriters and researchers some food that got their brain working🤣🤣 so they showed something correct but the latter part also confuses me because I thought that when one becomes/decides to become an ascetic they renounce all worldy things and relations so to see TD married was a bit new to me😕

But the manner they are creating parallels between TD and Pratap one thing is for sure- TD loved his wife enough to cross all barriers to reach her whereas Pratap did that when he was young- he crossed all barriers to marry Ajabde but then totally forgot her and neglected his duties towards her - separation, fight, Baijilal appearance and know he wants to collect Bhiksha
TD's wife was a guiding light whereas Ajabde is the dimming light still burning waiting for her husband to get free form his deewaanas and premis and other stuff🤣🤣🤣

what do you think???


Hi Garima, here's my take on this.

This Pratap taking sanyaas seem an over-do. In the first place, am not sure if history supports - but does it matter anyway? Secondly, I do not see him showing such inclination for sanyaas. As I see, he is drawn to Tulsidasji, period. It's an exaggeration, I suppose to view it in the other said way. One can be a great Bhakti, a true disciple and still be a king. I think Pratap also clearly conveyed to Ajabde that he will never leave her. These are love on different planes and can coexist. Ajabde suspecting Pratap is not to my liking, she has been portrayed with so much maturity and this behavior is surprising, yet not surprising as a NR!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: twilightlover29

Dhanu after reading the first section I was like that maybe CVs got the scriptwriters and researchers some food that got their brain working 🤣🤣 so they showed something correct but the latter part also confuses me because I thought that when one becomes/decides to become an ascetic they renounce all worldy things and relations so to see TD married was a bit new to me😕

But the manner they are creating parallels between TD and Pratap one thing is for sure- TD loved his wife enough to cross all barriers to reach her whereas Pratap did that when he was young- he crossed all barriers to marry Ajabde but then totally forgot her and neglected his duties towards her - separation, fight, Baijilal appearance and know he wants to collect Bhiksha
TD's wife was a guiding light whereas Ajabde is the dimming light still burning waiting for her husband to get free form his deewaanas and premis and other stuff🤣🤣🤣

what do you think???

@bold,same thing confused me while watching episode,as first he took diksha,after some yrs got married, after some time he again went to earlier life😲 that's why i searched😆
well for a change I'm gonna give sensible ans😛 pratap is all confused soul in current track,as left palace and his beloved family so now he don't have any motive or goal of life so he is just searching for stability or way of future life,we have to wait to know that he really wants to leave his wife too or what exactly he is gonna do about dikhsa😆
enough with sensible talk😆 I think not pratap but ajab should take diksha and let free pratap for all his deewane🤣 as pratap aur uske deewane toh sudharne se rahe😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kaana

Thanks Dhanu for taking the trouble to post it up for us. Very kind of you.

I cannot but help remember couple of other similar incidents from great Saints lives, happy to share with you as a return treat :)

1. A devotee of Sri Ramanuja:
He was mesmerized by his wife's beauty, that he will follow her as a daas everywhere. And he willhold an umbrella for her too while following her. Sri Ramanuja who had come to visit the town had been watching this scene for few days. We know that great souls are very compassionate. So taking pity on this fellow, he decided to do uddaar (uplift) him. So one day he asked this guy why he is doing this daily and pay came the reply that he is intoxicated by his lady's beauty, which is incomparable and that he has no shame in doing this. Then Sri Ramanuja asked him if he would chabge his opinion if he could show him a more beautiful person. This guy agreed, primarily as a challenge to prove that none in the world can be more beautiful than his wife.
Sri Ramanuja then took him to Sri Rangam Temple (Trichy, Tamil Nadu). Upon seeing the beautiful reclining Lord Vishnu in the temple, he was so mesmerised and overwhelmed and exclaimed that this indeed is beauty and how I have wasted my time behind a woman thinking she is the most beautiful on earth. He fell prostrate at the saint's feet and asked him to accept him as his disciple. Later his wife also, became the Lord's and the saint's devotee.
While in the case of Tulsidasji also the transformation was instant, it was more due to the frucitification of his poorva janma Punya or as an avatars purusha, it is easily understandable. But in the case of this devotee, yes his Punya karma also has a role, but even if otherwise, the transformation was primarily due to Guru's Krupa. When the Guru (true Knower) decides to grace one, nothing can stop him, even God. So in my view, it is the grace and compassion of him to uplift this poor soul, that brought about this change in him.

2. Pattinattaar:
A great saint and devotee of Lord Shiva. He was a very wealthy merchant who owned many ships. But miserly if my memory serves me right. (It is said that Lord Kubera was born on earth as him due to a curse.) He had a son who was sent on business once. The boy would return with many sacks of paddy husk. The father will be mad at him and beat him up. Pattinattaar would then throw away all the husk, only to see gold there instead. He will then think that his son was smart to secure all the gold in a such a way and bring it back home. The proud father will come to see his son in great joy, only to find that he has left home. His wife would hand over a small box to him, saying that their son asked it to be handed over to his father before he left. Pattinattar would open the box and see a small palm leaf and a needle without the eyelet. He will read from the palm leaf "even a needle without an eyelet is not going to go with you in your final journey (at the time of death)". Pattinattar's eyes will open up immediately to an instant transformation. He would renounce everything that minute to become a great saint (and getting the name Pattinattaar) and a devotee of Shivji. The son was none other than Lord Siva Himself.

Hope you liked these stories :)

You'r welcome😊 yup anything for you all😊
Thanks for sharing these stories,all are really nice😃 I specially liked first story⭐️

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Posted: 10 years ago
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You'r welcome😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Dhanno--- thank you for this thread ! 🤗
@Kaana--- thank you so much for those wonderful stories ! 🤗


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rinall

@Dhanno--- thank you for this thread ! 🤗

@Kaana--- thank you so much for those wonderful stories ! 🤗


You and all are always welcome🤗🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rinall

@Dhanno--- thank you for this thread !🤗

@Kaana--- thank you so much for those wonderful stories !🤗



Absolutely my pleasure. Glad Dhanu and you liked them. We should thank Dhanu for her wonderful thread.

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