As a filmmaker, you are pretty much at a stage where you can pick up the phone and call up just any actor and ask them to work in your film. But you don't do that right? Why do you choose to work with non-stars more often than not?
Ugly' has been such a delight to make because of the freedom that it got me. Actually, I did not give the script to any actor. Nobody knew what he or she was doing (in the context of the whole film). Actors also have a tendency of getting into a role, and playing it. With co producers Darr, I shared the idea, but did not give the script to them either. Everyone saw the film for the first time at Cannes film festival. I said, let me make this film. I am making it at the lowest possible cost, so let me make this film my way & I take responsibility for it.
And that helped the film so much! That's not possible with stars sometimes. This sort of work only comes from newcomers, who are hungry. They want to give their best shot, and they work on the basis of trust .A lot of people worked on the Wasseypur' movies on trust. I had not even written the ending, and yet they came on board, and went along with it. I work a lot on trust. As I have not let anyone down so far, they (actors) continue to trust me.
In fact, Ranbir (Kapoor) works on the basis of trust. He works with Imtiaz Ali or Anurag Basu, knowing that he can let himself go with the flow. He is one of the rare stars who works that way. Shah Rukh Khan works that way. Shah Rukh just likes an idea, and if he likes you, he will go ahead and do the film, as you want him to. So there are stars that do that. But not every film can afford that. Ugly' can't have stars. It will not have the right atmosphere. The audience will not accept their star at such a stripped down, realistic level.
And I need to make these films, they are my oxygen, I need my oxygen. Ugly is yoga to me (smiles). After doing yoga, I will go and try some funky new exercise!
About your star film, your actor Anushka said Bombay Velvet is more than just a film to her, that it's an experience. Ranbir Kapoor & Karan Johar echoed similar praise for it. Yet there are lots of stories around the film- that it ran out of finance, and that the studio (fox star) had issues with you. Tell us what's the real story here.
I know, there are loads of expectations from Bombay Velvet', and I ready to take them on. I will deliver on them. I always take 8 months to a year on the postproduction of any film; I don't usually wrap up a film just like that. I keep working on it, and we've got Thelma Schumacher to work on the postproduction on it. Everybody came on board for this film for the love of it, the craft. The idea is never to be satisfied. People who have seen the film have loved it like 6 months back. I am saying, we can make it better, and that's what takes the film forward. Today, the studio and everyone on the team sees why it's taking longer than usual. Everybody is very excited.
It's a lot of responsibility! If Bombay Velvet' does not work, filmmakers who are bracketed alongside me will not be given that kind of money to make a film again. So I carry that responsibility with this film, and I carry the trust of Ranbir Kapoor & Anushka Sharma. I have to win that trust and justify it. I can't take it for granted that the stars are here, so I do whatever I please! For 15 years, it's been a battle of sorts that films like mine do not feature in mainstream cinema. If I am making a mainstream, big budget film today, I will need to justify the opportunity. I will need to do my best. It's a big scale film, a big budget film, and at the same time, its quite real. There is entertainment and it is a love story, but the film is universal and goes beyond typically Bollywood. So I must make the film up to that standard.
Were there issues Fox Star Studios? There has been a lot of talk that the film faced financing difficulties because of issues with the studio.
There were no issues ever. Trade pundits in Bollywood sees me as someone who sinks money, "Ye Kyun aaya hain, ye tou paise dubayega." Trade has not seen my films make money, but they also never see that my films never have had stars. Without stars, my films make enough money, but film trade rarely sees that.
When sections of film trade and some others see me make a film with a huge budget, they assume that I will manipulate everyone to get money out of them. They never really view the script or content. Why would film studios repeat me all the time? They continue to finance me, and I am on good terms with everyone. Primarily because, I have not been dishonest to any one of them.
Kuch ek ko lagta hain ki Ranbir Ka career main khatam karne wala hoon (smiles). Plus there are always agendas to drive. About Bombay Velvet' , all the rumours have come from one single film trade magazine. That trade magazine had previously co-financed a film with Fox Star Studios, and are now having issues over share of profits etc. So this is their way of getting back at the studio. In fact, Fox Star Studios advised me to not react to any reports about Bombay Velvet' being in trouble, for they told me the origin of the rumours. So I let it be. In the end, the trailer will release, as will the film. Once that happens, people will see where the budgets were spent. So I have a much larger reply to detractors in the form of my movie. So why should I bother to retort to rumours?
Second clarification on Bombay Velvet'- is it true that Ranbir Kapoor is not happy, and that his father, Rishi Kapoor has seen the film and not approved of it?
This is a very strange rumour, for Rishi Kapoor has not seen the film. He does want to see it, but we want to complete it and then show it to him. Ranbir has seen the film once, he loves it, and now wants to see the finished version. Ranbir has also said on record that he loves the film, but no one writes about that!
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