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neerjashingla

@Neerjaa

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

Till now what i have watched whether about Swati or Astha . some observations

Both are from middle class family

Both said what was in their mind , Astha never bow down to anyone and always gave back forgetting if the other person is elder to her .

Difference is Astha was considered candidate for Shalok by Niranjan , because her father was useful for him in getting the lands

Swati i found to be mature , sensible and with self respect and dignity where Astha does not know the meaning . She is immature , impulsive ,does not give a person space .

If swati wanted She also have gone astha way but , she could not ignore the insults , her family and she had got .

And Shalok who thought himself to be loving Swati passionately as was seen in flash backs , did not ever thought to take her home and confront his mother . He chose the easy way out and then not trusting her , putting blame on women that they are not trust worthy .

Yes now to justify Shalok,s actions putting all blame to swati , did it comes to his mind that if she was married to someone then why her sister came after her . Gaytri should have confronted Shalok and should have taken her to Swati . But hindi shows can not be logical and if are then how track can be dragged for a month where it was full of loopholes , no reasoning in Aditi,s actions .

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neerjashingla

@Neerjaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

We all have different perspective to look at the same thing . If one can not respect him/ herself then how he/ she expects others to respect him / her . Yes this one is fiction world .

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mayabharathi

@mayabharathi

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Posted: 11 years ago

good that swati accepted to pay the price for her self respect by leaving shlok forever. No sympathy for her for leaving shlok but for her death yes. I like astha the way she is

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neerjashingla

@Neerjaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mayabharathi
good that swati accepted to pay the price for her self respect by leaving shlok forever. No sympathy for her for leaving shlok but for her death yes. I like astha the way she is

As already said depends person to person . Swati did not know that it was not Shalok who send the money thus insulting her as if her love was for sale and then His mother talking rudely to her . Every person is different . Swati i found to be mature and then Shalok not trusting her , what kind of love was that . Anyone will feel hurt . Why he did not that time took her to his mother to clear the misunderstandings . Astha is what she is . I liked her character as i found her to be from real world . But sometimes it was over the top and blame lies with Creatives who thought that Astha singing her never ending record will be unique thing . In every relationship you give space to a person , not leaving him but just havin a little distance to let other person sort himself out . Why there should be any sympathy for Swati as she was a hindrance in Astha getting Shalok to utter three golden words . Now she is gone and good riddance . Just pity the story teller and the mind set where he could not handle the whole track ,left with loopholes .

Edited by Neerjaa - 11 years ago

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saranyagulam

@saranyagulam

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

As already said depends person to person . Swati dids know that it was not Shalok who send the money thus insulting her as if her love was for sale and then His mother talking rudely to her . Every person is different . Swati i found to be mature and then Shalok not trusting her , what kind of love was that . Anyone will feel hurt . Why he did not that time took her to his mother to clear the misunderstandings . Astha is what she is . I liked her character as i found her to be from real world . But sometimes it was over the top and blame lies with Creatives who thought that Astha singing her never ending record will be unique thing . In every relationship you give space to a person , not leaving him but just havin a little distance to let other person sort himself out . Why there should be any sympathy for her as she was a hindrance in Astha getting Shalok to utter three golden words . Now she is gone and good riddance . Just pity the story teller and the mind set where he could not handle the whole track ,left with loopholes .

. We'll said neeraja I love ur points... Everyone is here praising astha's character... I love that character ... But sometimes too much importance given to that character ... Just allow him to sort himself free... This is entirely directors fault... He could not handle the story properly

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bingyy

@bingyy

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Posted: 11 years ago

astha is not giving shloke space ,not before ,not now even when shloke himself has to do some work in his life emotion wise & sorting wise & also things should be cleared by him now slowly ,not astha

like he should have himself put the photo of their marriage not astha ,but he should have taken time ,astha is not giving him space & is not letting him to work or to get his feelings straight on his own ,she is the one hindrance in shloke's feelings & emotions ,if she gives space & time ,then shloke will come forward ,if she herself does all work ,how will shloke do his part ????shloke has to feel love for astha on his own ,shloke has to say ILU on his own ,astha cannot make it to say ,that will be not love but as result of forcing or manipulation ,like she said today that after friendship shloke will fall for her ,yaar why cant she be just ferinds without ultimate motive ?? let her be pure friend first without any motive ,to support him without expectation ,in this way astha is wrong & immature

they r again changing things overnight ,only that shloke is still consistent, i just hope he doesnt love astha now bcoz he has a longg way to love her

he should realize how much astha is for him & how much emotionally connected he is or does he love her & then how much extent & what he did do to her ,all these things need a longgg time atleast another 5-6 months before shloke loves her & confession ILU

& he has to go through a longgg separation or redemption (without some serious separation how will be redemption ) ,to realize astha's worth & his wrongdoings

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neerjashingla

@Neerjaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: saranyagulam
. We'll said neeraja I love ur points... Everyone is here praising astha's character... I love that character ... But sometimes too much importance given to that character ... Just allow him to sort himself free... This is entirely directors fault... He could not handle the story properly

I already said i go for story , yes came because of Avinash as already have seen him . Loved the concept and then all the senior actors who were brilliant . Liked Astha,s character which i found from real world . How can Astha did not got her mother,s traits who is self respecting woman . One needs to know where to draw a line , not imposing yourself to another person . Yes i find Swati to be mature with self respect where how she can forgive a person who does not trust her . Why she will herself break the bond with the person she had loved . Trust is foundation of love . So many loop holes . Any sound mind person like Shalok should have taken to her and confronted his mother if he had really loved her and let her go when she accused him . this was from real world .

Whole track was caricatured just to sensationalized the Aditi and her not clear motives . How can Hindi shows be subtle ?

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neerjashingla

@Neerjaa

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: bingyy
astha is not giving shloke space ,not before ,not now even when shloke himself has to do some work in his life emotion wise & sorting wise & also things should be cleared by him now slowly ,not astha

like he should have himself put the photo of their marriage not astha ,but he should have taken time ,astha is not giving him space & is not letting him to work or to get his feelings straight on his own ,she is the one hindrance in shloke's feelings & emotions ,if she gives space & time ,then shloke will come forward ,if she herself does all work ,how will shloke do his part ????shloke has to feel love for astha on his own ,shloke has to say ILU on his own ,astha cannot make it to say ,that will be not love but as result of forcing or manipulation ,like she said today that after friendship shloke will fall for her ,yaar why cant she be just ferinds without ultimate motive ?? let her be pure friend first without any motive ,to support him without expectation ,in this way astha is wrong & immature

they r again changing things overnight ,only that shloke is still consistent, i just hope he doesnt love astha now bcoz he has a longg way to love her

he should realize how much astha is for him & how much emotionally connected he is or does he love her & then how much extent & what he did do to her ,all these things need a longgg time at least another 5-6 months before shloke loves her & confession ILU

& he has to go through a longgg separation or redemption (without some serious separation how will be redemption ) ,to realize astha's worth & his wrongdoings

Why do you want Shalok to go on Redemption or say on guilt trip when the person for whom he should be feeling , already has forgotten her past and just on her mission to let him say what she has been dying to listen from a long time . What not she did , teary eyes before him to make him guilt , with her unbroken saga of love , saying something and doing something else . Why all the drama when at the first place you were never going to leave Shalok . Now Swati name hindrance is out and with that from Shalok,s mind within a day , then why to go on sad trip Its time for Shalok,s love saga .

For him to realize Astha,s worth , he has to be given space so that he sort himself out but when the said person is not intersted then Shalok already is guilt free . Astha made him Guilt free ater reading Swati,s eyes as she is sharp person .

Enough ...

Edited by Neerjaa - 11 years ago