Two Lawyers, One Degree - A Suits FC - Page 50

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Totally agree again...I briefly wondered if Harvey smoking pot with him MIGHT lead to some deep, meaningful convo...even if it wasn't about reaffirming Mike's behavior but maybe just giving him support in THAT way no matter how twisted, if something GOOD had come out of it, I'd buy it...but no, all we got was a stoned Harvey talking about his own relationship with his father and his cheating mother...somehow the IMPACT didn't come through...it felt underwhelming...probably cuz he was STONED and somehow not feeling like Harvey to me.

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking

Nope, it's not just you. They literally decided to 'wrap' it up in the last 20 minutes and it was half-assed, patchy, because of the way they chose to show it...Harvey and Mike needed to be stoned to have the thought occur to them that the memo might be planted? Seriously? Then they had to show the entire thing with 'proof'...so Harvey goes to fight Tanner...tell me again, why? Because he thinks Tanner will admit or testify for him? Bahahahaha, because that guy really has shown such behavioural traits before! 😆 So all that came of the boxing scene was Harvey being convinced that the memo was fraudulent...well, weren't they already sure of that!? Nothing accomplished, time wasted.

Furthermore, Mike going to the CM motors CEO to get proof...it just so brutally fell through the floor because Mike didn't get any proof...why show that to put up another strike of falsity in the resolution of this story? Someone's telling me that Harvey, Jessica, Mike...all three of those brilliant lawyers couldn't come up with a much more succinct but one-strike way of unveiling Hardman or forcing him out? I knowww...LOL seriously I expect SO much better from them...the entire Tanner scene was SUCH a waste...they already KNEW the memo was a fake...so WHAT did they accomplish there? So POINTLESS, man...and honestly Harvey seemed off his game in this epi...and apparently Mike can only really start to function once he's smoked his pot again...lameness.

It's a pity because I almost wanted Jessica herself devise a plan in order to send Hardman packing once she was tipped off about the memo being planted because this was her fight in so many ways...her mettle as a managing partner, and even lawyer had been questioned leading up to this vote...so I wish they would have shown her being bad ass at what she does to justify that she is independently capable and on top of the game. SO true...I kept waiting and waiting for a wow Jessica moment throughout the epi but NOTHING...they pretty much relegated her to the sidelines in this epi once again to just WATCH Harvey and Mike going through the motions...if this was PERSONAL b/w her and Hardman, they should have given her one kickass move atleast...but they didn't give her ANYTHING.

The meeting itself was done so shoddily...the issue was primarily with the way the episode was written, I suppose...Jessica telling Harvey that 'You go, I go' held no emotional punch, even though it was, in theory, an extremely significant moment...but it came and went without any emphasis, almost as if taken for granted, understood...whereas that is not the case. SO true...this statement from Jessica SHOULD have had impact given it's significance in the storyline but there was just no punch as you said...they were so busy RUSHING through the epi that hardly anything made impact.


There were no significant moments between Harvey or Mike...none between Harvey and Jessica, because they'd finally won, or he'd finally come true on his word of being on her side...there was nothing personal...BINGO....they didn't give us even ONE memorable scene b/w our fav. sets of characters...ANYONE...if their idea of a great "personal" scene was that Harvey-Mike getting stoned scene, then I'm sorry that didn't really cut it for me.

it was all just stream-rolling and celebrating like a bunch of cocky, reckless kids. For Mike, it has been character degeneration ever since the start of this season...he has not grown one bit as a person...Donna showed no growth as a result of her mistakes, she showed no learning, so that was another arc gone to waste with no conclusion that developed her further...and Louis...they just back pedalled so inconsiderately on all the nuances they had shown to him this season by showing him out for such shallow revenge and then doing a 360 on that in seconds. EXACTLY...it's like all of season two might as well have not happened only as far as Louis is concerned cuz they just reset him back to the beginning of season one...so all the layers and all we saw to him over this time we should just FORGET now? Cuz honestly the Louis we saw in this epi just didn't flow with the Louis we've seen the rest of the season.

I think they are just so lazy in GENERAL with the writing for Mike...no growth like you said...all we see is him jumping stupidly in and out of bed with any random chick...he makes THE WORST decisions in his love life especially and there is just NO logic for it...the so called "idealistic" Mr. Ross is so eager to jump into bed with a married woman all of a sudden cuz Rachel didn't let her kiss him? THAT'S how despo he is? Pathetic.

I'm going to pretend like this episode never happened. LOL great idea...waise bhi it's such a long hiatus now that we might as well forget the story only😆

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking

This was such a tragedy because the circumstances almost cheapened the significance of Harvey telling something like that to Mike. They summed up, watered down Harvey's story to just a few sentences...and Mike's response to that? Don't depress me, I don't want to see your emotional side if this is what it means. Basically Mike sounded exactly like a pothead would in such a scenario...like a selfish jackass...or maybe they were trying to show him "emotionally unable to deal" so he's flippant...whatever it was, it didn't cut it for me.

You know what really ticked me off in this episode? Mike's righteousness, him apparently being this great, better person than Harvey, or at least always trying, being so conflicted about it, throwing that in other people's faces...turns out that the more you see of him, that really starts looking false. Honestly Mike's righteousness has been ringing hollow for QUITE some time to me...but this epi just took it overboard...his being "conflicted" is just written SO poorly that he just comes across as a shallow DUMBASS who's all talk and quick to sunaao to Harvey but hardly takes a look at what he himself is doing.

Something I was reading somewhere else that was pointed out...very soon after Harvey told Mike about his mother, Mike went and slept with a married woman. Way to be a considerate douche, dude! OMG I didn't realize that before! That just makes this all SO much worse! Ughhh🤢

And him stringing Rachel along...so far I thought she was overbearing, judgemental, the one who was actually being all righteous...but Mike actually doesn't care about her...his feelings are shallow, one dimensional...they surface when the 'best thing that has happened this week' occurs, just because he wants to 'celebrate' that discovery or finding by being with a girl...but if Rachel won't put out, let me call that old, married friend of mine! If he actually even had an ounce of genuine feeling for her, he wouldn't be able to brush those aside as he does. So the writers trying to sell Mike and Rachel as endgame? As meant to be, together, forever, all that jazz...you're showing the boy and girl who cry wolf repeatedly...no one wants to see that. You know, it's really saying something when I go on Rachel's side and urge her to run in the different direction from Mike. Hopefully she'll go to law school so she doesn't have to deal with this tool. Shallow is SO the word...and yes Rachel can do much better...I think she should stick to finishing law school and becoming a kickass lawyer instead of wasting her time over this confused shallow loser...his endless girl troubles elicit absolutely NO sympathy from me...it's DISGUSTING that he's doing all this in the wake of his grandmother having JUST died and WHO stood by him the most then? RACHEL did...and I"m hardly a fan of the girl but she deserved FAR more consideration than this considering how she's ALWAYS gone out of her way for him.

Originally posted by: Maz.

Make that 3 votes.. lol

Biggest disappointment is the Hardman overthrow...I kinda expected him to be stay on for another 2-3 episodes...this was too soon, he is made MD and then in a week.. poof he is gone again...wasted chance to show how the characters would cope up with the new setting... I understand that Harvey is the best lawyer around in the firm, so he would have eventually deciphered this, but it was half baked stuff..

Not much one-liners too...except for the GoT reference which was cool...lol..

Everyone was just very 'high'.. 😆

Quite a lousy final moment to close the episode.. 🥱

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Honestly Mike's righteousness has been ringing hollow for QUITE some time to me...but this epi just took it overboard...his being "conflicted" is just written SO poorly that he just comes across as a shallow DUMBASS who's all talk and quick to sunaao to Harvey but hardly takes a look at what he himself is doing.