Does one have to apply logic while attempting an illogical problem ?
Does one have to apply logic while attempting an illogical problem ?
Does one have to apply logic while attempting an illogical problem ?
Originally posted by: Freethinker112
I read that in some article, long time ago. Paradox of omnipotent. Would link but the site is down. I have the three pages article saved to my disk.
The theists then claim God is beyond logic. He is beyond science too. And he is beyond human understanding too. But yeah, they definitely know he exists. Smells like another paradox to me. 😆
Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil
So God is illogical? 😆
I understand God is beyond the scope of the natural world and hence outside the field of science, so it's not scientific/material evidence one is always demanding when it comes to God. I think it is important to maintain discussions rationally and logically, regardless of whether we are talking about something scientific or philosophical or metaphysical.
Originally posted by: return_to_hades
Reminds me of a scene from Donnie Darko
Donnie: Oh, I don't know. I mean, I'd like to believe I'm not, but I just... I've just never seen any proof, so I... I just don't debate it anymore, you know? It's like I could spend my whole life debating it over and over again, weighing the pros and cons. And in the end, I still wouldn't have any proof. So I just... I just don't debate it anymore. It's absurd.
Dr. Thurman: The search for God is absurd?
Donnie: It is if everyone dies alone.
Originally posted by: K.Universe.
BTW, theists claiming that God definitely exists is not that different from atheists claiming that God definitely doesn't exist.
Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil
Yeah, that's why agnostic theism works perfectly from me. I don't know but I believe. 😆
Originally posted by: K.Universe.
I think you are an ignostic (like me) considering you too wouldn't answer the question whether God exists unless a working definition of God is provided that is acceptable to all.
Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil
I agree though. Is it possible to find the existence of something when we don't even know what that something is?
It's like trying to find XYZ.
"Does XYZ exist?"
"Well what is XYZ?"
I think anthropomorphic versions of God/gods can easily be dismissed as man-made depictions. Depending on the definition, people will perceive it differently.
But I think a narrow definition of God from various philosophies and religions can be deduced. 'First uncaused cause' is the narrowest it can get.
Originally posted by: K.Universe.
It's easy to pick apart most paradoxes including the "omnipotent paradox" presented here if only one is willing to spend a couple of minutes thinking. Sadly, most people refuse to think for fear of getting taxed.
BTW, theists claiming that God definitely exists is not that different from atheists claiming that God definitely doesn't exist.
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