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Posted: 13 years ago
Nur - Aah, someone feels like me. I usually really like her articles - in fact I think I remember saying how her write ups among all others inspired by Kunal/NBT have been more precise and content specific. But after reading this one, all I could think of was the woman's hit by a much belated sense of loss for NBT/Kunal - more Kunal, no doubt. Not to say she wouldn't have felt the waves from wherever it started - she might or might not have - but the point is exactly what you're saying. They held on to something that was so obviously a lost cause too long and continued to lament through its down slide ride. I don't particularly understand how the whole "loyalty/hope" tangent works for an audience. So personally I would think that if I REALLY liked someone's work, I would direly want to promote the need of quality prospects for him/her. And not applaud everything in his/her surround sound just because they're a part of it! NBT fangirls have given longevity to a project which quite a while back started failing their rockstar hero Kunal. And they think they were "sticking thick" for him. Damaging support, is all I can say! And honestly I stopped going to the forum entirely because the fangirlism was becoming too precocious for me to even briefly bear, but the other day when you posted something on the GoT thread I wandered by again, and it's an awful unrecognizable place! No surprise though.

I think it's not just the "simplicity" being lost that's the concern, but the fact that the audience doesn't really know or understand what they strive for. How many people in the audience even want their show to ever end? They're okay to have it drag to an eternity's while, if only it's still running. And then the same people will look back and mock the K-shows which ran for years. The majority audience only vies for one thing - what struck a point with them, should live forever. No strings attached. And even if a show has potential and starts off very well, how do you expect it to run on and on without an expiry and without any degradation? I don't know if its the TRP system you can blame for it, singularly, or the audience expectation of never ending results from one source. People keep talking about how Indian TV needs the weekly system, the seasons system, like other networks, I think they just need to draw some contracts and lines about having FIXED PLANS. In terms of story, its running time, its cast, and all those parameters. And not start off with a vague theory - we have this ONE single thought, we're going to start off a show based on it, and then depending on how it goes we will stretch forever, or be terminated. It's the one single handed means of ensuring you can NEVER have a show which is content rich in a consistent manner, when the show has no idea how long to run, along what audience pleasing tangents to pursue, and so on...
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Jzee: Perfectly put...couldn't agree with you more...I think whatever sense I've managed to get from the forum at large is that Kunal too is looking largely disinterested in the show and probably switched off a while back...the rest is running on autopilot right now...there is always a loyal audience for anything...the best of things, the worst of trash...ppl who just CAN'T seem to let go...and will find the "good" even where none exists...eternal "optimists" to put it politely.

For ppl like us, something good NEEDS to be there...we can't MANUFACTURE it out of our imaginations to make ourselves happy or keep on lamenting about the "good old days" endlessly.

In NBT's case...it's mainly the attention from Colors that killed it...it was going fine before that...when they felt the need to "fix" it in light of them noticing the cult following it had gathered, the degeneration began and soon reached the point of no return...enough in that the actors are also now enjoying vacations on the PH budget and don't feel any compulsion to make this crap convincing...at this rate, shutdown is imminent quite soon in my opinion cuz the ratings seem to be sliding as well...Big Boss is coming up...every time I read a random TB article about MM doing salsa or whatever other crap I still have a brief head-shaking moment wondering how on earth this remotely connects to what was once a show we loved.


Anywhoo...on a different note, that silly song from TMLS...that 'sab mera tu' is now stuck in my head😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@Jzee: Perfectly put...couldn't agree with you more...I think whatever sense I've managed to get from the forum at large is that Kunal too is looking largely disinterested in the show and probably switched off a while back...the rest is running on autopilot right now...there is always a loyal audience for anything...the best of things, the worst of trash...ppl who just CAN'T seem to let go...and will find the "good" even where none exists...eternal "optimists" to put it politely.

For ppl like us, something good NEEDS to be there...we can't MANUFACTURE it out of our imaginations to make ourselves happy or keep on lamenting about the "good old days" endlessly.

In NBT's case...it's mainly the attention from Colors that killed it...it was going fine before that...when they felt the need to "fix" it in light of them noticing the cult following it had gathered, the degeneration began and soon reached the point of no return...enough in that the actors are also now enjoying vacations on the PH budget and don't feel any compulsion to make this crap convincing...at this rate, shutdown is imminent quite soon in my opinion cuz the ratings seem to be sliding as well...Big Boss is coming up...every time I read a random TB article about MM doing salsa or whatever other crap I still have a brief head-shaking moment wondering how on earth this remotely connects to what was once a show we loved.


Anywhoo...on a different note, that silly song from TMLS...that 'sab mera tu' is now stuck in my head😆


Word to those bits in bold. As for Colors giving NBT exclusive attention, I have a feeling it only brought about the end much faster. If even the original team had decided to run this on with indefinite plans because it was popular with the cult following, it would have worn off and grown old eventually anyway too. Like I said before, things need to have an expiry date and a predetermined one, and Indian TV is running very vaguely over that point.

I think the one reason Colors got really involved so quickly wasn't just the following but the possible fact that they always kept the possibility of Big Boss replacing it in mind and wanted to "juice" it out in time... maybe they'd have let it be longer otherwise? Anyway, these are wasted speculations now and honestly people who stuck around with whatever hope were always setting themselves off for a lingering phase of letting go. Pulling off a band aid in one swift move is MUCH easier, and effective. I can't really empathize with them, because they're part of the people who were ready to accept distortion for whatever sake. And some where, these are the people who are allowing the tellybiz to run as it does... There's only so much chance you can give in benefit of doubt, and only so long. And the point of no return in NBT was STARK and staring!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Oh and, which TMLS song is this you're talking about? I liked the peppy thing from KSG's telefilm, the promos were ALL over and I was mentally humming it some days before it wore off 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: without-fathom

Oh and, which TMLS song is this you're talking about? I liked the peppy thing from KSG's telefilm, the promos were ALL over and I was mentally humming it some days before it wore off 😆



LOL it's that song Maz was mentioning a few weeks back too...the one from Shilpa Anand-Viraf Patel waala epi...randomly heard it on YT today and now it's stuck in my head😆

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaYaID3Zrc


I think the peppy one from the KSG promos is the title song...that IS catchy and was stuck in my head for a few days too😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
Aah it feels so good to read Jzee n Anu discuss nbtnmkk ... I love reading ur discussions ... took me back to the old days ... 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
Nurey, no no, not the title track. It's this song which goes gale laga le... zindagi... here, in this promo -


I swear the full version was on YT some days ago, abi I can't seem to find it *scratches head* It had a very feel good rhyme to it =))

And oh I heard this one too, the sab mera tu... Obviously the Shilpa promo did no less rounds 😆 Pata ni iss show ki TRPs kaise ni bani, still conphused I am 😆

Bhavi - Holaa there, long time! But you mean you were actually reading what I wrote this time?! 😲 😆 How ya been?
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Jzee - yeah thank God this time discussion thoda chota tha ... 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
TGIF! 🤪TGIF! 🤪TGIF!🤪TGIF!


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Posted: 12 years ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I just came across a video of that behna show on YT and guess what is happening there? Manvi is in the need of a bone marrow transplant and they happen to find a donor in TWO days when they themselves state that there is only 2% chance of finding the right donor. anyhow, they find the donor who is supposedly the "PERFECT" donor and everyone is elated and get to the hospital to get the procedure done and some trauma case comes in and the doctor who is supposed to be the ONCOLOGIST goes in for the trauma case. REALLY?! Are there no other doctors in that hospital? and what exactly would an oncologist do for a trauma patient?😳
anywho, so they come back again for the procedure to be done. Manvi has her super quick and i mean QUICK, chemo session. They manage to kill her entire bone marrow by a chemo session that lasted only an hour...AN HOUR?!😲 😳 when it normally takes 8 hours for a normal chemo session let alone this one that is to kill the entire bone marrow. Despite being rid of her bone marrow, Manvi is still bubbly and chirpy as usual.
The "oncologist" takes Manvi to the OR and gets ready to extract the bone marrow from the donor...but WAIT, even though the donor is the "PERFECT" donor, they haven't done any cross-matching tests and who finds that out? Jeevika! HOW you may ask? Well she gets a sign directly from GOD! **cue dramatic mantras and stuff** Jeevika LITERALLY runs to the OR to stop the procedure. and ummm now there's Manvi who is completely devoid of bone marrow and she is still shown to be alive...ALIVE?!😲 Without any bone marrow? Without any blood cells being produced by her body let alone neutropenic precautions!

Oh and if that wasn't enough, the MAHAAN jeevika will probably be shown to donate her marrow by aborting her pregnancy right away. Ummm one can't donate blood till 6 months after any sort of abortion, let alone bone marrow transplant! 😳

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