Jogi-most unrealistic character:Warning PG7

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after seeing yesterday's episode and hearing my friend's comments i could not stop myself from posting this topic.
Actually its not Icchhaa who is the dumbest and unrealistic character in the serial,but its the greatest Jogi Takur.
He is bringing shame to all the fathers in the world..He is very proud to be called as Icchhaas father right...
then wat about his own biological daughter????why he is not realising and accepting that its his upbringing that
is responsible for the behaviour of tapasya...why he is not analysing his fault?wat rathore said was correct.
when he was supposed to correct her mistakes,he didn't do that..now he is angry at her and literally abandoned her

One thing he should understand that a child need unconditional love from their parents not so many precious gifts.
he know to shower love on his adopted daughter,but not on his own daughter.Someone will say that he has so much love for
tapasya in his heart but not showing .but let me ask u ..wat is the use of hidden love.one should express it.
He was shown sitting and crying during rasya marriage,wat was the use.he could have atleast gone there to do his
so called fatherly duties(atleast go ther and do kanyadaan and come back).i will not say that he should go ther happily
and attend the marriage.but atleast go ther and witness the new begining of his daughter's life(he could have done that
without even talking with her)but no...he is a mahaan...who can do mahaan things for his adopted daughter but
doing nothing for his own daughter

he should have given tapasya more importance than icchhaa...atleast he should have made tapasya feel like that...
he used to do that in childhood atleast rarely(like he said no to icchhaa wen she asked and granted permission
wen tapasya came on behalf of icchhaa)...he was much more acceptable then
then this situation will not have happened...but wat happened is that tapasya became jealous and he became root cause
...he could have tackled the situation then and ther wen he came to know about tapasya's insecurities about him

in this forums all r praising jogi and umed...and i personally feel that umed is the best father bcoz he knows
his son and wat he needs and he always try to give wat his son wants..also scolds him lovingly wen he do mistakes(icchhaas case)
and make him understand wat is right and wrong.he also always sides with truth but not like jogi
who act as mahaan infront of other and always failed to understand his daughter .he will vent out his anger on tapasya
.tell me truly guys, which father will throw out his daughter(not son) from house at night wen she was proved to be
reason for someone else's death..no one..that too considering today's world...
wat will he do if he finds his daughter lying dead in a railway track being victim of rape the next day...will it be the punishment for her sins??we have law and order to punish culprits...don't we...hmmm...
if he had that much ethics and moral values he should have called the police and handed over
tapasya to them...then i would have considered him as a person with moral values...but not now...

then she came back pregnant
(she was lucky as the person behind that really loves her and wants to marry her)...
its bound to happen for any girl thrown out of house like that(without money and education certificates)
unless she has gone to some orphanage or something like that...wen jogi came to know that the child is someone else how
did he react...let me ask you will tapasya be able to reveal this secret to jogi considering the
situation she was taken back in the house by him...so best thing was to lie that its veer child(don't tell me rathore was ther and all..
..i saw him coming into picture wen she reached bundela house)

i agree that later she played with emotions of bundela parivaar..that was wrong ...tapasya did acting to get veer,but wat did
gunwanti did,she took tapasya back in house for her selfish needs...don't you think it paved way for more drama and
destruction of peace in that house...

in which family they will make ex-wife and current wife stay under same roof even the ex is pregnant ?...usually people will visit
ex if they loves the baby and try to bring baby to the house after its born...

ya coming back to jogi...
consider the scenes of him with damini and icchhaa
its fair to shower love on icchhaa infront of all considering she is his adopted daughter
but the scenes with damini is totally disgusting..my friends too have same opinion...he is so concerned about her that we feel she is his wife...
consider you in divya's position..you have a loyal servant who is of ur age...she is constantly giving you saab jaap and taking care
of all the things of ur husband...also ur husband says no to you regarding something and after getting a request from
servant he allows u to go(america issue)...how will you feel..won't u be angry at the servant...don't tell me you won't..
all wives are possessive about their husbands...there are somethings that a wife should take care about husband...
also let me ask you...should ther be privacy in between hus and wife...whenever jogi-divya are talking damini will poke her nose
into that matter...is it really appreciated...
all i should say is ther should be border line for every relations...jogi can respect damini but should give more importance to his own wife and
child...we all r human and have egos and insecurities..one should consider this in keeping all relations
.and how can you expect divya to take all this very easily...seeing the treatment he is giving to own daughter
and adopted daughter...

All i can say is jogi was never a good father to tapasya nor a good husband to divya(in divya's case ther may be some exceptions)😑😑

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mikku87

after seeing yesterday's episode and hearing my friend's comments i could not stop myself from posting this topic.
Actually its not Icchhaa who is the dumbest and unrealistic character in the serial,but its the greatest Jogi Takur.
He is bringing shame to all the fathers in the world..He is very proud to be called as Icchhaas father right...
then wat about his own biological daughter????why he is not realising and accepting that its his upbringing that
is responsible for the behaviour of tapasya...why he is not analysing his fault?wat rathore said was correct.
when he was supposed to correct her mistakes,he didn't do that..now he is angry at her and literally abandoned her

One thing he should understand that a child need unconditional love from their parents not so many precious gifts.
he know to shower love on his adopted daughter,but not on his own daughter.Someone will say that he has so much love for
tapasya in his heart but not showing .but let me ask u ..wat is the use of hidden love.one should express it.
He was shown sitting and crying during rasya marriage,wat was the use.he could have atleast gone there to do his
so called fatherly duties(atleast go ther and do kanyadaan and come back).i will not say that he should go ther happily
and attend the marriage.but atleast go ther and witness the new begining of his daughter's life(he could have done that
without even talking with her)but no...he is a mahaan...who can do mahaan things for his adopted daughter but
doing nothing for his own daughter

he should have given tapasya more importance than icchhaa...atleast he should have made tapasya feel like that...
he used to do that in childhood atleast rarely(like he said no to icchhaa wen she asked and granted permission
wen tapasya came on behalf of icchhaa)...he was much more acceptable then
then this situation will not have happened...but wat happened is that tapasya became jealous and he became root cause
...he could have tackled the situation then and ther wen he came to know about tapasya's insecurities about him

in this forums all r praising jogi and umed...and i personally feel that umed is the best father bcoz he knows
his son and wat he needs and he always try to give wat his son wants..also scolds him lovingly wen he do mistakes(icchhaas case)
and make him understand wat is right and wrong.he also always sides with truth but not like jogi
who act as mahaan infront of other and always failed to understand his daughter .he will vent out his anger on tapasya
.tell me truly guys, which father will throw out his daughter(not son) from house at night wen she was proved to be
reason for someone else's death..no one..that too considering today's world...
wat will he do if he finds his daughter lying dead in a railway track being victim of rape the next day...will it be the punishment for her sins??we have law and order to punish culprits...don't we...hmmm...
if he had that much ethics and moral values he should have called the police and handed over
tapasya to them...then i would have considered him as a person with moral values...but not now...

then she came back pregnant
(she was lucky as the person behind that really loves her and wants to marry her)...
its bound to happen for any girl thrown out of house like that(without money and education certificates)
unless she has gone to some orphanage or something like that...wen jogi came to know that the child is someone else how
did he react...let me ask you will tapasya be able to reveal this secret to jogi considering the
situation she was taken back in the house by him...so best thing was to lie that its veer child(don't tell me rathore was ther and all..
..i saw him coming into picture wen she reached bundela house)

i agree that later she played with emotions of bundela parivaar..that was wrong ...tapasya did acting to get veer,but wat did
gunwanti did,she took tapasya back in house for her selfish needs...don't you think it paved way for more drama and
destruction of peace in that house...

in which family they will make ex-wife and current wife stay under same roof even the ex is pregnant ?...usually people will visit
ex if they loves the baby and try to bring baby to the house after its born...

ya coming back to jogi...
consider the scenes of him with damini and icchhaa
its fair to shower love on icchhaa infront of all considering she is his adopted daughter
but the scenes with damini is totally disgusting..my friends too have same opinion...he is so concerned about her that we feel she is his wife...
consider you in divya's position..you have a loyal servant who is of ur age...she is constantly giving you saab jaap and taking care
of all the things of ur husband...also ur husband says no to you regarding something and after getting a request from
servant he allows u to go(america issue)...how will you feel..won't u be angry at the servant...don't tell me you won't..
all wives are possessive about their husbands...there are somethings that a wife should take care about husband...
also let me ask you...should ther be privacy in between hus and wife...whenever jogi-divya are talking damini will poke her nose
into that matter...is it really appreciated...
all i should say is ther should be border line for every relations...jogi can respect damini but should give more importance to his own wife and
child...we all r human and have egos and insecurities..one should consider this in keeping all relations
.and how can you expect divya to take all this very easily...seeing the treatment he is giving to own daughter
and adopted daughter...

All i can say is jogi was never a good father to tapasya nor a good husband to divya(in divya's case ther may be some exceptions)😑😑



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FINALLY someone gets it! I agree with each and everything in your post Jogi is most unrealistic and has made everyone his wife and his daughter suffer for his own mistakes. I just dont understand why Jogi never did anything when he realised Nani was poisoning Tapu! he was so concerned about Ichha it makes me very angry to think he never did the right thing by Tapasya! If he had raised her properly she would have never become the way she is today!😑 And yeh hes always doing Damini jhaap near Divya like which wife is gonna like that?😑

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Mikku87 -- very well written! Agree with you 200%.
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Well I think more then Jogi it is teaching of Damini Vs Divya/Nani which has made Ichcha & Tapu d way they are today As for Divya it's again Nani/Pushkar's personal issues with Damini which has made them fill Divya's ears against Damini all d time
Edited by shyams - 14 years ago
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πŸ‘ πŸ‘ love ur post, a refreshing one, absolutely new logic πŸ‘ πŸ˜‰
Edited by ankit111 - 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mikku87

after seeing yesterday's episode and hearing my friend's comments i could not stop myself from posting this topic.
Actually its not Icchhaa who is the dumbest and unrealistic character in the serial,but its the greatest Jogi Takur.
He is bringing shame to all the fathers in the world..He is very proud to be called as Icchhaas father right...
then wat about his own biological daughter????why he is not realising and accepting that its his upbringing that
is responsible for the behaviour of tapasya...why he is not analysing his fault?wat rathore said was correct.
when he was supposed to correct her mistakes,he didn't do that..now he is angry at her and literally abandoned her

One thing he should understand that a child need unconditional love from their parents not so many precious gifts.
he know to shower love on his adopted daughter,but not on his own daughter.Someone will say that he has so much love for
tapasya in his heart but not showing .but let me ask u ..wat is the use of hidden love.one should express it.
He was shown sitting and crying during rasya marriage,wat was the use.he could have atleast gone there to do his
so called fatherly duties(atleast go ther and do kanyadaan and come back).i will not say that he should go ther happily
and attend the marriage.but atleast go ther and witness the new begining of his daughter's life(he could have done that
without even talking with her)but no...he is a mahaan...who can do mahaan things for his adopted daughter but
doing nothing for his own daughter

he should have given tapasya more importance than icchhaa...atleast he should have made tapasya feel like that...
he used to do that in childhood atleast rarely(like he said no to icchhaa wen she asked and granted permission
wen tapasya came on behalf of icchhaa)...he was much more acceptable then
then this situation will not have happened...but wat happened is that tapasya became jealous and he became root cause
...he could have tackled the situation then and ther wen he came to know about tapasya's insecurities about him

in this forums all r praising jogi and umed...and i personally feel that umed is the best father bcoz he knows
his son and wat he needs and he always try to give wat his son wants..also scolds him lovingly wen he do mistakes(icchhaas case)
and make him understand wat is right and wrong.he also always sides with truth but not like jogi
who act as mahaan infront of other and always failed to understand his daughter .he will vent out his anger on tapasya
.tell me truly guys, which father will throw out his daughter(not son) from house at night wen she was proved to be
reason for someone else's death..no one..that too considering today's world...
wat will he do if he finds his daughter lying dead in a railway track being victim of rape the next day...will it be the punishment for her sins??we have law and order to punish culprits...don't we...hmmm...
if he had that much ethics and moral values he should have called the police and handed over
tapasya to them...then i would have considered him as a person with moral values...but not now...

then she came back pregnant
(she was lucky as the person behind that really loves her and wants to marry her)...
its bound to happen for any girl thrown out of house like that(without money and education certificates)
unless she has gone to some orphanage or something like that...wen jogi came to know that the child is someone else how
did he react...let me ask you will tapasya be able to reveal this secret to jogi considering the
situation she was taken back in the house by him...so best thing was to lie that its veer child(don't tell me rathore was ther and all..
..i saw him coming into picture wen she reached bundela house)

i agree that later she played with emotions of bundela parivaar..that was wrong ...tapasya did acting to get veer,but wat did
gunwanti did,she took tapasya back in house for her selfish needs...don't you think it paved way for more drama and
destruction of peace in that house...

in which family they will make ex-wife and current wife stay under same roof even the ex is pregnant ?...usually people will visit
ex if they loves the baby and try to bring baby to the house after its born...

ya coming back to jogi...
consider the scenes of him with damini and icchhaa
its fair to shower love on icchhaa infront of all considering she is his adopted daughter
but the scenes with damini is totally disgusting..my friends too have same opinion...he is so concerned about her that we feel she is his wife...
consider you in divya's position..you have a loyal servant who is of ur age...she is constantly giving you saab jaap and taking care
of all the things of ur husband...also ur husband says no to you regarding something and after getting a request from
servant he allows u to go(america issue)...how will you feel..won't u be angry at the servant...don't tell me you won't..
all wives are possessive about their husbands...there are somethings that a wife should take care about husband...
also let me ask you...should ther be privacy in between hus and wife...whenever jogi-divya are talking damini will poke her nose
into that matter...is it really appreciated...
all i should say is ther should be border line for every relations...jogi can respect damini but should give more importance to his own wife and
child...we all r human and have egos and insecurities..one should consider this in keeping all relations
.and how can you expect divya to take all this very easily...seeing the treatment he is giving to own daughter
and adopted daughter...

All i can say is jogi was never a good father to tapasya nor a good husband to divya(in divya's case ther may be some exceptions)😑😑

Jogi has always been fair to Tappu and his good for nothing wife and I don't think he ever been partial to Ichha. Most of the times, Ichha just survived on the left overs of Tappu and he mother has always worked as a loyal servant taking care of all housework. I also remember divya's behaviour to damini in the initial episodes.

While Tappu under the guidance o f nani and worst of all her mother (who patronised nani always whenevr jogi pointed at nani) has shown constant degeneration over the years. this mother-daughter duo seems to have a personality disorder...now just becaue they are mentally unhealthy but jogi's family should jogi become like them and defend them under all circumstances. Infact best treatment for people with presonality disorder is to rectify them and not give in to their tantrums and plots.
Tell me one episode where Tappu has done something which can make Jogi proud or respect her more than Ichha..She has always cared for herself and is a completely self-centered character.
Reading this post, it seems that people should side their family and support them in all wrong doings against people who are not from your family, but love you selflessly.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Why is every one blaming Jogi?? Isn't it Tapasya decision to go to Rathod's house instead of going to her own parents and her own house ?? Doesn't that prove that Tapasya has removed her parents from her life completely with her own decisions and actions?? She even didn't tell his Parents about her whereabouts...They were uninformed until Rathod decided to marry her and so told them about her stay in his house. She preferred to stay at Rathod's house for months together without benefit of marriage they are definitely not friends and definitely not related and doesn't this show her indifference towards Jogi's love, his izzat etc. Jogi had many times told Tapasya that she belongs with him and if required will not only be a grandfather but also father to the baby. Still she choose to ignore her father's love. Whom should we actually blame here?? Tapasya being a coward ran to Rathod instead of Jogi simply becoz she wanted to escape the punishment and also may be doesn't have the guts to face her father as all her pregnancy drama is now out in the open for everyone. Jogi is following the path that Tapasya has chosen.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think people forgotten how cunningly Tapu hd been hiding her jealousy after tht hostel accident. She always showed before Jogi tht she love Ichchha. Even she hs been using Ichchha to hide her wrong deeds, tht time she was very friendly with her. In young age she was never shown as a child deprived from her parents love and fully enjoying the service of her friend cum servent till Veer started loving Ichchha. After Basti event she again pretended as improved person and it was shown tht Jogi was very caring to her, but again she cunningly hidden her evil soul and prepared a revange list. Where was her all attitude and arrogance whn she.was in basti?? But as.soon Jogi brought her home she started her hidden agenda. The logic tht he hd no options but claim tht child is of veer is mind blowing. People forgotten tht she entered bundela house with fake pregnancy drama. Its OK for her to fake pregnancy to play with the emotion of other people but whn mai also decided to use her thn she is guilty . Who started this drama??? Jogi not once but several time showed her love toward Tapu but did TAPU once showed tht she respect her or deed anything on which a father cd feel proud?? Even whn jogi forgiven her all crime and.accepted, she added him in her revange list. Dose only father hs responsibility towards his daughter and a 25 yr old daughter hs no any responsibility for her father??? Nani is blamed to poison her mind but madam ji not allowing her to go anywhere. U keep snake in ur patloon and whn it bite, blame the snake. And pls don't say tht she is kid, who can't understand wht a woman Nani is. Nani is her own choice over her parents and at this age u can't blame others for ur behaviour. It seems tht everybody around her is guilty except herself.
Edited by ankit111 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i agree with u mikku87 jogi is to be blamed nt poor tapu
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One more thing...Jogi had forgiven her brought her home and treated her as a princess. Had she become pregnant and had she told the truth of her adventures with Rathad Jogi would have hunted Rathod and would have arranged their marriage and this definitely would have been very respectful. What Tapasya did was fake pregnancy to force her entry into Veer's life once again. Its in Bundela's house that her pregnancy turned real. She had many chances to gracefully exit from Bundela's house especially when Rathod wanted to marry. Thru all this drama Jogi's presence is minimal. One more thing I would like to say Jogi was against Nani's stay but had to relent due to Divya's & Tapasya's insistence. Hence Tapasya herself chosen her destiny full of deceit.

GUNWNATI... I am not saying she is a Saint but she isn't the one to blame fully. Hasn't Tapasya & Nani do all the drama(fake pregnancy) infront of her to get into Bundela house. Gunwanti having lost her Son blindly believed Sadhu's words that Vansh will take a re-birth. She thought that she got one more chance to take better care of him. Tapni has used this weakness of Gunwanti to enter Bundela house and also tried there level best to oust Ichcha as well as alienate Ichcha from Veer and get closer to him. Hasn't Tapasya manipulated Gunwanti and make her request Ichcha for Veer's cooperation (Pooja incident). Hadn't she tried to get closer to Veer thru Gunwanti. Gunwanti is never shown to put a gun to Tapasya's head/blackmail her/ bribe her still Tapasya chose to live in bundela house. Gunwanti is just a means to Tapasya's goal. To be precise it is a symbiotic relationship at its best 🀣

UT has many loop holes the least is ex living with current wife in the same house...biggest so far as per my POV is not noticing height of the bride under the ghunghat πŸ€ͺ

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