All this for what?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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So guys it's come to everyone's attention that a lot of hate for Swaragini has occurred but the only reason is because of Ragini'S character. Everyone who is showing this hate really need to stop. I know everyone will be ready to type up a long reply to my post but read before you type. This show started off as a story about 2 sisters who shared the same goal and that was happiness for their parents. Then the show got different actors to portray different characters and that's what happens in any and every good show. People need to accept the fact that things will change and there is no need to hate. Is it really worth it? Your hate won't get you what you want. If you really dislike the show then stop watching it because those who watch the show and start talking nonsense about it are the ones that ruin it for everyone else. I think most of Swaragini fans only watch it for Swasan but that's not what the shows about the only reason Swasan happened was because of Ragini and we all know it so to those who hate Ragini and LOVE Swasan keep in mind who made the ship you love so bloody much. I truly love all the actors who play their characters , the good characters and the bad ones because they all do an incredible job and they've come so far. I hope no one is offended by this post and hopefully this negativity will slowly fade away. Thank you so much for taking your time to read this. I hope I get positive feedback in the comments if you wanna share your opinion.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't know whats the problem in hating ragini cause negative characters motive it to get hated and for that I love tejaswi cause even after such innocent face she can pull a character like ragini and make everyone hate her.
Ragini character has not got a proper redemption track even lakshya character has got that. So its natural to hate her a little more that the other lead. Now when she is being blamed for a the lie I think she is getting the much needed redemption and after that we can accept her. Just I wish cvs dont ruin it.
I have accepted raglak on screen when I thought there is no scope between the pair so I can accept ragini just a proper track.
Every thrid member of this form has problem for people who hate ragini. I think I justified my situation. I don't know about the rest.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I rarely comment here nowadays and I have kept mum on all the topics which became a fan war on the forum in the recent times, but there are times when one has to say it or burst! 🤔 So here goes...


You are right that most of us who watch Swaragini, watch for SwaSan. Isn't it a human trait that you watch what you love to see? 😊 I am a Swasanian and I watch the show for them now. But I have watched the show from the beginning when there was no SwaSan. I love a good story line too and I have no problem watching tracks involving other cast (and the casting is pretty good in this show) as long as it is reasonably logical and entertaining. What we are getting now is absolute nonsense.


As to hating Ragini's character, when a negative character is hated, that means that characterisation is a success. Is one supposed to approve the crimes done by a negative character? I did not like the crimes Ragini did when she was negative, but I loved Tejaswi's acting when Ragini was portrayed negative. She did a superlative job of being a vamp with the most innocent face.


Now Ragini is portrayed positive. Yet her character is still hated. Why? Because a convincing redemption was not shown for her. The title of the show is Swaragini and it is supposed to be a story of 2 sisters, so if it is important that audience accept Swara AND Ragini like they did Swara VS Ragini, then the writers should have worked towards that. I had no problem with Swaragini before Ragini turned negative, so if a proper redemption had been shown with the character reflecting on her wrong doings, apologising and atoning, I would have welcomed Swaragini again with open arms.


Instead, we get Ragini turned positive overnight without any real repentance on her part. Other characters who do wrong (eg Sanskaar) have to slog to earn the trust and forgiveness of the family. Now it is Parineeta's turn. What she has done is less than a quarter of what Ragini has done, but she is thrown out of the house and no one is even willing to listen to her! Add to that Swara who was punished for things she never did!


Moreover, Ragini justifies her crimes saying "I had a reason to do all that I did"...Really??? 😡 And we are supposed to like the character? And when this hated character insinuates herself into every scene even when she is not needed, we do see red! 😡 You could say CVs are to be blamed, but when one watches a show, one identifies with the characters, not the CVs. What we see is the character on the screen and not the invisible CVs!


We are the audience who watch the show and give TRPs, so we have every right to voice our displeasure if we do not like what is shown. Telling someone to stop watching is also not correct. I have been a loyal viewer since the first episode and I would like to watch the show for some more time with good tracks, so I would express my unhappiness if tracks are ruined.


Ragini is the most pathetic portrayal in Swaragini; even Parvati and Shekhar are better than her. At least they have apologised for some of their acts at one time or the other, but Ragini has never apologised for anything she did. Yet she was served forgiveness on a silver platter.


And justifying Ragini saying she was the reason for SwaSan happening....this is the most cockeyed theory I have heard! 😲 😆 Even if Ragini had not associated herself with Sanskaar, he would have realised at one point that he is unfairly targeting Swara in his revenge madness and they would have come together.


The irony of the show is that the name is Swaragini and this Swaragini bond they are forcing down our throats is most unpalatable. I am still puzzled as to why Ragini was not given a proper redemption track. If they could do it for Sanskaar and Lakshya, they could have done it for her too...and it could have been a blockbuster track if done well. All four leads would have been involved and all fans happy!


Which leads us to believe daal mein kuch kaala hai and when media releases some controversial snippets and videos, it is only natural to draw conclusions. After all, we did invest a lot of our time and emotions in the show and we have the right to state our opinions.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssroomani


I rarely comment here nowadays and I have kept mum on all the topics which became a fan war on the forum in the recent times, but there are times when one has to say it or burst! 🤔 So here goes...


You are right that most of us who watch Swaragini, watch for SwaSan. Isn't it a human trait that you watch what you love to see? 😊 I am a Swasanian and I watch the show for them now. But I have watched the show from the beginning when there was no SwaSan. I love a good story line too and I have no problem watching tracks involving other cast (and the casting is pretty good in this show) as long as it is reasonably logical and entertaining. What we are getting now is absolute nonsense.


As to hating Ragini's character, when a negative character is hated, that means that characterisation is a success. Is one supposed to approve the crimes done by a negative character? I did not like the crimes Ragini did when she was negative, but I loved Tejaswi's acting when Ragini was portrayed negative. She did a superlative job of being a vamp with the most innocent face.


Now Ragini is portrayed positive. Yet her character is still hated. Why? Because a convincing redemption was not shown for her. The title of the show is Swaragini and it is supposed to be a story of 2 sisters, so if it is important that audience accept Swara AND Ragini like they did Swara VS Ragini, then the writers should have worked towards that. I had no problem with Swaragini before Ragini turned negative, so if a proper redemption had been shown with the character reflecting on her wrong doings, apologising and atoning, I would have welcomed Swaragini again with open arms.


Instead, we get Ragini turned positive overnight without any real repentance on her part. Other characters who do wrong (eg Sanskaar) have to slog to earn the trust and forgiveness of the family. Now it is Parineeta's turn. What she has done is less than a quarter of what Ragini has done, but she is thrown out of the house and no one is even willing to listen to her! Add to that Swara who was punished for things she never did!


Moreover, Ragini justifies her crimes saying "I had a reason to do all that I did"...Really???😡 And we are supposed to like the character? And when this hated character insinuates herself into every scene even when she is not needed, we do see red! 😡 You could say CVs are to be blamed, but when one watches a show, one identifies with the characters, not the CVs. What we see is the character on the screen and not the invisible CVs!


We are the audience who watch the show and give TRPs, so we have every right to voice our displeasure if we do not like what is shown. Telling someone to stop watching is also not correct. I have been a loyal viewer since the first episode and I would like to watch the show for some more time with good tracks, so I would express my unhappiness if tracks are ruined.


Ragini is the most pathetic portrayal in Swaragini; even Parvati and Shekhar are better than her. At least they have apologised for some of their acts at one time or the other, but Ragini has never apologised for anything she did. Yet she was served forgiveness on a silver platter.


And justifying Ragini saying she was the reason for SwaSan happening....this is the most cockeyed theory I have heard! 😲😆 Even if Ragini had not associated herself with Sanskaar, he would have realised at one point that he is unfairly targeting Swara in his revenge madness and they would have come together.


The irony of the show is that the name is Swaragini and this Swaragini bond they are forcing down our throats is most unpalatable. I am still puzzled as to why Ragini was not given a proper redemption track. If they could do it for Sanskaar and Lakshya, they could have done it for her too...and it could have been a blockbuster track if done well. All four leads would have been involved and all fans happy!


Which leads us to believe daal mein kuch kaala hai and when media releases some controversial snippets and videos, it is only natural to draw conclusions. After all, we did invest a lot of our time and emotions in the show and we have the right to state our opinions.




I agree to all your point. Perfectly said.

@TM : Well I would not say its Ragini coz of which we got swasan. Should I remind you of how Ragini was the one who wanted swasan's divorce?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Can I just ask you one thing? Can you like a person who drugged her own sister, tried to kill that sister, then started playing all victim, plotted too much, accused of fake molestation, was ready to send her mother to jail, kidnapped her mother, then plotted to defame her own sister once again, insulted her to no extent, threw her out of the house, insulted the family members like anything and etc.
In front of all this, what good has Ragini done to actually forgive her? To actually start liking her? The problem is that CVs could not redeem her well, for the people to accept. And how can you tell others to quit the show or not. It is their wish if they want to quit, their wish if they want to hate a character, and their wish if they want to express the same. Who are you to stop them?
SwaSan DID NOT happen because of Ragini. I do not give her credits. Sanskaar realised his mistakes and supported Swara, Ragini didn't ask him to. They did not come closer because Ragini forced them too. Yes, they got married because of Ragini, so what?? Ragini is the one who got them divorced. That balances it.
All the actors are gems, but liking a character or not, is entirely a person wish or point of view. We seriously can not ask someone to change their views all of a sudden right?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The only ones who can tell us to stop watching the show are the ones who are paying for the channel subscription. and last time I checked no one is footing anyone else's bills here.

The actor is NOT hated for playing Ragini. had that been the case she should take it as compliment that she did a fabulous job as negative Ragini.
She is questioned for her constant complaining, cribbing and whining on public platforms. her FOE and in response .. Our FOE.

Ragini is NOT hated because she is played by the actor. She is hated because her redemption doesn't make ANY sense for lot many of us.

We owe nothing to any actor or a character that we MUST love them. We want proper story and good moments in exchange of 30 minutes of our lives and giving the show TRPS.

Yeah the show is named Swaragini.. a little question. How many of us are watching it for 'Swaragini'?

We are watching it for either SwaSan or RagLak and can crib, complain and go all out negative if we don't get our OTP and if our favorites are compromised for others.

Apologies that is is not a positive response. But this is a practical response. what people should and shouldn't do.. Let them be judge of that. one can ignore or debate the opposing views; negative or positive.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Banjaaran.


The only ones who can tell us to stop watching the show are the ones who are paying for the channel subscription. and last time I checked no one is footing anyone else's bills here.

The actor is NOT hated for playing Ragini. had that been the case she should take it as compliment that she did a fabulous job as negative Ragini.
She is questioned for her constant complaining, cribbing and whining on public platforms. her FOE and in response .. Our FOE.

Ragini is NOT hated because she is played by the actor. She is hated because her redemption doesn't make ANY sense for lot many of us.

We owe nothing to any actor or a character that we MUST love them. We want proper story and good moments in exchange of 30 minutes of our lives and giving the show TRPS.

Yeah the show is named Swaragini.. a little question. How many of us are watching it for 'Swaragini'?

We are watching it for either SwaSan or RagLak and can crib, complain and go all out negative if we don't get our OTP and if our favorites are compromised for others.

Apologies that is is not a positive response. But this is a practical response. what people should and shouldn't do.. Let them be judge of that. one can ignore or debate the opposing views; negative or positive.


Bang reply... I can't say.. more... Love you more for that...

Because of Ragini swasan happened... When did it happened... I don't know... Or I missed that epi... Where Ragini made swasan..

I'm not a Ragini hater... For your information... Swasan happened on their own... The pure love which they have for each other.. no plotting to get Haq... No criminal activities.. Swara escapedfrom jail to get married to her love... What role did Ragini played here.. She tried her best way to separate them.. creating Bad name for Swara that she is two timer... Please sister.. don't try to dig the past.. it's not good for this forum...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tamihna

So guys it's come to everyone's attention that a lot of hate for Swaragini has occurred but the only reason is because of Ragini'S character. Everyone who is showing this hate really need to stop. I know everyone will be ready to type up a long reply to my post but read before you type. This show started off as a story about 2 sisters who shared the same goal and that was happiness for their parents. Then the show got different actors to portray different characters and that's what happens in any and every good show. People need to accept the fact that things will change and there is no need to hate. Is it really worth it? Your hate won't get you what you want. If you really dislike the show then stop watching it because those who watch the show and start talking nonsense about it are the ones that ruin it for everyone else. I think most of Swaragini fans only watch it for Swasan but that's not what the shows about the only reason Swasan happened was because of Ragini and we all know it so to those who hate Ragini and LOVE Swasan keep in mind who made the ship you love so bloody much. I truly love all the actors who play their characters , the good characters and the bad ones because they all do an incredible job and they've come so far. I hope no one is offended by this post and hopefully this negativity will slowly fade away. Thank you so much for taking your time to read this. I hope I get positive feedback in the comments if you wanna share your opinion.

@blue Ragini tried to make Kav----Kar ship also btw. And that pretty much says that SwaSan are together because they wanted to be not because of Ragini or anyone else.
As a viewer I have a right to express my opinion about the show and the characters like every viewer. Forum is made for such discussion and debate only, of course in a healthy and civilized manner. That doesn't spread any negativity. Nobody can decide for me what I should like or not. Similarly nobody has the right to ask anyone to stop watching the show.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I want to say something about 2 things you pointed!
1. Hating Ragini: I don't see any problem in hating Ragini. Hating a character who did numerous crimes is natural & human tendency! And I'm a human not a goddess nor the other viewers who hate Ragini.
This show name is Swaragini (Which actually either CVs shouldn't have kept as a name as what they did with that bond got ruined OR handle it that way where people could connect with the bond as we did before) but that doesn't mean that we have to forget whatever Ragini did & forgive her! Viewers can't connect with her bcoz of her overnight redemption where she didn't even acknowledge to herself that she did crimes let alone apologizing & asking forgiveness!
I believe forgiveness have to be earned Bt Ragini never even admit that she did wrong! Heck she always justified her doings with some horrendous dialogues!
Sanskaar did few crimes as well & trust me, I & most Sanskaar fans who love Sanskaar beyond imagination also hated him for his doings & even now when we love him unconditionally still don't justify his doings!
Bt the fact is Sanskaar had a justification why he did what he did bcoz he also suffered a heartbeat & agony for long 5 years without any fault of his! Bt he never even tried to justify himself and owned his mistakes and earned his forgiveness! And that's why people can relate with him and love him!
Bt Ragini had no solid reason behind her obsessiveness and those heinous crimes she did and never apologized! Hence people can't forget those crimes & stop hating her! We never got her redemption!
So what's the wrong if people hate her! Just bcoz she suddenly became good don't mean she should be forgiven & be loved!
2. SwaSan happened bcoz of Ragini: Now this is the most ridiculous thing ever! SwaSan didn't happen bcoz of that lady!
It was Sanskaar who felt bad for Swara whenever he saw her crying; it was Sanskaar who felt guilty for doing wrong with a innocent soul - Swara! Not Ragini who was Swara's (So called) sister where Sanskaar was a stranger! Bt it was Sanskaar who saved her from Mohini dyaan where Raginiji asked Mohini to blackmagic Swara! It was Sanskaar who backed off from his revenge and asked Ragini also to back off! Bt ofcourse madam didn't listen!
So it was not Bcoz of Ragini that SwaSan happened! They would have come together anyways! And SwaSan happened bcoz of Swara & Sanskaar!
Maybe Swa-----Lak marriage didn't happen bcoz of Ragini Bt then again whatever Ragini madam did, did for her benefits not for SwaSan to happen!
SO ANYONE EVER TRY TO SAY THAT SWASAN HAPPENED BCOZ OF RAGINIJI, NEVER EVER!
And yes, most people watch bcoz of SwaSan! Then again its human tendency to see & invest their time, money, energy to good things & what they likes!
So till there is no proper Ragini redemption (Which I'm afraid we will ever get to see) & we can forgive Ragini, I will hate her!
And there is nothing wrong people hating her!
And there is nothing to be grateful to Ragini bcoz SwaSan didn't happen bcoz of her!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well i do not want to sound rude but can't help it...
Who are you to ask us to stop watching this show??
Who are you to ask us to stop hating a character in the show whom we clearly hate from the core of our heart??
If you remember that ragini forced swasan to get married then i think you remember it too that she is also the reason behind their divorce so in no way we are indebted to her for our swasan.
I love swasan and watch this show only for swasan. And i hate Ragini and sorry can't help with my hatred for her. I don't think there is any wrong in my hatred for her...she clearly deserves it. She is a criminal who got simply no punishment from her famly and turned into a saint in a blink of an eye. Many can accept her sainthood suddenly but sorry I CAN'T. I can never forgive her for sins and so can never accept or like this swaragini bond.
This show was of a sisterly bond show i know...but this very show has made mockery of that relationship. So now it is not our fault if we hate this particular completely fake behna prem🤢...it is just a kalank nothing else..
So yes my overpowering love for swasan has still hooked me to this show and if this so called positive mahaan ragini's interference spoils my swasan bliss then i will raise my voice..
And if you want to address this as negativity then can't help it sorry...😊
P.s: I want to clear one more point that i have nothing to do with the actress playing ragini...i do not hate her..yeah sometimes may be irritated with her tantrums but i do not hate that actress...

Peace..
Edited by ria.april18 - 9 years ago

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