i disagree with yuvreen - Page 4

Originally posted by: kavmuks

it was important to choose IRIS over Yuvi AT THIS POINT OF TIME.. can Suvreen live her life peacefully .. if IRIS closes down and there as kneed mistake by her and secondly she was already pepper.. unless she gets this guilt out of her or she correct this problem how can she live as a free person...

First of all this choice itself was imbalanced.. ho can one choose between Yuvi and IRIS.. Yuvi is impulsive and more over he has NO work... so he needs Suvi's attention all the time.. and unnecessary keeps bashing maddy ..

CV CV please .. what do you have in mind..

yuvi nevr said to quit iris b4 rescuing it 4m manini..he clearly stated quit iris aftr iris is free 4m maninis take ovr bid..n that suvi sd hv accepted..she hs her own brand name nw as pepper so she can start that..yes she sd save iris clear it to rc n confes abt d truth bt wat is d pt of wrking on in iris?iris half d times cnt evn pay her salary..wats left thr except complications?thr is no end of learning n gaining knowledge n surely rc is nt d only 1 who can teach n mentor suvi..thr r others like rc too in d field..so wats stoping suvi 4m quiting iris?rc did nt favour her by gving her a job..suvi hs d talent he nurtured it..she deserved d job rc gv it..so thr is no need of silly i owe my life to rc 4ever types..yes he helped her pa..bt if in return nw suvi remains tied to him 4evr then it wd mean that she is doing slavery out of moral obligations..n that is no love..gratitude nt any form of love..its just a virtue only..n ppl cnt hv both love n career at same level..u either hv to sacrifice ur family life n excel profesonaly..or remain satisfyd with a career that is nt so time consuming n treasure d family life n moments..no1 can ride on two boats at same time..those who attempt that fall n loose 1 atleast..
suvi is exactly doing that..n yuvi hs just told her clearly that she must value 1 less than d other..here equilibrium cannot b maintained..n suvi chose a company ovr a human being..thats nt acceptable..hunger 4 suces is gud bt so much that u distance urself 4m family n frnds?that cnt b gud..such hunger depicts that d person values self accolades more than conjunctive sharing n caring..thr is a limit to evn limit hunger 4 suces..suvi is crossing that limit too..its nt only yuvi she cnt evn gv time to her parents..is that healthy?wats her social life?zero..just home to office office to home..thats all..so 4 me suvi is wrong this time.if she wants career more than yuvi she ofcourse can..bt then she must nt mek yuvi suffer..she sd then clearly tel she hs no time 4 love she is nt ready 4 any comitment n relationship..if realy thr r ppl like suvreen whose mentality is career 1st love secondary then they sd nt enter into any relationship n play with others like yuvis emotions..
hving said al these i hwevr stick to this also that yuvraj is wrong too bt only d way he approached d situations..d way he handled suvi..he cd hv handled it with more maturity..made her realize her mistakes than throwing her up to meking a choice..then n thr instantly..n so i said I Disagree With Yuvreen..yuvi hs work..he is a model nw..he is nt aimles in life..n suvi is taking yuvraj 4 granted..

anywaz my post is based on idealistic theorems..d 1s i am growing up with..so i do not know d practical feasibilty of these idealisms..perhaps its easy to say than being implemented..moreevr i do not blame d cvs..they hv shown n brot b4 us an issue to think n debate n decide..bt then at d end wen audience wd reject these cvs 4 d sake of trp wd b forced to change track..n 1c again they wd show yuvi wd "realize his mistakes" tho he is nt at fault alone..suvi too is..n who knows if cvs r in benevolent mood they may evn gift d resu fans to cheer n dance with a love triangle..so happy viewing if ur a resu fan..

Yes agreed Yuvi never told to quit iris but quit only after manini headache is resolved... But is she a coward why she will run away from situation when Iris is in terrible mess. Her conscious didn't allow her to give away responsibility and commitment in the name of love. Suvi comes with a mindset that pepper thing is a very wrong move in her career even if she tells rc she doesn't want to continue it because what she fells is only because of pepper there is so much problem occurred in her life. For a girl like Suvi living in a fake name will never allow her conscious. Agreed rc has given a favour but he is the person who have given her first baby step to realise her dream, love for fashion and what she believes there is lot he can learn from his mentor. Love and career both can go together and if you see the Global statistic woman are able to do this because of word support of husband, bf, family and friends... Life of girl can change if you have professive family and bf. Why in the name of love a woman should give her dreams, career whereas she doesn't put an unexceptional demand in front of her husband, bf.. Is Suvi has hunger for success or she want her to dream fulfilled correction by friend and You yourself made a statement that she should choose pepper and what everybody knows I mean Suvi, Yuvi that pepper will give her more success than Iris. Pepper has already made her famous...Step in Suvi shoes wherein he is taking her father burden to be the man in family.. She is working hard and trying her best to maintain a equilibrium and shouldering responsibility. It easy to say that've a you girl not giving time for family whereas her mother is the one who is asking Suvi daughter I am in trouble and mess I need money what she can do get rid away from word responsibility and sit at home let all suffer for daily livelihood. When person loves you he understand he sails along with you to protect from storms in sinking ship rather than grudging and complaining you have no time for me, you are canceling my dinner plans.. I am not important... Do you need a bf just for excitement or fun or the one who make you rise so high in love that who always there for you when you need him the most. What kind of emotion Yuvi has I seriously want to understand... His acts are childlike, he doesn't want to concentrate on career and make a good future of yuvreen. He is not shouldering any family responsibility..love is unconditional.. It doesn't come with choose between the two when both are important for a girl. Yes agreed Yuvi has a bright career in modeling but is he taking it seriously and doing right act whereas Iris is the one who has given him the wings. I know Suvi is at fault but what she wants is Manini fiasco need to cool down and then Yuvi should have made her understand I am nobody fan BUT want a true life partner for Suvi not just the bf types...

Originally posted by: Meghaharshit

Yes agreed Yuvi never told to quit iris but quit only after manini headache is resolved... But is she a coward why she will run away from situation when Iris is in terrible mess. Her conscious didn't allow her to give away responsibility and commitment in the name of love. Suvi comes with a mindset that pepper thing is a very wrong move in her career even if she tells rc she doesn't want to continue it because what she fells is only because of pepper there is so much problem occurred in her life. For a girl like Suvi living in a fake name will never allow her conscious. Agreed rc has given a favour but he is the person who have given her first baby step to realise her dream, love for fashion and what she believes there is lot he can learn from his mentor. Love and career both can go together and if you see the Global statistic woman are able to do this because of word support of husband, bf, family and friends... Life of girl can change if you have professive family and bf. Why in the name of love a woman should give her dreams, career whereas she doesn't put an unexceptional demand in front of her husband, bf.. Is Suvi has hunger for success or she want her to dream fulfilled correction by friend and You yourself made a statement that she should choose pepper and what everybody knows I mean Suvi, Yuvi that pepper will give her more success than Iris. Pepper has already made her famous...Step in Suvi shoes wherein he is taking her father burden to be the man in family.. She is working hard and trying her best to maintain a equilibrium and shouldering responsibility. It easy to say that've a you girl not giving time for family whereas her mother is the one who is asking Suvi daughter I am in trouble and mess I need money what she can do get rid away from word responsibility and sit at home let all suffer for daily livelihood. When person loves you he understand he sails along with you to protect from storms in sinking ship rather than grudging and complaining you have no time for me, you are canceling my dinner plans.. I am not important... Do you need a bf just for excitement or fun or the one who make you rise so high in love that who always there for you when you need him the most. What kind of emotion Yuvi has I seriously want to understand... His acts are childlike, he doesn't want to concentrate on career and make a good future of yuvreen. He is not shouldering any family responsibility..love is unconditional.. It doesn't come with choose between the two when both are important for a girl. Yes agreed Yuvi has a bright career in modeling but is he taking it seriously and doing right act whereas Iris is the one who has given him the wings. I know Suvi is at fault but what she wants is Manini fiasco need to cool down and then Yuvi should have made her understand I am nobody fan BUT want a true life partner for Suvi not just the bf types...

hmm..thats right..i agree with u in this..i hv wrking parents n i hv nevr cin my parents complaining abt time n stuffs..they balance it perfectly n gives me time too..i agree that wrk n love life can b balanced..
bt suvi is unable to balance it..she hs no time 4 yuvi nwdaz..balancing n ignoring nt same..if suvi cd balance i wdnt hv said she is wrong..n yes i also agree with u that at times yuvi fails to understand suvi n misreads d whole situations..so he is wrong..i prefer yuvreen bt am no fan of any1 except d script..wat u pointed out is absolutely right that suvi is d man of d family nw as her pa unemployed..n that so she hs immersed herself in wrk to earn extra..n do d nedful dutys towards her family..i also agree her family needs her more than yuvi does..so she sdnt quit job..bt iris half d times cnt evn clear her salary so i dnt agree that iris is her only option to help her family..preity is nt as much talented as suvi yet she felt d need to move on 4m iris..so cnt suvi do that?i repeatedly say that yuvreen r wrong..nt just suvi nt just yuvi..running away 4m iris doesnt arise at al if she quits it aftr rescuing iris..so it wnt show suvi as weak at all..moreevr ira constantly henpecks her so that cnt b swept under d carpet either..yes i agree ur love sd b understanding u without d need arising to give explanations..justifications..i also confes that i dnt agree with yuvis dinner plans wen wrking 2 earn mony to suport her family more essential 4 suvi n he knows that..bt i hv bin taught life is result of cumulative effects..1st thr ws d kiss nw this iris iris 24hrs so yuvi feels ignored..so he wants her to quit iris..n i do not c that as an absurd demand..if suvi herself nw choses to bliv or realize that yuvis n her thots r nt in d same plane then i bliv she sd honestly speak up n tel yuvi lets break up instead of keeping him hanging n ignoring him every nw n then..i wd respect suvi more if she decides wat she wants 4m life instead of wanting to njoy both d worlds bt failing to serve none..she failed as pepper n put iris to risk wen she lived as yuvis topper..n she failed yuvi wen she chose to bcum designer guggal..clearly she is in no position to njoy both love n wrk..nt at this stage atleast..so she sd tel that to yuvi clearly..nw it wd b upto yuvi to decide if he wants to remain with her n stop demanding or expecting 4m her..or he wants to leave her 4evr..n watevr yuvi decides he sd stick to it..if he choses her then he sd nevr again complain..if he leaves her then atleast he wnt hv 2 face being called immature every alternate day..

Originally posted by: JustMySelf

hmm..thats right..i agree with u in this..i hv wrking parents n i hv nevr cin my parents complaining abt time n stuffs..they balance it perfectly n gives me time too..i agree that wrk n love life can b balanced..
bt suvi is unable to balance it..she hs no time 4 yuvi nwdaz..balancing n ignoring nt same..if suvi cd balance i wdnt hv said she is wrong..n yes i also agree with u that at times yuvi fails to understand suvi n misreads d whole situations..so he is wrong..i prefer yuvreen bt am no fan of any1 except d script..wat u pointed out is absolutely right that suvi is d man of d family nw as her pa unemployed..n that so she hs immersed herself in wrk to earn extra..n do d nedful dutys towards her family..i also agree her family needs her more than yuvi does..so she sdnt quit job..bt iris half d times cnt evn clear her salary so i dnt agree that iris is her only option to help her family..preity is nt as much talented as suvi yet she felt d need to move on 4m iris..so cnt suvi do that?i repeatedly say that yuvreen r wrong..nt just suvi nt just yuvi..running away 4m iris doesnt arise at al if she quits it aftr rescuing iris..so it wnt show suvi as weak at all..moreevr ira constantly henpecks her so that cnt b swept under d carpet either..yes i agree ur love sd b understanding u without d need arising to give explanations..justifications..i also confes that i dnt agree with yuvis dinner plans wen wrking 2 earn mony to suport her family more essential 4 suvi n he knows that..bt i hv bin taught life is result of cumulative effects..1st thr ws d kiss nw this iris iris 24hrs so yuvi feels ignored..so he wants her to quit iris..n i do not c that as an absurd demand..if suvi herself nw choses to bliv or realize that yuvis n her thots r nt in d same plane then i bliv she sd honestly speak up n tel yuvi lets break up instead of keeping him hanging n ignoring him every nw n then..i wd respect suvi more if she decides wat she wants 4m life instead of wanting to njoy both d worlds bt failing to serve none..she failed as pepper n put iris to risk wen she lived as yuvis topper..n she failed yuvi wen she chose to bcum designer guggal..clearly she is in no position to njoy both love n wrk..nt at this stage atleast..so she sd tel that to yuvi clearly..nw it wd b upto yuvi to decide if he wants to remain with her n stop demanding or expecting 4m her..or he wants to leave her 4evr..n watevr yuvi decides he sd stick to it..if he choses her then he sd nevr again complain..if he leaves her then atleast he wnt hv 2 face being called immature every alternate day..

Quitting iris would be the worst decison suvreen would ever take.. She is starting her career.. Not even a yr gone by.. her life is full of turmoil, so many ups n downs.. No boss in the world would be as supportive n respecting towards her like rc.. She would be 10 steps behind if she leaves iris.. Coz no one so soon in the field of fashion keeps u like ur second skin, working so closely on such big projects..the kind of exposure rc is giving her, no other mentor will do that.. Through all her troubles, her financial contraints, her family issues, everything, rc has helped her.. over looking all her mistakes, teaching her through them but standing by her..
Only a foolish person would give up such a wonderful support so early in her career for some over possessibe bf, who just calls himself her bf.. who has no life or career of his own n is just hell bent on making her life miserable..

Come to the real world n bosses like rc, usually ddon't exist.. I was lucky my mentor was just like rc.. Miss him now.. But I haven't come across any guy like yuvraj.. touchwood for that.. Coz no one can dominate or manipulate me n be the driver of my life by calling himself my bf..

N lastly whn u mentioned the way rc treated suvi, he is her boss n not her bf.. he doesn't hv to behave like her bf.. If he was her bf, he wld sacrifice 1000 iris just to be with her.. Like he left his first company for ira to start iris.. He will not ditch u like this..

N lastly there is no guarantee that even after she leaves iris yuvraj will change.. He will tell her to sacrifice something else for him thn.. Or he will leave her.. Rc will never leave suvi but there is no guarantee yuvraj will stick by suvi.. He will demand more all the time n if he doesn't get it, he will leave suvreen at the drop of a hat..

yuvi dsnt hv wrk or no career options dt doesnt means dt suvi vll ditch hm n stick to rc...she cnt only look to her career n stick to iris lyk a slave...in professional lyf career grwth is mre imp den being loyal to ur cmpny as its a sayng be loyal to ur wrk nt to ur organization cz organization keps on changing bt i undrstnd 1st job gives u a platofrm to learn n grow bt dt doesnt means u cnt move ot f it whne tym needed... u hv to concentrate on career growth...n yuvi is nt possesive bt he has seen dt due ti iris suvi hs faced so mch f prob..he cn she hw mch dedicated she is 2wrds iris n rc bt stl evr1 suspected her for being on manini's side dt wt mde hm to say suvi to leave iris once its been saved..ismain koi selfish reasons nhi hai yuvi ka...uski jagah koi dusra ldka hota na to suvi ko tabhi ditch kr diya hota wen he came to knw dt she ksd rc...n luv is all abt suportng...n ur sayng dt yuvi dsnt hs wrk so he needs all d attention cum on dt means u dnt knw d value f relatnshp u only run behnd succesful people lyk rc..bt remember rc ws nt a born superstar he too hs gone thru the struggle perios n becm a famous fashion designer...d same way yuvi too hs a strugling phase knw n kch to quality hai usmain or else irir wud nt hv hired hm as der main model...koi bhi taras kha k kisi ko job nhi deta...n yuvi hs nvr tld suvi to sacrifice nethng infct he hs sacrificed so mcg fr suvi..jismain suvi ki khushi he hs dun dt bt dez days suvi hardly luks into yuvi's hapines...n yuvi hs nvr demanded nethng frm suvi jst wntd her to b happy n spend tym wd hm..i thnk after 9 hrs f job we all frgt abt offce n wnts to njoy our persnl lyf..evn m vry passionate abt my job and my job hs so mch f responsibility dt one mistake cn cause a big blunder fr the cmpny bt i hv alwez kpy my profesionl n persnl lyf separate n its vry esy to balance dt..evn i wrk on sat n sun wn tym needed bt nvr mke my wrk OTT...

What do you think will quitting iris make suvreen happy? Give her the career satisfaction that she is getting here? Will other job not have problems? Will suvreen not be the suvreen she always has been n give her all to it?
Will there be no vamps or opposition in the other job? Will there be no adjustments? Not knowing anyone.. Even boss not as supportive as rc.. Will she be happy?
The answer is NO..
Then why should a girl sacrifice her happiness fr a guy who can't stand by her n cries for not having dinner with him at such a point in her life? Really makes no sense to me..
Iris is a big part of suvreens life.. They are family n u don't leave ur family like this jyst coz its not doing that well.. Infact during such times u put in all u have to make it work.. N thats commitment which yuvraj doesn't understand.. He doesn't know what is commitment. .

Originally posted by: kiran307

Quitting iris would be the worst decison suvreen would ever take.. She is starting her career.. Not even a yr gone by.. her life is full of turmoil, so many ups n downs.. No boss in the world would be as supportive n respecting towards her like rc.. She would be 10 steps behind if she leaves iris.. Coz no one so soon in the field of fashion keeps u like ur second skin, working so closely on such big projects..the kind of exposure rc is giving her, no other mentor will do that.. Through all her troubles, her financial contraints, her family issues, everything, rc has helped her.. over looking all her mistakes, teaching her through them but standing by her..
Only a foolish person would give up such a wonderful support so early in her career for some over possessibe bf, who just calls himself her bf.. who has no life or career of his own n is just hell bent on making her life miserable..

Come to the real world n bosses like rc, usually ddon't exist.. I was lucky my mentor was just like rc.. Miss him now.. But I haven't come across any guy like yuvraj.. touchwood for that.. Coz no one can dominate or manipulate me n be the driver of my life by calling himself my bf..

N lastly whn u mentioned the way rc treated suvi, he is her boss n not her bf.. he doesn't hv to behave like her bf.. If he was her bf, he wld sacrifice 1000 iris just to be with her.. Like he left his first company for ira to start iris.. He will not ditch u like this..

1st thank u 4 making this simple post of mines such a delightful reading n source of entertainment 4 many who r bored like me with nothing much to c on tv 😆

2nd..thank u for making me test my own nerves n patience..i feel i deserve a pat 4m myself 4 maturing so lot that i am surprised by my own maturity..i guess i am ahead of my age by minimum 5yrs atleast?😉

3rd..tel me sum thing new..sum thing that i hv nt heard 4m u already..or sum thing i hv nt taken into considerations wen posting..😊

4th..yuvi is as much imperfect as is suvi..both r in thr learning n growing stage..ppl say grls r more matured than boys r..grls think ovr many times b4 doing 1 thing than boys..if i were suvi n i knew ira loves rc n i saw rc go dwn on his knees n propose marriage to ira..being d virtuous suvreen guggal i wd nevr evr accept rc evn if i break up with yuvraj singh..yuvraj may nt b d perfect man bt that doesnt mean that suvreen guggal wd chose another imperfect man in rc to substitute d so called imperfect yuvi..if i were suvi i wdnt chose a man who gts drunk n sleeps with his best frnd..who knows he wdnt gt drunk sum other day n mek that a habit n excuse to sleep with other women?blame d alcohol d nxt day 4 his maturity?no am nt so liberal like d west that i wd desire a man who hs slept with another woman already knowingly..if d man keeps stuffs like this hidden n i nevr know abt his such activitys then thats diferent..if he cheats on me n i find out later than i sd hv then i wd tek actions according to d need of d hr..
if i were suvi n knowing that my family needs my support more than i need a bf right nw..then i wd either tel yuvraj i am sory i dnt want to b in relationship nw ur free to walk away 4m me..i wd mek yuvi chose between bearing me with my inability to give him my time or letting him decide to stick with me bt with no more unjust demands..
in case he stays bak i already win..if he walks away i am nt responsible..am guilt free..in that case i still wdnt go with rc bt with samar he is a perfect balance n mixture..understanding as wel as mature n moreevr if he hs slept with any woman b4 then its b4 he realized he is in love with suvi..unlike rc who is in love with suvi bt falls in bed with ira evn aftr all such realizations.

am very much exhausted with arguing with u abt all these..yet i want to c wen i ultimately snap till wen i can remain so patient..ur unknowingly helping me test my own weaknes n limits thanks 4 that atleast 😃

I am not saying suvreen should end up with any other guy just coz she breaks up with yuvraj.. Just that she should do what any mature gal at this point would.. I m not advocating resu here but telling why suvreen is correct in what she is doing n yuvraj should just not mk it more difficult fr her.. I wouldnt even comment if ths yuvraj scene wldnt happen.. He just gets on my nerves for being so rude n harsh with a gal he calls his gf.. Really cn u really behave like that with the gal u love the most!!

why u guyzzz hv to debate over yuvi and suvi...