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Did you enjoy that trip to Oz?
The CW asked viewers to sort of
follow the Yellow Brick Road on
Supernatural Season 9 Episode 4 , as
we couldn't help but wonder: Were
the waters for a spinoff being tested?
Here to debate that topic, along with
many others, are Sean McKenna,
Carla Day and Carissa Pavlica of TV
Fanatic, along with Alice from
Winchester Family Business. Join in
the debate below...
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What was your favorite scene from
this Supernatural Season 9 episode?
Carissa: The closing credits. I'm
sorry, but that was one episode I
don't ever want to relive. I was so
disinterested. I adore Felicia Day and
Charlie but there was absolutely
nothing compelling to me about the
OZ story. Did they decide to try their
own version because The Great and
Powerful OZ was such a flop at
theaters?
Alice : This may be completely
shallow, but I just loved seeing
Sam's room. No, it's not spectacular
and it was everything I expected, but
I was thrown back that he had a nice
flat screen in there. I didn't take Sam
to be the watching TV type. Oh, that's
right, he does need a nice big screen
to watch his po*n. Anyway, I just
liked idea of the three getting
together, like a slumber party, and
watching DVDs together and airing
grievances. Friends and families are
fun.
I also loved seeing all the new Men
of Letters rooms, but that's really a
combo of a bunch of scenes and
doesn't count. But really, don't you
picture the guys taking that classic
Thunderbird in the garage for a spin?
Oh wait, I'm picturing me.
Carla : Dean and Sam's discussion
about the Men of Letters being a
home. It was a reminder that Sam
didn't have an easy upbringing. He
never knew his mother, his father
was on the hunt, he never had roots
growing up, and he was pulled out of
college. Even when Dean was in
purgatory, Sam never established a
home. The heart-to-heart was
necessary to jump start Sam's sense
of stability.
Sean : This episode was just OK, and
more things stood out that I had
problems with than I adored. That
said, I loved Mark Sheppard's scenes
with the witch, Sam telling him to
write down more names, and pretty
much.
What did you think of the Oz lore?
Carissa: One or two tidbits were a
teeny bit interesting, but mostly
because Charlie got so excited about
them. Dorothy was unpleasant and
not at all what I would have wanted
her to be like. She was grating and
rather rude, and I couldn't wait for
her to go away. I just didn't expect
her to take Charlie with her.
Alice : I thought it was adventurous,
that's for sure. This is a sci-fi horror
show, so seeing a fantasy like that is
both good and bad. Good, because it
suited Charlie to a tee. Bad because
Sam and Dean looked so awkward in
the middle of all that. I suppose any
fictional tale of adventure can be
twisted into hunter lore, but I'm not
exactly sure it worked 100 percent
here. However, I didn't hate it either.
It was a good try.
Carla : For a standalone episode and
tie-in to the Men of Letters, it worked
well. I loved when Sam and Dean
were embodied by the Wicked Witch.
Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki
did a good job on their Wicked Witch
voice. It was realistic and just a bit
campy. The face-off was well done,
but I overall enjoyed the Oz episode.
Sean : The concept of Oz and all the
lore that connected to the Men of
Letters/Sam and Dean was an
intriguing one. But I just couldn't get
into it. It was overly campy, the witch
wasn't scary, Dorothy was OK, but it
felt like the episode had to cram so
much stuff in because the series
probably won't touch on Oz again.
Sure, the nods to Oz were great and
the flying monkey at the end was
kind of cool, but it never got me
excited enough to where I really
cared.
Would you want to see a spin-off
with Dorothy and Charlie in Oz?
Carissa: Overall, it wouldn't matter to
me because I have no interest in it.
But if it meant Felicia Day would be
tied to a series I didn't want to watch,
then I would have to give it a firm no.
Alice : Not if it follows any type of
"Supernatural" formula. It has to be
totally independent and a brand new
creation. I suppose "Once Upon A
Time" works, and you won't get a
better lead than Felicia Day and the
character of Charlie. I didn't think
Dorothy was exceptional, but we
haven't had the time to get to know
her like Charlie. Right, you want a
real answer. No, but only because
fantasies are not my thing. If
anything, I'd vote for it as a web
series.
Carla : As soon as the episode aired,
I posed that question on Twitter. I'd
be willing to give it a watch and see
what they could do with it. I love the
Charlie character and Felicia Day
could front a new female driven
Supernatural show. I wasn't as fond
of Dorothy though. She was too
rough for me, but she could grow on
me in a new series. I'd rather see
Charlie in our world, but Oz wouldn't
be bad.
Sean : It would be interesting, and
there's certainly a lot to utilize in a
series like that. The campy tone
would have to change as well. I'd be
curious enough to give it a try, but if
it feels anything like this episode, I'd
have to probably pass.
What will happen once Sam finds out
about Ezekiel and Dean's lying?
Carissa: It will be the traditional
brother stand-off. Sam will be angry
because he wanted to die, and Dean
will plead his case about why he
chose to do what he did and they
might fight for a season, but
eventually they will come to realize
their love for each other outweighs
everything else, hit a couch, clink
beers and be brothers again.
Alice : You know, I'm not really sure.
At first I thought Sam would go
ballistic, but I think he's going to find
out in a way where he realizes up
front that he needs that angel inside
of him and vice versa. I'll bet he'll
even try to help Ezekiel, especially if
he figures out that Zeke healed both
Castiel and Charlie and rescued him
from death by demons. However, that
will affect his relationship with Dean.
He's never going to blindly trust his
brother again. Let's just say next
time he's face to face with Death,
he's not going to go with Dean.
Carla : Given the help that Zeke has
given Sam, Dean and their friends, I
think Sam will be okay with it. He'll
likely be irritated at first, but quickly
understand the necessity for secrecy.
The only reason I could see Sam
being upset for an extended period
would be if Zeke betrays the brothers
and ends up causing them harm.
Sean : I hope that at some point Dean
just gets right out in front of the
lying and tells Sam rather than have
Sam found out some other way. I
think Sam will probably be frustrated
but after all they've been through,
understand Dean trying to help his
brother. But I'm still waiting for that
moment where Ezekiel changes his
"good guy" tune...
Can the Men of Letters lair be the
Winchester's home or will it always
be the road for them?
Carissa: I think it can be a home, but
I really liked Sam's explanation about
his reluctance to create a home. I
always thought it was Dean who had
suffered the most as a child, but
clearly they both suffered in very
different ways during their childhood.
I hope it can be a home, because
their heritage is one of Men of
Letters, but it did seem like they
might be setting them up for a big
fall. Ezekiel better not be in on that
fall.
Alice : Absolutely it's home! It's their
legacy, their strongest tie to their
family. Considering how much family
means to these guys, they'll be as
loyal to that place as the Impala.
Mostly. I think they'll also realize that
most hunters have homes, so they
have a place to go to when the hunt
is done. They'll end up liking that.
Besides, that lair is going to be
essential when they film Supernatural
the movie.
Carla : The Men of Letters is a home
for them now. Sam may not have
realized it yet, but his actions show
that he treats it as a home. He's
comfortable and at ease there unlike
he's been anywhere else. The sense
of security, having his own space,
and being with Dean will all warm his
heart to the point he misses it when
he's not home.
Sean : It's become a home and I like
that, especially because they have
been on the road so long. Although,
remember when they had the Road
House that was eventually blown up?
I have a feeling that something is
going to destroy the lair right when
they've truly settled in and then
propel them right back onto the road.
http://www.tvfanatic.com/2013/11/supernatural-round-table-slumber-party/
content:
Did you enjoy that trip to Oz?
The CW asked viewers to sort of
follow the Yellow Brick Road on
Supernatural Season 9 Episode 4 , as
we couldn't help but wonder: Were
the waters for a spinoff being tested?
Here to debate that topic, along with
many others, are Sean McKenna,
Carla Day and Carissa Pavlica of TV
Fanatic, along with Alice from
Winchester Family Business. Join in
the debate below...
------------------------------------
-------
What was your favorite scene from
this Supernatural Season 9 episode?
Carissa: The closing credits. I'm
sorry, but that was one episode I
don't ever want to relive. I was so
disinterested. I adore Felicia Day and
Charlie but there was absolutely
nothing compelling to me about the
OZ story. Did they decide to try their
own version because The Great and
Powerful OZ was such a flop at
theaters?
Alice : This may be completely
shallow, but I just loved seeing
Sam's room. No, it's not spectacular
and it was everything I expected, but
I was thrown back that he had a nice
flat screen in there. I didn't take Sam
to be the watching TV type. Oh, that's
right, he does need a nice big screen
to watch his po*n. Anyway, I just
liked idea of the three getting
together, like a slumber party, and
watching DVDs together and airing
grievances. Friends and families are
fun.
I also loved seeing all the new Men
of Letters rooms, but that's really a
combo of a bunch of scenes and
doesn't count. But really, don't you
picture the guys taking that classic
Thunderbird in the garage for a spin?
Oh wait, I'm picturing me.
Carla : Dean and Sam's discussion
about the Men of Letters being a
home. It was a reminder that Sam
didn't have an easy upbringing. He
never knew his mother, his father
was on the hunt, he never had roots
growing up, and he was pulled out of
college. Even when Dean was in
purgatory, Sam never established a
home. The heart-to-heart was
necessary to jump start Sam's sense
of stability.
Sean : This episode was just OK, and
more things stood out that I had
problems with than I adored. That
said, I loved Mark Sheppard's scenes
with the witch, Sam telling him to
write down more names, and pretty
much.
What did you think of the Oz lore?
Carissa: One or two tidbits were a
teeny bit interesting, but mostly
because Charlie got so excited about
them. Dorothy was unpleasant and
not at all what I would have wanted
her to be like. She was grating and
rather rude, and I couldn't wait for
her to go away. I just didn't expect
her to take Charlie with her.
Alice : I thought it was adventurous,
that's for sure. This is a sci-fi horror
show, so seeing a fantasy like that is
both good and bad. Good, because it
suited Charlie to a tee. Bad because
Sam and Dean looked so awkward in
the middle of all that. I suppose any
fictional tale of adventure can be
twisted into hunter lore, but I'm not
exactly sure it worked 100 percent
here. However, I didn't hate it either.
It was a good try.
Carla : For a standalone episode and
tie-in to the Men of Letters, it worked
well. I loved when Sam and Dean
were embodied by the Wicked Witch.
Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki
did a good job on their Wicked Witch
voice. It was realistic and just a bit
campy. The face-off was well done,
but I overall enjoyed the Oz episode.
Sean : The concept of Oz and all the
lore that connected to the Men of
Letters/Sam and Dean was an
intriguing one. But I just couldn't get
into it. It was overly campy, the witch
wasn't scary, Dorothy was OK, but it
felt like the episode had to cram so
much stuff in because the series
probably won't touch on Oz again.
Sure, the nods to Oz were great and
the flying monkey at the end was
kind of cool, but it never got me
excited enough to where I really
cared.
Would you want to see a spin-off
with Dorothy and Charlie in Oz?
Carissa: Overall, it wouldn't matter to
me because I have no interest in it.
But if it meant Felicia Day would be
tied to a series I didn't want to watch,
then I would have to give it a firm no.
Alice : Not if it follows any type of
"Supernatural" formula. It has to be
totally independent and a brand new
creation. I suppose "Once Upon A
Time" works, and you won't get a
better lead than Felicia Day and the
character of Charlie. I didn't think
Dorothy was exceptional, but we
haven't had the time to get to know
her like Charlie. Right, you want a
real answer. No, but only because
fantasies are not my thing. If
anything, I'd vote for it as a web
series.
Carla : As soon as the episode aired,
I posed that question on Twitter. I'd
be willing to give it a watch and see
what they could do with it. I love the
Charlie character and Felicia Day
could front a new female driven
Supernatural show. I wasn't as fond
of Dorothy though. She was too
rough for me, but she could grow on
me in a new series. I'd rather see
Charlie in our world, but Oz wouldn't
be bad.
Sean : It would be interesting, and
there's certainly a lot to utilize in a
series like that. The campy tone
would have to change as well. I'd be
curious enough to give it a try, but if
it feels anything like this episode, I'd
have to probably pass.
What will happen once Sam finds out
about Ezekiel and Dean's lying?
Carissa: It will be the traditional
brother stand-off. Sam will be angry
because he wanted to die, and Dean
will plead his case about why he
chose to do what he did and they
might fight for a season, but
eventually they will come to realize
their love for each other outweighs
everything else, hit a couch, clink
beers and be brothers again.
Alice : You know, I'm not really sure.
At first I thought Sam would go
ballistic, but I think he's going to find
out in a way where he realizes up
front that he needs that angel inside
of him and vice versa. I'll bet he'll
even try to help Ezekiel, especially if
he figures out that Zeke healed both
Castiel and Charlie and rescued him
from death by demons. However, that
will affect his relationship with Dean.
He's never going to blindly trust his
brother again. Let's just say next
time he's face to face with Death,
he's not going to go with Dean.
Carla : Given the help that Zeke has
given Sam, Dean and their friends, I
think Sam will be okay with it. He'll
likely be irritated at first, but quickly
understand the necessity for secrecy.
The only reason I could see Sam
being upset for an extended period
would be if Zeke betrays the brothers
and ends up causing them harm.
Sean : I hope that at some point Dean
just gets right out in front of the
lying and tells Sam rather than have
Sam found out some other way. I
think Sam will probably be frustrated
but after all they've been through,
understand Dean trying to help his
brother. But I'm still waiting for that
moment where Ezekiel changes his
"good guy" tune...
Can the Men of Letters lair be the
Winchester's home or will it always
be the road for them?
Carissa: I think it can be a home, but
I really liked Sam's explanation about
his reluctance to create a home. I
always thought it was Dean who had
suffered the most as a child, but
clearly they both suffered in very
different ways during their childhood.
I hope it can be a home, because
their heritage is one of Men of
Letters, but it did seem like they
might be setting them up for a big
fall. Ezekiel better not be in on that
fall.
Alice : Absolutely it's home! It's their
legacy, their strongest tie to their
family. Considering how much family
means to these guys, they'll be as
loyal to that place as the Impala.
Mostly. I think they'll also realize that
most hunters have homes, so they
have a place to go to when the hunt
is done. They'll end up liking that.
Besides, that lair is going to be
essential when they film Supernatural
the movie.
Carla : The Men of Letters is a home
for them now. Sam may not have
realized it yet, but his actions show
that he treats it as a home. He's
comfortable and at ease there unlike
he's been anywhere else. The sense
of security, having his own space,
and being with Dean will all warm his
heart to the point he misses it when
he's not home.
Sean : It's become a home and I like
that, especially because they have
been on the road so long. Although,
remember when they had the Road
House that was eventually blown up?
I have a feeling that something is
going to destroy the lair right when
they've truly settled in and then
propel them right back onto the road.
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