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Posted: 6 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: TheBoss

You guys are barking up the wrong tree here. It is obvious the site admins do not care for the safety or security of their user base and continue to condone cyber bullying and harrassment. Instead of writing complaints to deaf ears here i suggest you guys send this link and complain directly to Mumbai police twitter handle. This site is based in Maharashtra so it would be best to contact them. You all have Twitter accounts so go ahead.


https://mobile.twitter.com/MumbaiPolice

Also if anyone in Mumbai then please contact a lawyer so they could send a notice directly to India forums headquarters. I would gladly chip in with PayPal or paytm to cover such legal fees. We could all chip in as well.

PM all your friends to join in and take it up with Mumbai police twitter. It's just a copy paste

Also PM news sites and journalists on times of India, aaj tak and other news sites someone will eventually pick up and take notice. Don't stop. Be the change you wish to be.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: -RD-

I think it would be unfair to ban all newbies from pming as it could lead to legit new members being held at a disadvantage however i do think like post restrictions apply at various warning levels same shud be done for pms but that again is no guarantee against harassment via pms ( harassment this is one of the many cons of social media and the biggest of social platforms have been ineffective in handling them as for cyber laws they are not consistent across the globe and that makes taking legit action difficult and rarely possible)

- Issue of personal information leakage i think a lit members here tend to divulge a lot of details in the heat of the moment only to regret it later on givent the nature of social media platforms the onus is on members to know who to divulge what to given real identities r not verified or known atleast on this platform ) More than the platform given the nature of inconsistent cyber laws and jurisdictions the onus is more on the members/users of social media than the platforms themselves.

Member security is an imp issue for all social media platforms but the options are very limited given the lack on control and how laws are.



Not all will be comfortable with verified profiles and if members block certain members from commenting on their threads etc it in no way guarantees that another thread will not be made to take them and their views on. Also i think IF does have a block person option for the pm service dont know if it works or not !

Yeah Its available but only to those members whom u have blocked now ... how many mids we block ? They come with a new id everytime after making 10 posts its some random user id no use of blocking unless they dont even have a opt to send pm !!
Edited by DeviIGaI - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: shahiltherock



What do you call stalking, as dukhi rukhi too accused newbie like that? Should any newbie ask a kind permission from TM or any person to post their opinion? Or is it rukhi's private home and someone is invading her poor privacy?

Seems, nowdays when girls dont have any other charge for fulfilling their vicious agenda against a male then they start crying stalking and other BS. Rukhi is threatning as if police is in her hand 🤣. Get a life babe.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: NathuPyare

Hello Vijay ji

Please take this issue of harassment by MIDs seriously.

As soon as these MIDS are banned (which mods promptly do when requested) they come up with a new id in minutes and start harassing again only to be reported and banned again and the cycle continues...

In all this continuous cycle old members who are being harassed lose hope of any justice or relief from MIDs.

IP ban is not so effective cos everyone uses VPN these days ..and also otherwise IPs can be changed very easily hence we need to take a different route to tackle this problem.

My suggestions to tackle this problem-

  1. verification of phone number while creating a new account can help solving this problem. members with previous account banned with a certain phone number should not be allowed to make another account with the same phone number... at least within 3 months of getting banned, if not permanently.
  2. Allow users to block certain members from commenting on their posts & threads or sending them PMs.
  3. Blocking a certain member deletes their posts in user's thread.
  4. Prohibit newbies from sending PMs.
I'm pretty sure that taking these measures will help curbing this MIDs harassment problem...if only you can take some measures from your side.

Please Vijay ji listen to our problems and suggestions... and help making this place safe for members who dont want to get threatened, bullied or behaved obscenely with MIDS.

Regards

NathuPyare


Very well written. Hope mods will consider this. And don't take this lightly. The correct and accurate steps are necessary.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: omika23


Very well written. Hope mods will consider this. And don't take this lightly. The correct and accuratesteps are necessary.



You have written really well Nathu, you have explained everything in detail, I am just waiting to see everyone getting justice here
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Posted: 6 years ago
#96
I would also like to add for Mods that members posts are blocked so stalkers can not see where members are posting.
If Removed content vault can be prohibited so can members posts.

Its the least you can do to stop the constant stalking.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#97
I agree with Rukhi, they should not be able to see where people are commenting or else they will follow them everywhere and then start writing comments

Also, not being able to PM and having restrictions in that will make coming on the forum more comfortable for all of the people who have suffered at some point in the forum
Edited by maha786 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: Rukhi


Sneha not just today, its been going on for weeks now.

I gave him the least attention so he started attacking me. Which really isnt an issue for me. I ignore losers like this.

Every thread he goes to on BB forum he causes a problem being vile and nasty which actually proves that he is a bully and a troll.

This person has even gone on Romil AT to attack members what does that tell you.

Then he comes on Jas AT to show his love for KD and DG which is actually harrassment as i dont see either girls intetested in his stupidity.


Now he is saying we have an agenda with newbies, well i am sorry to say its not about a newbie or even about MIDs here. Its about members getting bullied and harrassed and trolled.
The proof is on this thread itself, i dont need to say much more.
He seems very confident in himself. Even after harrassing members. No shame whatsoever.

Plus he is sending me PMs now.


Oh .what a Chu * he is !
I don't know y these ppl find Harassment so funny.
Ya, dats what I told him few pagess back that It is him who is trolling others and very conveniently trying to shift the blame to others . He comes across as Manipulative
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Posted: 6 years ago
#99
since my name is taking here time by time,
its my challange if any one can say i attacked some one as buddha specifically:) show me where i mentioned anyone's name and called him buddha.

where i have friends here i can say buddha/buddhi to any of them jokingly.if anyone thinks out of hundred, she called me buddha,its not my fault.may be that person really thinks he is old thats why takes every thing upon him 😆

and wat abt religion ,where?mods ne kabhi dekha nehi ?i bashed some one or some religion so many times and no mod ever warned me?no moderation? if i did so to anyone,i am ready to apologize just now.

i still not posted here the pm i got.i really want to show it to the ppl here,after getting such dirty pm ,still we are behaving well,we are keeping our calm.but it doesnt mean we will remain this polite,calm everytime:)



Edited by OspraYZod - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: -RD-

I think it would be unfair to ban all newbies from pming as it could lead to legit new members being held at a disadvantage however i do think like post restrictions apply at various warning levels same shud be done for pms but that again is no guarantee against harassment via pms ( harassment this is one of the many cons of social media and the biggest of social platforms have been ineffective in handling them as for cyber laws they are not consistent across the globe and that makes taking legit action difficult and rarely possible)

- Issue of personal information leakage i think a lit members here tend to divulge a lot of details in the heat of the moment only to regret it later on givent the nature of social media platforms the onus is on members to know who to divulge what to given real identities r not verified or known atleast on this platform ) More than the platform given the nature of inconsistent cyber laws and jurisdictions the onus is more on the members/users of social media than the platforms themselves.

Member security is an imp issue for all social media platforms but the options are very limited given the lack on control and how laws are.



Not all will be comfortable with verified profiles and if members block certain members from commenting on their threads etc it in no way guarantees that another thread will not be made to take them and their views on. Also i think IF does have a block person option for the pm service dont know if it works or not !


@red - I agree. For ex. if an old member who has made MIDs or a member who has been banned and is coming again as a newbie, opens a thread where he posts IF members' real pics taken from FB /Twitter (yes that has already happened in bollywood forum) then in that case blocking that user would have no effect because the thread made by that user would still be there even if that member is blocked by a certain user.

BUT we can all agree that even in such a case -

  1. an old member is indeed being harassed for no fault of theirs and ignoring the offender MID will not cease the damage being done.
  2. old members usually do not do such harassment with their original Ids. They make new IDs and harass members as newbies which are actually MIDs of old Existing / Banned members.
  3. these newbies (or actually MIDs) are convinced that no one can do anything to them because the most that can be done is banning them which is pretty much useless cos they'll make another ID in a minute.
So unless a mobile number verification is implemented ATLEAST FOR NEW MEMBERS JOINING IF the repeated harassment of old members will not stop.

at this stage Vijay needs to decide if safety of Old loyal members of India forums is more important to him or the comfort of these trolls who make 100s of IDs within no time to carry on their harassment.

NOTE - I'm not saying that there is a single solution to this problem. This problem needs to be tackled using a variety of measures. Hence in my opinion -

  1. Making it mandatory for AT-LEAST NEW MEMBERS to verify their mobile numbers before opening a new account would prevent them from making new accounts from the same mobile number, once their previous account is banned. Initially the ban period can be kept for 3 months and later increased or made permanent for repeat offenders.This way not only old members will be saved from verifying their accounts, but the problem of new accounts harassing old members will also be tackled. At this stage it is really imperative that mods and Vijay decide what is more important for them - comfort of old loyal members or the comfort of newbies (read MID trolls) who might feel uncomfortable verifying their Mobile number before opening an account. 😳
  2. Blocking of certain users will still be helpful because not all trolls or harassers are newbies. some old members also resort to such things without making another ID. In such case these members can be blocked by a member if they are unnecessarily imposing themselves on him/her.
  3. I do believe that prohibiting Newbies from sending PMs will indeed be helpful atleast until Mobile number verification of newbies is not implemented. Later that PM restriction can be removed.
Edited by NathuPyare - 6 years ago

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