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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer


Hey there, friend...

The initial BD was just a temp set because the show at that time, I think July/Aug had not got an extension and was meant to close in Sept. So why would SLB waste money on a new set, that too for just a month? We all know how lavish and detailed his sets are... The VC haveli, with all the lotus pool etc... Show only got extension when SO came on board, and saas-bahu-naukrani-bewda drama started 😳

There were retaliations from SLB, yes, but only because SP was being too Monster-in-law with him and the script of SC... Tadka nahi hai, masala nahi hai, acchar kaha hai, types 😊

Yes you are right. I remembr now. I wasn't too involved with the forum but remember vaguely.
Btw Saba mumtaz is no longer writing for the show. earlier it was Utkarsh who quit and now she.
She is busy with her new show on life ok...Ek bond ishq



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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: busymommy

Yes you are right. I remembr now. I wasn't too involved with the forum but remember vaguely.
Btw Saba mumtaz is no longer writing for the show. earlier it was Utkarsh who quit and now she.
She is busy with her new show on life ok...Ek bond ishq


True, there is no smoke without fire, the original ph quits, director quits writers quit, and what takes the cake is that the story itself quits

Plenty of smoke IMO.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: busymommy


Hahahah...u guys are all so awesome. I hope he gets to read all of this.

Like really Mayank Gupta...u have a chance with Slb after this interview...
But seriously speaking he's been directing After Arvind Babbal left.

And I think he is talking about the initial BD mansion. Remember the shoddy one before they moved to VC haveli.

And honestly that was a super let down too. I was spoilt after the ethereal Vc haveli ad LN mansion in Dubai. Was very dissappointed with that ugly set and now this makeshift BD mansion.
I wonder y Slb did not create a new set.
Im not supporting MG but i also think there can be no smoke without fire , m sure there must have Been triggers @ SLB front.



@ bold - agreed there is no smoke without fire and SLB's PH could have handled few things better I am sure. I can bet that SP was interfering from the beginning, everyone had a lot at stake here financially, personally, since SLB himself claimed he had no experience with TV and SP was 'helping' him. Its evident from the rapid changes in tracks from the first month itself. Why the panic? Let the story pick up atleast. But TRPs are the only thing that matters to channel even at the cost of quality. After a point SLB had enough and walked out IMHO.

SLB might have already lost interest by the time Pramad-Kumud got married and they had to shoot in Dharmadhikari residence. Sadly, lower TRP might translate to PH barely breaking even which meant less cash flow for sets etc. Besides they had invested heavily on the original sets. Two possible reasons for not investing in a fancy set for Dharmadhikaris.

SLB is not pointing fingers at anyone yet. I am sure he could have said a lot too if he wanted. But Gupta's interview is defamatory. One is somewhat aware for SLB to abandon this project that his team has worked on for over a year, that he and SP probably didnt part on the best of terms.

As for the sets, I cringe when I see the parts of Desai haveli converted to Dharmadhikari house, you can see the original has been painted white, no class and depth.
Edited by Infofan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Arshics


True, there is no smoke without fire, the original ph quits, director quits writers quit, and what takes the cake is that the story itself quits

Plenty of smoke IMO.



🤣

You say it all my friend and you say it best.

Itna bada bhashan likha maine abhi abhi. But as usual you wrapped it up crisply.😆


That ij why, apne charan ko firmly forum mein rakhiye for us.
Edited by Infofan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65
Achar ke baat chale toh
Great invit...topnotch place...gracious hosts...great ambience...beautiful people.. .soulful music...delicious appetizers with expensive wine...then commotion in the kitchen suddenly ushered towards the buffet table...main course...ALOO PURI...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: Infofan



🤣

You say it all my friend and you say it best.

Itna bada bhashan likha maine abhi abhi. But as usual you wrapped it up crisply.😆


That ij why, apne charan ko firmly forum mein rakhiye for us.


WORD!
Bold: Arshi's middle name 😳
Edited by IdiotViewer - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: busymommy

Hahahah...u guys are all so awesome. I hope he gets to read all of this.

Like really Mayank Gupta...u have a chance with Slb after this interview...
But seriously speaking he's been directing After Arvind Babbal left.

And I think he is talking about the initial BD mansion. Remember the shoddy one before they moved to VC haveli.

And honestly that was a super let down too. I was spoilt after the ethereal Vc haveli ad LN mansion in Dubai. Was very dissappointed with that ugly set and now this makeshift BD mansion.
I wonder y Slb did not create a new set.
Im not supporting MG but i also think there can be no smoke without fire , m sure there must have Been triggers @ SLB front

Busymommy-
Think of this like a project...where SP pays the PH in instalments basis shows telecast...
According to grapevine...
Because SLB was not agreeing to SPs demands to turn SC into the TRP aligned crap we are seeing recently, SP tightened the screws by delaying / withholding payments due tp SLB under some pretext or another...
Then SP indicated that it wants to terminate the show by Sep if SLB persists with his vision...
So this now became an acute cash flow problem...imagine the financial crunch if you start missing cash flows which are needed to reimburse expenses incurred for some 90 days of epis...and you are still incurring expenses out of pocket for new epis that you are shooting...
...And then you are told I will shut down the project...
...Meaning if I shut it down you can kiss the 90 days of payments outstanding good-bye...SP may choose not to pay at all...then this case goes into litigation etc. etc..
SLB would have decided then that it is just not worth it...SC was one of his company's projects even though it was dear to his heart...He would also have assumed this sort of blackmail would continue for the entire time the show would run...because he would never change his vision...
The context of what MG is saying is those difficult days when the show had to go on despite SLB bleeding financially...
This extension till Nov is a fig-leaf to save face on both sides...SLB got his dues and left...notice there is no word from SLB on the reasons he left...
Now
- SP has got guys like this MG who will play by SP's rules
- SP has got a TRP friendly show
- The cast would want to continue as long as they can / are comfortable doing their roles...because now the link with the novel has been permanently broken...so this will continue forever with all TRP tricks...I am just waiting for a time-leap to be announced!
- The cast is now having it easy...they get their money due on time...they dont have to try too hard...under SLB the cast must have had to really internalise the characters so as to deliver the subtle expressions required to emote their feelings and context...Now under the current MG direction..its a cakewalk...trot out the standard crying wala expressions and you are done...After SLB they can do this bacchowala khel in their sleep.
- Guys like MG have steady employment
- TRP aunties are happy
- New PH is happy...it got a 2 for 1 deal...IPK2 and SC ...so its revenue doubles overnight..
The only guys lying in the gutter are
- SLB...whose vision is mangled beyond repair ...I can imagine what pain he must be experiencing if he sees the current tracks...despite all his effort and fight he could not save the story he wanted to share being dumbed down...This will be a personal failure...He is a Gujju...He may feel all the more pained that if not for him a venerated Gujju literature classic would not have fallen into the hands of SP to be raped in every epi...Many gujjus are not going to forgive him for sure!
- The early adopters who made SC the show popular
- The story itself
🤢
So yeah there is no smoke without fire...but the fire was lit by SP not by SLB.
This is all a subtle PR exercise to bad-mouth SLB and shift the blame to him..
Edited by hotdogg - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer


Hey there, friend...

The initial BD was just a temp set because the show at that time, I think July/Aug had not got an extension and was meant to close in Sept. So why would SLB waste money on a new set, that too for just a month? We all know how lavish and detailed his sets are... The VC haveli, with all the lotus pool etc... Show only got extension when SO came on board, and saas-bahu-naukrani-bewda drama started 😳

There were retaliations from SLB, yes, but only because SP was being too Monster-in-law with him and the script of SC... Tadka nahi hai, masala nahi hai, acchar kaha hai, types 😊

Ivy-
@Bold - Priceless!...the Nayi Soch formula for TRP success!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Supermommy-
Think of this like a project...where SP pays the PH in instalments basis shows telecast...
According to grapevine...
Because SLB was not agreeing to SPs demands to turn SC into the TRP aligned crap we are seeing recently, SP tightened the screws by delaying / withholding payments due tp SLB under some pretext or another...
Then SP indicated that it wants to terminate the show by Sep if SLB persists with his vision...
So this now became an acute cash flow problem...imagine the financial crunch if you start missing cash flows which are needed to reimburse expenses incurred for some 90 days of epis...and you are still incurring expenses out of pocket for new epis that you are shooting...
...And then you are told I will shut down the project...
...Meaning if I shut it down you can kiss the 90 days of payments outstanding good-bye...SP may choose not to pay at all...then this case goes into litigation etc. etc..
SLB would have decided then that it is just not worth it...SC was one of his company's projects even though it was dear to his heart...He would also have assumed this sort of blackmail would continue for the entire time the show would run...because he would never change his vision...
The context of what MG is saying is those difficult days when the show had to go on despite SLB bleeding financially...
This extension till Nov is a fig-leaf to save face on both sides...SLB got his dues and left...notice there is no word from SLB on the reasons he left...
Now
- SP has got guys like this MG who will play by SP's rules
- SP has got a TRP friendly show
- The cast would want to continue as long as they can / are comfortable doing their roles...because now the link with the novel has been permanently broken...so this will continue forever with all TRP tricks...I am just waiting for a time-leap to be announced!
- The cast is now having it easy...they get their money due on time...they dont have to try too hard...under SLB the cast must have had to really internalise the characters so as to deliver the subtle expressions required to emote their feelings and context...Now under the current MG direction..its a cakewalk...trot out the standard crying wala expressions and you are done...After SLB they can do this bacchowala khel in their sleep.
- Guys like MG have steady employment
- TRP aunties are happy
- New PH is happy...it got a 2 for 1 deal...IPK2 and SC ...so its revenue doubles overnight..
The only guys lying in the gutter are
- SLB...whose vision is mangled beyond repair ...I can imagine what pain he must be experiencing if he sees the current tracks...despite all his effort and fight he could not save the story he wanted to share being dumbed down...This will be a personal failure...He is a Gujju...He may feel all the more pained that if not for him a venerated Gujju literature classic would not have fallen into the hands of SP to be raped in every epi...Many gujjus are not going to forgive him for sure!
- The early adopters who made SC the show popular
- The story itself
🤢
So yeah there is no smoke without fire...but the fire was lit by SP not by SLB.
This is all a subtle PR exercise to bad-mouth SLB and shift the blame to him..



Sir ji, total aapke charan kahan type post. Brilliant.

Except I would not call it subtle.

Feels like old times when we actually had meaningful discussions about the show and characters. Chalo, I shall call it a night now, I am rambling all over the forum😛
Edited by Infofan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: annete

Achar ke baat chale toh
Great invit...topnotch place...gracious hosts...great ambience...beautiful people.. .soulful music...delicious appetizers with expensive wine...then commotion in the kitchen suddenly ushered towards the buffet table...main course...ALOO PURI...

Yes!!!
Just like you say it Anette!
👏

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