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Posted: 15 years ago
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The last scene between Gauri and her mother made no sense. The mother affirms that Gauri has not had the love of a father and brother and what Rudra did left her confused? What does she mean it left her confused? Er, I don't know what confusion there is because a father and brother does NOT kiss a fellow female in the household this way!!! What are the writers suggesting that if these men were drunk it would be OK for them to do that and that all should be forgiven? Writers what on earth are you getting at? Your lines make ZERO sense.
Here is my interpretation of what happened. First and foremost, Rudra mistook Gauri for Pihu. Gauri obviously has (unconsciously) feelings for Rudra, it appears to the viewer at first Gauri is taken back by Rudra's words perhaps thinking those words were meant for her. She's quite clearly further astonished when he comes forward to embrace and kiss her; she doesn't fight back aggressively because part of her is somewhat welcoming it (part of her fancies him). She's upset when she hears him say Pihu's name because at that point she knows what is going on that he's thinking it is Pihu and this affection is not meant for her. It can be pretty heart-breaking as it is double slap in the face. This premise can be supported, when, for a moment, she does look at herself in the mirror after washing her face and touches it reminiscing of what happened in a pensive manner of confusion.
The lines between Gauri and her mother should clearly have suggested that she valued Rudra's friendship because she had never had a father or brother in her life and she welcomed Rudra as a male figure in her life. She was disheartened that in a state of drunkness he had mistaken her for his lover and tried to make advances towards her. But the writers did not say this clearly and made a hodge podge mess instead.
As for forgiveness? That depends on the person and the relationship the person has with the friend who behaves this way and it should be based on two points a) that the person sincerly made the mistake and b) they acknowledge what they did was wrong.
I hate the idea that the writers are indirectly implying that if a father or brother does what Rudra did in a state of drunkardness we should forgive it and let it ago. I've seen one too many cases of sexual abuse where the father or brother has used this to get off and it's quite evident they knew what they were doing.
Second, the fact is that no matter HOW drunk you are (and I speak from experience), you do not make out or got to sleep with someone you don't like or mistake them for someone else!!!! Unless you've got some roofies mixed in with that drink it's pretty tough to not know. O, I don't use or have ever had roofies in my drink(s).
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i agree with what you say. the implications were ridiculous at best, worrying,very worrying at worst. i cannot fathom how he could confuse G and P no matter how intoxicated. it isn't realistic. and G's mom seems to have immense faith in R...almost like she knew him from his childhood...and she tells G to lighten up and forgive him...haha.
yes, G can forgive the man, but there's no need to go any further for now.
actually G's attitude to the whole thing was pretty straight until her mother came and messed it up.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

What are the writers suggesting that if these men were drunk it would be OK for them to do that and that all should be forgiven? Writers what on earth are you getting at? Your lines make ZERO sense.

Very well said ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I am referring to the fathers and brothers who behave in this way towards female members of their family. The writers dialogues are poor in that they equate Rudra with someone like a father or brother to Gauri and if that is the case then NO he cannot be forgiven because in that way we would have to forgive a father or brother for such an act. It was not a well or thought out dialogue as it implies some very wrong things.
They should have really thought of those lines because that's how I have taken them unless you think otherwise...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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did she say that? may be in a light tone ........ to pacify g.... simple people, simple lives , simple thoughts 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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And somehow, considering that they live in a conservative town and amidst such horrid neighbours, esp the males, Gouri's mother allowing her daughter to go to her new male friends' house in the middle of the night, knowing that he drinks, didn't sit well with me.
She,who is against her daughter singing, is fine with this !!
Just my pov.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

The last scene between Gauri and her mother made no sense. The mother affirms that Gauri has not had the love of a father and brother and what Rudra did left her confused? What does she mean it left her confused? Er, I don't know what confusion there is because a father and brother does NOT kiss a fellow female in the household this way!!! What are the writers suggesting that if these men were drunk it would be OK for them to do that and that all should be forgiven? Writers what on earth are you getting at? Your lines make ZERO sense.

Here is my interpretation of what happened. First and foremost, Rudra mistook Gauri for Pihu. Gauri obviously has (unconsciously) feelings for Rudra, it appears to the viewer at first Gauri is taken back by Rudra's words perhaps thinking those words were meant for her. She's quite clearly further astonished when he comes forward to embrace and kiss her; she doesn't fight back aggressively because part of her is somewhat welcoming it (part of her fancies him). She's upset when she hears him say Pihu's name because at that point she knows what is going on that he's thinking it is Pihu and this affection is not meant for her. It can be pretty heart-breaking as it is double slap in the face. This premise can be supported, when, for a moment, she does look at herself in the mirror after washing her face and touches it reminiscing of what happened in a pensive manner of confusion.
The lines between Gauri and her mother should clearly have suggested that she valued Rudra's friendship because she had never had a father or brother in her life and she welcomed Rudra as a male figure in her life. She was disheartened that in a state of drunkness he had mistaken her for his lover and tried to make advances towards her. But the writers did not say this clearly and made a hodge podge mess instead.
As for forgiveness? That depends on the person and the relationship the person has with the friend who behaves this way and it should be based on two points a) that the person sincerly made the mistake and b) they acknowledge what they did was wrong.
I hate the idea that the writers are indirectly implying that if a father or brother does what Rudra did in a state of drunkardness we should forgive it and let it ago. I've seen one too many cases of sexual abuse where the father or brother has used this to get off and it's quite evident they knew what they were doing.
Second, the fact is that no matter HOW drunk you are (and I speak from experience), you do not make out or got to sleep with someone you don't like or mistake them for someone else!!!! Unless you've got some roofies mixed in with that drink it's pretty tough to not know. O, I don't use or have ever had roofies in my drink(s).

I agree with you.Even I have father and a brother but still if any man touches me I will be disgusted and will never be able to forgot the incidence.So having no father or brother doesn't mean that you will get confused that if that incident was wrong or right.This incidence was absolutely wrong in any circumstances.
I agree.first of all drinking is a very bad habit and if you loose your sences because of drinking then you can never be forgiven.Who told you to drink in the first place?You can not blame alcohol for your crimes.
Let us now come to the forgiveness part.As a female and more as a feminist I would have never forgiven that person.Physical harrassment can not be forgiven.If Rudr kissed Pihu in this way I would have still considered it wrong.Because the way he was kissing indicated that he is just trying to use a woman to fulfil his lust.I will never prefer a friend like Rudr who slaps his girlfriend,drinks alcohol and physically abuse a woman.If Gauri forgives him it will mean that Gauri has some feelings towards him which is not aware of.
Yes no matter how drunk you are you will not sleep with a wrong person.I have seen these scenes in many Hindi soaps and i am currently bored with them.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

The last scene between Gauri and her mother made no sense. The mother affirms that Gauri has not had the love of a father and brother and what Rudra did left her confused? What does she mean it left her confused? Er, I don't know what confusion there is because a father and brother does NOT kiss a fellow female in the household this way!!! What are the writers suggesting that if these men were drunk it would be OK for them to do that and that all should be forgiven? Writers what on earth are you getting at? Your lines make ZERO sense.

Here is my interpretation of what happened. First and foremost, Rudra mistook Gauri for Pihu. Gauri obviously has (unconsciously) feelings for Rudra, it appears to the viewer at first Gauri is taken back by Rudra's words perhaps thinking those words were meant for her. She's quite clearly further astonished when he comes forward to embrace and kiss her; she doesn't fight back aggressively because part of her is somewhat welcoming it (part of her fancies him). She's upset when she hears him say Pihu's name because at that point she knows what is going on that he's thinking it is Pihu and this affection is not meant for her. It can be pretty heart-breaking as it is double slap in the face. This premise can be supported, when, for a moment, she does look at herself in the mirror after washing her face and touches it reminiscing of what happened in a pensive manner of confusion.
The lines between Gauri and her mother should clearly have suggested that she valued Rudra's friendship because she had never had a father or brother in her life and she welcomed Rudra as a male figure in her life. She was disheartened that in a state of drunkness he had mistaken her for his lover and tried to make advances towards her. But the writers did not say this clearly and made a hodge podge mess instead.
As for forgiveness? That depends on the person and the relationship the person has with the friend who behaves this way and it should be based on two points a) that the person sincerly made the mistake and b) they acknowledge what they did was wrong.
I hate the idea that the writers are indirectly implying that if a father or brother does what Rudra did in a state of drunkardness we should forgive it and let it ago. I've seen one too many cases of sexual abuse where the father or brother has used this to get off and it's quite evident they knew what they were doing.
Second, the fact is that no matter HOW drunk you are (and I speak from experience), you do not make out or got to sleep with someone you don't like or mistake them for someone else!!!! Unless you've got some roofies mixed in with that drink it's pretty tough to not know. O, I don't use or have ever had roofies in my drink(s).



u are totally right
Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sv06

And somehow, considering that they live in a conservative town and amidst such horrid neighbours, esp the males, Gouri's mother allowing her daughter to go to her new male friends' house in the middle of the night, knowing that he drinks, didn't sit well with me.
She,who is against her daughter singing, is fine with this !!
Just my pov.

finally some1 thinks like me!😳
if her mother is shown to be broad minded then she begging the pandits for proposals / objecting Gauri singing!! doesn't make sense.
in the society in which she lives makes such a big fuss abt ladies singing and here gauri's mother has absoutely no problem she having a rich drunk male frnd!! How much does she know him to blindly trust a stranger!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i also agree with you. That scene also doesn't make sense for me. in that scene they are trying to say if father and brother do like it is ok. I disagree because if they do like that it is not ok i think is really disgusting. So rudra is wrong what he did with gauri. I hope gauri's mom show some angry on rudra for what he did with her daughter.

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