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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: shriyaroxxx

well, i can c dat dis debate is going really well...
great work, guys... πŸ‘ πŸ‘
first of all, no offense to any tia ranveer fans...
now, as far as my reply goes... well, lets look at it this way... tia & ranveer... hmmmmm... how many somewhat old hindi films have we seen in which a rich princess meets a poor guy & they fall madly in love & then things happen... 🀒
but ashi yuvi... they r just so... well, cool
all their superb scenes, their awesome chemistry... the ice cream fight, the woof- woof wala scene... πŸ˜† πŸ˜†
ashi yuvi with their fights & yet their love for each other made things so funny... πŸ˜† πŸ‘
tia & ranveer... well, their love is so mushy- mushy... something that i am not very fond of... 🀒

this debate is only just a clash of opinions... & im waiting for someone to reply...

exactlyy my point..tia ranny were too too setereotypical...smethng we hav always seen from childhood...are whats is dis chemistry...we seen bigger chemistries in d form of shah rukh- kajol...........amitaab rekha...and hundreds and hundreds of more couples...even in d television..dere were kawya anjali......anged kripa...and so so many more..........but what ashi uv had was unique..one of its kinds......dey just defined d youth and daats y dey rocked.............

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: shriyaroxxx

well, i can c dat dis debate is going really well...
great work, guys... πŸ‘ πŸ‘
first of all, no offense to any tia ranveer fans...
now, as far as my reply goes... well, lets look at it this way... tia & ranveer... hmmmmm... how many somewhat old hindi films have we seen in which a rich princess meets a poor guy & they fall madly in love & then things happen... 🀒
but ashi yuvi... they r just so... well, cool
all their superb scenes, their awesome chemistry... the ice cream fight, the woof- woof wala scene... πŸ˜† πŸ˜†
ashi yuvi with their fights & yet their love for each other made things so funny... πŸ˜† πŸ‘
tia & ranveer... well, their love is so mushy- mushy... something that i am not very fond of... 🀒

this debate is only just a clash of opinions... & im waiting for someone to reply...

now, what did u said that tia ranveer love is what,.......mushy mushy,well that was the word,wasn't it?,and u are not fond of that.now if u don't like that kinda love then it's very obvious of you to not to like the couple and it's quite obvious for me to say thatwhat lamina said was like full explanatory,in itself.

and I QUOTE"guys...i feel both the couple are real....when we see either we feel we want something like what they have...or we want to do what they r doing....the reason why we fell that is because we identify with them....TE fans with TR and AY fans with AY...

...and the reason we identify with them...like them is because we see a part of them in us...and it that is true ...then they are true as well....

we all are different...so if u are like AY you will think that AY are real anf TR are dreamy...because your reality is different from TR reality

For a TR fan....TR seems real....because thats what many of the TR fans are like...in their hearts...to them AY will seem unreal...too pratical...to unemotional in their world

but the truth is ...if we look around...we see both kinds of people...close to us...among our friends as well....

just because we dont feel somethings isnt realistic according to us...doesnt mean its not real to someone else right

acc to me both charachters are real...but only the one that you identify with...will touch your heart..

i am a TR fan...the truth is no matter how hard i try...i can never behave the way ashi does....or act the way she does...so to me thats unreal....

to a AY fan in the same way...TR emotional nature will seem unreal

mostly the reason given for TR being unreal is that they are love dovey....well when people are in love...many a times they can be lovey dovey...that doesnt mean they arent real...TR even when they are lovey dovey arent devoid of reality...they know their responsibilities...where it be ranny's responsibility towards his mom...sis or even the skool...just the same way..Tia is aware of her responsibilties towards he dad...she always ensures that she doesnt let him down...when she see Sumeet is loney..she is ready to get him married to Sonia..isnt that mature..isnt that real....just because tia focus on make-up...doesnt take away from the fact that she is aware of the realities around her...be it problems that happened between AY...people like shyla...ppl like latty....

when in love...some people hide their emotions...some people come out in open and express them...that doesnt make it unreal... "unquote.

now this debate can carry for eternity debating on the reality and unreality of the couples.the thing is that as shriya said this debate is a clash of opinions and everybodys opinion has to be different for this debate to hold spice.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: smritisashi

exactlyy my point..tia ranny were too too setereotypical...smethng we hav always seen from childhood...are whats is dis chemistry...we seen bigger chemistries in d form of shah rukh- kajol...........amitaab rekha...and hundreds and hundreds of more couples...even in d television..dere were kawya anjali......anged kripa...and so so many more..........but what ashi uv had was unique..one of its kinds......dey just defined d youth and daats y dey rocked.............

what is cool to you,may not be cool to me.well ,this point of stereotype and monotonity,doesn't stop tia ranveer fans from loving their couple.

if you talk about the monotonity and give examples of bigger chemestries in the industry,then you need to ask a question to yourself,why is that from 50 years we are watching such things and still indian people love to watch such things.they are emotional.they thrive through these emotions.still an indian loves "DDLJ" more than "RDB".although i agree to it that RDB is much more realistic,much more ,relevant,and much more vital as far as society is concerned.and as far as the new age teenagers are concerned.same goes for a\y and t\r.(don't get me wrong ,i don't want to say ashi\yuvi are not emtional)

with no offences to you, you live in u.s ,good for you.but forgive me if i am wrong,i come from a small town in m.p ---JABALPUR which u may not have heard of,but people still like that type of things.tell me why is that after all these so called "big chemestries",that you talked about why is that tia ranveer still found space in so many of the hearts?

times are changing.i agree,i agree that in this age of globalisation(not westernisation) indian television needs to depict the society in a more prudent way.but that doesn't mean tia ranveer are not realistic.

and don't compare them with angad kripa,or kavyanjali,because they are kekta products,and they are crap.tia ranveer are far more realistic.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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as far as this line by line reply is concerned i find it very fascinating.....seeing different colour posts...πŸ˜†...but i don't have this much time to reply line by line i've replied in general to whatever was required.

and nitz (i don't know what is your real name),but i know what you meant by being realistic.i didn't misunderstood your point.and i know what is meant by passionate as well.πŸ˜‰my saying that define passion for yourself,meant that i wanted u all to see that tia ranveer are passionate too.although yuvi-ashi due to their nature get passion to a new level.

well if you don't know me.i'm aditya and really u debate well

so smriti and nitz....no hard feelings.😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditya_rikh

what is cool to you,may not be cool to me.well ,this point of stereotype and monotonity,doesn't stop tia ranveer fans from loving their couple.

if you talk about the monotonity and give examples of bigger chemestries in the industry,then you need to ask a question to yourself,why is that from 50 years we are watching such things and still indian people love to watch such things.they are emotional.they thrive through these emotions.still an indian loves "DDLJ" more than "RDB".although i agree to it that RDB is much more realistic,much more ,relevant,and much more vital as far as society is concerned.and as far as the new age teenagers are concerned.same goes for a\y and t\r.(don't get me wrong ,i don't want to say ashi\yuvi are not emtional)

with no offences to you, you live in u.s ,good for you.but forgive me if i am wrong,i come from a small town in m.p ---JABALPUR which u may not have heard of,but people still like that type of things.tell me why is that after all these so called "big chemestries",that you talked about why is that tia ranveer still found space in so many of the hearts?

times are changing.i agree,i agree that in this age of globalisation(not westernisation) indian television needs to depict the society in a more prudent way.but that doesn't mean tia ranveer are not realistic.

and don't compare them with angad kripa,or kavyanjali,because they are kekta products,and they are crap.tia ranveer are far more realistic.

who says i stay in us.......well i pretty much stay in india.........and d size of d town or d place where u stay does not change opinions does it.......?........and i found tia ranveer no different from d kekta couples.......except probably one thng daat dey didnt marry twice or thrice.........even karan and shweta didnt deny daat deir carechters were not stereotypical.........if u are not able to accept d fact den wid no offence i must say daatits pretty much ur fault......definately ddlj rocked...but d same movie if shown today wld not be a blockbuster hit..coz times hav changed..people want smethng different smethng realistic smethng which has a solid msg to convey...and daats what ashi.uv have done for me at least...........and as far as ashi uv are concerned well for me...dey r way way way above ne ne ne shah-rukh kajol....not coz dey r my fvt couple..but coz u can in no damm way compare dem wid ne one...coz dey so so so very different..............

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditya_rikh

as far as this line by line reply is concerned i find it very fascinating.....seeing different colour posts...πŸ˜†...but i don't have this much time to reply line by line i've replied in general to whatever was required.

and nitz (i don't know what is your real name),but i know what you meant by being realistic.i didn't misunderstood your point.and i know what is meant by passionate as well.πŸ˜‰my saying that define passion for yourself,meant that i wanted u all to see that tia ranveer are passionate too.although yuvi-ashi due to their nature get passion to a new level.

well if you don't know me.i'm aditya and really u debate well

so smriti and nitz....no hard feelings.😊

OBVIOUSLYY...DUDE...NO HARD FEELINGS AGAINST NEONE...ITS A CLASH OF VIEWS..NOTHNG ELSE......

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Posted: 18 years ago
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well , i have pretty much said what i wanted to.now i don't want to go about the same thing round and round.i give way to some new debaters who can take forward this debate to some conclusion.(although i know that this has no end πŸ˜‰ )

it was good debating,and after a long time felt like i have done something important or significant on r.f.now it's for the neutral public to decide. 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago
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hallo πŸ˜›
sooo the talk is abt real n unreal is it..i bliv i myself strted tht topic in the opening pt of this deb8 πŸ˜‰...plz dnt mind bt im not gonna play quoting quoting bcos im too lajee πŸ˜†...will jst type up evrythin i feel abt hw real or unreal evry1 frm the crial is πŸ˜‰
well so far ay fans hv bin saying tht tia wears too much make up so shes unreal..and tr fans sed tht no no she cares fr her frnds so she is real.....well if u ask me its the other way round..bcos she cares abt make up n looks she is real and bcos she cares so mch abt her frnds she is sort of unreal πŸ˜†...w8 ill explain tht in a bit...ill jst examine each of the foursome in increasing order of "reality" shall i πŸ˜›:

ranny:
contrary to wht evry1 says,tht tia is most unreal and ashi is most unreal, i think ranny,by far,is the most unreal of the four πŸ˜•...the reason being is tht hes so darn good...think abt it...hes an extremely loyal n faithful son,brother,friend...agreed he was brought up in an extrmely simple environment,and hes got a deep rooted set of principles frm wich he'll never waver....fine, thts all well n good...but isnt thr even a limit? thr seems 2 b no bad quality in him πŸ˜•...bliv me i thot n thot but cudnt cum up with one single bad thing abt this guy....so isnt thr anything lyk being TOO good? yea hes broken the rules so many times he was willing to do anything to revenge the person he thought was the cause of his dads deth...but still in the whole picture hes one of the most saintly charecters and i find it evr so slightly unnatural..so my rating on the reality scale fr ranny would be 4/10

tia:
here we hv yet another person who is soooo good....wen ppl think of tia they think of the wrds "angel" n "princess" n all...bcos shes extremely particular abt her looks and is daddys little girl..spoilt beyond her wildest dreams and is soo vain to the extent she talks abt herself in thrid person...in the crial all these facts have been overplayed by the storywriter/director/etc etc...thts y we find ppl hu get bugged with this aspect of tia and call it her "fakeness"....bt still thr r loads of ppl hu r vain n spoilt n rich n all tht...so well leave tht for now..tia in reality misses her mum and so befriends sonia..thts the only thing ive found completely and truly real abt her..neway all tr fans argue nonstop tht even though tia puts up this exterior,underneath she is really an extremely gd friend....she is caring,friendly,willing to give ppl a second chance,n is a loyal frnd beyond anything or anyone else...once again weve come to the same point..isnt thr ne sch thing as bein too good? her flaws as sch are nt much..unless u count the "fakeness" mentioned up thr..wich i alredi sed is nt fakeness as sch but jst overplaying on the directors part...n yea ull say tht whts so unreal abt caring fr ur frnds? nuthing at all..bt evn the loyalest of frnds cnt be so caring 24*7...they think of themselves too...so only in this aspect i find it very very VERY slightly unnatural,bt not completely unnatural πŸ˜›...my rating on reality scale will be 6/10 πŸ˜‰

ashi:
yet another charecter whom many ppl say is unreal...not without reason,i admit...bcos she is the other extreme of tia.....absolute rebel...very daring...does wht she thinks is rite....individual....all tht....again it has been overplayed by the director so it seems fake at some points...yet we hv a reason fr it...she was forced to constantly live in the shadow of her famous mum and she hated tht..evry1 expected so mch frm her due to her mum and she hated tht too,and so,naturally,she rebelled as mch as possible and bcam wht she is..so her rebel nature is justified..
tias nature is only justified bcos shes papas lil girl and shes spoilt and all tht..so for one thing i bliv ashis reason fr her rebel nature is more complex and blivable than tias reason fr her pride..sry πŸ˜›
neway bk to ashi....weve looked at her overall nature now well see her flaws...she has quite a few...she is vry rude to mny ppl...she does wht she thinks is rite and will do anythin to achieve wht she wants..sum ppl say this is also too mch bt i disagree...bcos being too nice is unnatural bt being too individual isnt..u mite say im saying this bcos i lyk ashi more..mebbe i am, i
donno..bt still i bliv so..neway ashi may choose the weirdest and vaguest n most impractical ways to show it πŸ˜†..bt at the end of the day her heart is in the right place πŸ˜› she is also willing to do anyhting fr her frnds!!..but yet lookin at the overall picture i can see why tr fans find her unreal...so looking at it as objectively as possible i still rate her above tia with a 6.5/10 πŸ˜›

yuvi:
he is,by far,the realest of the four..sure,he is spoilt n rich and a dude/rockstar n all...bt not to the extent of being unreal..he has been forced to live in the shadow of his dad n 4 brothers so he took refuge in music..n if u notice hes d only one without any particular uniqueness to his language..for eg ranny uses banna and always says hum and aap...tia speaks in third person...ashi uses duh-uh and hey bhaggu....and yuvi dusnt use ne sch word wich is unique only to him...as in dude and sufi are used by evry1 rite..his nature also is one of a guy who is all dude types..he also has his heart in the right place....and weve seen loads of flaws in him...he was prone to drinking once or twice..he has a huge sense of pride due to wich he keeps clashin with ashi n fiting πŸ˜†..he puts up this tuff exterior bt is sumwhat of a softy inside 😳..thts y i lyk him the best among the fourπŸ˜†..ultimately,even though i cnt find the exact stuff to xplain it,yuvi is by far the realest charecter of the lot πŸ˜›....i give him 8/10 πŸ˜‰

ok so now lets examin the couples 😈 [those who were breathing a sigh of relief thinkin my lecture baazi is over..think again πŸ˜†πŸ˜†]
well first things first..both the couples r equally rocking and share gr8 chemistry n all....they r equally passionate in their own ways nd ppl like them as per their own tastes..so once again we hv 2 xamine frm the angle of real n unreal πŸ˜†

well as many ppl hv alredi sed tr are too mch lyk wht is found in b'wood movies...they r sooooooooooooooooo intensely in love tht it gets u highly confused...is it tht possible for a romance lyk dis at college level? mny ppl will say yea it is, they hv themselves seen couples lyk tr in their college....bt seeing succchhhhhh a crius relationship still leaves one skeptical..

one diffrence btwin the 2 cuples is tht ay can be best of frnds,bt tr simply cnt b as frndz...they shud b either in luv or sad and apart frm each other...sure t and r hv done loads of things for each other,not bcos they luved each other, bt bcos they valued each others frndship...bt yet it was bcos of their underlying luv fr each other..wen tia stole rannys money to stop him frm goin bk to sanganer,it was bcos she was worried fr him and cared fr him n dint wanna lose his frndship...bt still she was also thinkin of herself at the same time..and wen questioned she sed she was only doing it fr the sake of remix...whereas tht time wen ashi helped uv get his guitar back...i kno it was bcos she was guilty abt the id-swapping thing.. bt still it was also bcos she understood hw mch he luved his music..as a frnd..i kno ull cum up with loads more examples y tr can b frnds n all...but i still bliv tht at the end of d day even their frndship is still only their love fr each othr..and as for ay,the whole beauty of their relationship is tht theyre the best of frnds but are still in luv with each other..

yet another difference between dem is how dey behave wen they r apart...wen apart t and r rmmbr each other lyk evry 5 minutes and either cry or jst feel sad..ay also hv rmmbrd each other bt its nt lyk they sat and brooded over it..they were able to move on in the true sense of it..tr also moved on but still were very bitter abt their failed relationship..wen ay moved on they were also bitter but sooner or later they were back to their mock-hate relationship...and wen it came to dating others...yuvi [my sweetheart flirt of the first order πŸ˜³πŸ˜†] as usual went arnd flirting with evry girl πŸ˜†....ashi didnt flinch frm eyeing othr guys...this is wht i feel is an acceptable college romance..however madly in luv 2 ppl mite b,wen they r broken up they dont think twice abt havin other flings,even if they miss each other terribly,they shud b able to move on..true,tr also dated others, but they did it with the idea of making the othr jlus...mebbe tia truly lyked arjun and ranny truly lyked reva....but when tia n ranny saw each other gettin jlus it only fuelled dem on to see more of arjun n reva,[atleast tia did ive frgtten most of the ranny reva track πŸ˜•] proving they were njoying makin the other jlus...and its also true tht the second time tr broke up tia was openly heartbroken and she was tearful...but on sonias advice she decided to be strong....one of the few times ive appreciated her πŸ˜›...and even then she had 2 force herself to be strong and forget ranny n all...so she was still thinkin of him half d tym...

overall, i can see y tr fans find ay unreal and vice versa fr ay fans...its a tv serial,they have to doll it up to suit the audience tastes πŸ˜† so ultimately ay n tr are two complete EXTREMES, n i lyk ay more...my post may not say it but im not trying to point out tht tr are fully unreal...in fact if tr are unreal then ay most defnitly are also unreal...but im jst trying to say tht i find ay more real than tr πŸ˜›....and going back to my trusty[atleast on behalf of ay fans πŸ˜†] reality scale πŸ˜†....i give tr 7/10 and ay 8/10 πŸ˜›πŸ˜›
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alrite now im out-debated πŸ˜†...whoever is replying to my post pleez dont expect me to reply immediately 😭 i sat n took hrs to rite this post insted of studying fr me preboards πŸ˜† u gotta appreciate he effort this took atleast πŸ˜‰...cya all later πŸ˜†
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Posted: 18 years ago
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phew.......well that has to be appreciated πŸ˜›
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditya_rikh

what is cool to you,may not be cool to me.well ,this point of stereotype and monotonity,doesn't stop tia ranveer fans from loving their couple.

if you talk about the monotonity and give examples of bigger chemestries in the industry,then you need to ask a question to yourself,why is that from 50 years we are watching such things and still indian people love to watch such things.they are emotional.they thrive through these emotions.still an indian loves "DDLJ" more than "RDB".although i agree to it that RDB is much more realistic,much more ,relevant,and much more vital as far as society is concerned.and as far as the new age teenagers are concerned.same goes for a\y and t\r.(don't get me wrong ,i don't want to say ashi\yuvi are not emtional)

with no offences to you, you live in u.s ,good for you.but forgive me if i am wrong,i come from a small town in m.p ---JABALPUR which u may not have heard of,but people still like that type of things.tell me why is that after all these so called "big chemestries",that you talked about why is that tia ranveer still found space in so many of the hearts?

times are changing.i agree,i agree that in this age of globalisation(not westernisation) indian television needs to depict the society in a more prudent way.but that doesn't mean tia ranveer are not realistic.

and don't compare them with angad kripa,or kavyanjali,because they are kekta products,and they are crap.tia ranveer are far more realistic.

adi... i know im moving away from d point here... but dont say that indians love DDLJ more than RDB... dont

RDB is so much better than DDLJ... so different... the same way as ashi yuvi r so different from tia ranny...

& RDB has its points... which of the two movies was INdia's entry to the Oscars... plus, RDB has Siddharth😳 who is wayyyy better than SRK...

ok, now i know im realy moving away frm the ptπŸ˜†...

but neway, my point is... tr like DDLJ r so pathetically boring, whereas ay r so unique, so different, so cool... the same way as RDB😊

Edited by shriyaroxxx - 18 years ago

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